Air conditioning

[whoami]

p1stonhead said:

We got a 5kw split unit installed into our life conversion a couple of weeks ago. It's been amazing this week!

Do you mind sharing how much the installation cost was?

[p1stonhead]

whoami said:

p1stonhead said:

We got a 5kw split unit installed into our life conversion a couple of weeks ago. It's been amazing this week!

Do you mind sharing how much the installation cost was?

It was mates rates and I paid £1700 all in.

I went for a low wall unit as I think it's a bit more subtle for our room rather than one stuck up high on the wall. It does heating and cooling from the top of the unit oscillating as normal units do and bottom of the unit across the floor which I quite like.

Looks like this;

[whoami]

Thanks.

[drewklonky]

lee_fr200 said:

That's quite a good idea, thanks

Just make sure your loft hatch is big enough for the indoor units . you can also make it a multi so you only have one out door condenser. You with also need to budget for a big enough power supply to be installed .

[lee_fr200]

I'm budgeting between 5-10k

I've booked an appointment with a company to come have a chat

[mfmman]

guindilias said:

Alucidnation said:

Is that a fairly recent thing then?

I seem to remember seeing them before but god knows where!

The last ones I did, the pipes weren't charged and the air had to be bled out at the outdoor unit.

Fairly recent, yep - you used to have a man with a vacuum pump take out the air (contaminated with fgases). Now everything in a quick connect version is pre charged, so no need for it.

It's really an old idea that seems to have come back in, pre-charged lines existed when I started on the tools in 1985 but were often leaky at the joints. I guess they are more relevant now to avoid costs for the DIY installer. Downside is that they (presumably, not seen them) come in a small range of fixed lengths so you end up with un-needed loops/bends etc in the pipework unless you strike lucky and a standard length is exactly correct

[NorthDave]

I'd be using blinds to keep the sunlight out as a first port of call. My company installs home automation systems and we regularly regulate heat in a room by opening and closing blinds rather than bringing on air conditioning - the savings can be huge and it is environmentally friendly too.

Obviously AC is 100% necessary in the likes of Australia but I think blind controls and fans to move air are all that should be required in the UK.

[p1stonhead]

NorthDave said:

I'd be using blinds to keep the sunlight out as a first port of call. My company installs home automation systems and we regularly regulate heat in a room by opening and closing blinds rather than bringing on air conditioning - the savings can be huge and it is environmentally friendly too.

Obviously AC is 100% necessary in the likes of Australia but I think blind controls and fans to move air are all that should be required in the UK.

Depends on the house! Mine would never come close to being comfortable with just blinds (I have blackout blinds)

[GetCarter]

p1stonhead said:

NorthDave said:

I'd be using blinds to keep the sunlight out as a first port of call. My company installs home automation systems and we regularly regulate heat in a room by opening and closing blinds rather than bringing on air conditioning - the savings can be huge and it is environmentally friendly too.

Obviously AC is 100% necessary in the likes of Australia but I think blind controls and fans to move air are all that should be required in the UK.

Depends on the house! Mine would never come close to being comfortable with just blinds (I have blackout blinds)

Nor mine. I can't open windows in summer due to midges, and the house is so well insulated, if you turn on the oven the house heats up quickly and retains that heat!

[Welshbeef]

GetCarter said:

Nor mine. I can't open windows in summer due to midges, and the house is so well insulated, if you turn on the oven the house heats up quickly and retains that heat!

Waking up with bed sheets stuck to you... yuck

[GetCarter]

Welshbeef said:

GetCarter said:

Nor mine. I can't open windows in summer due to midges, and the house is so well insulated, if you turn on the oven the house heats up quickly and retains that heat!

Waking up with bed sheets stuck to you... yuck

It was worth the £10k installation fee just to avoid that!

[Alucidnation]

GetCarter said:

p1stonhead said:

NorthDave said:

I'd be using blinds to keep the sunlight out as a first port of call. My company installs home automation systems and we regularly regulate heat in a room by opening and closing blinds rather than bringing on air conditioning - the savings can be huge and it is environmentally friendly too.

Obviously AC is 100% necessary in the likes of Australia but I think blind controls and fans to move air are all that should be required in the UK.

Depends on the house! Mine would never come close to being comfortable with just blinds (I have blackout blinds)

Nor mine. I can't open windows in summer due to midges, and the house is so well insulated, if you turn on the oven the house heats up quickly and retains that heat!

You have a state of the art house that you love to keep showing everyone, and yet, you didn't insulate it properly when you built it?

And even then, if your oven is heating the house as well as the food, it's either cheap or broken.

[GetCarter]

Alucidnation said:

GetCarter said:

p1stonhead said:

NorthDave said:

I'd be using blinds to keep the sunlight out as a first port of call. My company installs home automation systems and we regularly regulate heat in a room by opening and closing blinds rather than bringing on air conditioning - the savings can be huge and it is environmentally friendly too.

Obviously AC is 100% necessary in the likes of Australia but I think blind controls and fans to move air are all that should be required in the UK.

Depends on the house! Mine would never come close to being comfortable with just blinds (I have blackout blinds)

Nor mine. I can't open windows in summer due to midges, and the house is so well insulated, if you turn on the oven the house heats up quickly and retains that heat!

You have a state of the art house that you love to keep showing everyone, and yet, you didn't insulate it properly when you built it?

And even then, if your oven is heating the house as well as the food, it's either cheap or broken.

Wow. I think you must be confusing me with someone else.

My house is insulated properly, which is why it holds the heat in. Fairly simple to understand I would have thought. It's SO well insulated that people alone moving about increase the ambient temperature to over 20C, on a hot day without air-con it can get to 28C.

We like the internal temp to be 18C, so Air-con does that for us.

HTH

[hairyben]

Sheepshanks said:

Having a ceiling fan, if the height allowed, to swirl the cool air around the room would help a lot too. Indeed we've found when travelling the US that often the fans they have there are enough on their own.

Without wanting to be one of the internet cliches who says something different to what the op asked, I'd suggest anyone at least tries a ceiling fan before committing $$$ to a/c.

The ones we have are westinghouse, very quiet and smooth and gives a much more gentle but fuller breeze than pedastal type fans. Even in stuffy london suburbs I've yet to even plug in the mobile a/c unit in 6 years and might see if it works and stuff it on ebay thinking about it. Suprised theyre not more popular tbh.