I need to sabotage a bid.

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p1stonhead

25,616 posts

168 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Where can one have a nosy at this house? whistle

951TSE

600 posts

158 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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shep1001 said:
Where did you get the moose head thing on the wall? Mrs Shep' wants one!
Couple on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Paper-Maker-Decoration-Ca...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/LARGE-Animal-Construction...

there seems to be a whole range on there.

ali_kat

31,995 posts

222 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Love it!!

Good luck x

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Where can one have a nosy at this house? whistle
If you open Google image search, and drag one of the bottom two pictures onto it you'll find the page they originally come from.


Does seem a slightly odd one to me, looks much more like an abandoned redevelopment than a normal probate sale. You'd spend a while unpicking the work that's already there & finding out how good it really is.

moorx

3,550 posts

115 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Where can one have a nosy at this house? whistle
From the other thread:

Harry Flashman said:
Just put up for sale in our road (and I absolutely love our road). I want it - because it is so interesting, with such great potential (and in and out driveway).

Going to see it tomorrow and convince the Lady F that the house we have just finished renovating (hopefully worth £1.15-£1.2m) should be sold for this lovely old thing. No loft needed, nor plumbing or electrics, so I reckon I could have it done to a decent standard for £100k (our 2800 square foot full renovation including loft, digging out floors, all services/utilities and plenty of structural steelwork cost £200k).

£85k in stamp duty though - OUCH!

But it's such an interesting house, and at 3300 square feet, just about big enough to make me stop hankering to leave London.

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/43903244?...


Edited by Harry Flashman on Friday 26th May 11:06

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

117 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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TBH, it does look a bit odd. It does look as if a developer has done a lot of the structural work and looks ready for bathrooms (no pics, so guessing it does have any) and kitchen (again no pics, so guessing it does not have one). The fresh white paint and no carpets and tiles also is a clue. At this stage I would say that someone was getting it ready to sell on (old people don't usually go for white paint) and either got bored, divorced or ran out of money for it. But yes probably about 100k to make it liveable as a home. Also back of the house looks a bit strange or is that just me?

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

117 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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fesuvious said:
Given the number of 'interesting' and downright brilliant posts you've made over the years...

Here's another option.

Exchange contracts on the one you want. £50k deposit, £100k if your balls are big enough.

Meet the seller. Find him/her and explain you're happy to exchange contracts within 48 hours. Completion 3 months hence. Offer that you understand clearly if you miss completion they keep the deposit.

Find a good solicitor who could make this happen. I know one.

Point out to vendor they cannot lose. Guaranteed no gazundering by a developer, price locked in. And, if you default they can still sell to a developer but will clear chunky tens of thousands for almost nothing.

You then wait 4 weeks with EA marketing.In meantime collate / pay for all relevant info buyercould want. Book structural survey, wood and all others (£5k liability to you) Have these arranged for week6.

If after 4 weeks no sale, you're off the WBAH if you have to.

First however enquire on bridging costs so you know your overlap if needed.

You seem like you have some nous.

That, with front, and you'll make it work. Go find, then knock the door of the seller, big grin, bunch flowers, and a no-lose offer for them.
Good plan that man.

Harry Flashman

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19,402 posts

243 months

Tuesday 6th June 2017
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Owners were disabled, and they were converting it to be disabled friendly - hence the lift shaft at the back and full plumbing installed in most rooms. Carer was to live in loft suite.

She died suddenly, her husband very shortly after: pretty sad actually - her brother is selling it.

AC43

11,509 posts

209 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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Was wondering what that lift shaft was.

Also was wondering where your £200k budget was coming from but now it makes sense given the amount of work that'd already been done.


AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

117 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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Harry Flashman said:
Owners were disabled, and they were converting it to be disabled friendly - hence the lift shaft at the back and full plumbing installed in most rooms. Carer was to live in loft suite.

She died suddenly, her husband very shortly after: pretty sad actually - her brother is selling it.
That makes more sense. Any progress OP?

Harry Flashman

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19,402 posts

243 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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951TSE said:
shep1001 said:
Where did you get the moose head thing on the wall? Mrs Shep' wants one!
Couple on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Paper-Maker-Decoration-Ca...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/LARGE-Animal-Construction...

there seems to be a whole range on there.
Thanks for researching - it was actually a gift...

Harry Flashman

Original Poster:

19,402 posts

243 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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Jonesy23 said:
If you open Google image search, and drag one of the bottom two pictures onto it you'll find the page they originally come from.


Does seem a slightly odd one to me, looks much more like an abandoned redevelopment than a normal probate sale. You'd spend a while unpicking the work that's already there & finding out how good it really is.
Definitely true. The weird lift shaft is not going to be cheap to undo - it has structural steel everywhere.

p1stonhead

25,616 posts

168 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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Harry Flashman said:
Jonesy23 said:
If you open Google image search, and drag one of the bottom two pictures onto it you'll find the page they originally come from.


Does seem a slightly odd one to me, looks much more like an abandoned redevelopment than a normal probate sale. You'd spend a while unpicking the work that's already there & finding out how good it really is.
Definitely true. The weird lift shaft is not going to be cheap to undo - it has structural steel everywhere.
But presumably only to hold up itself so shouldnt be that much of an issue in regards to removing it from the rest of the house.

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

117 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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Harry Flashman said:
Jonesy23 said:
If you open Google image search, and drag one of the bottom two pictures onto it you'll find the page they originally come from.


Does seem a slightly odd one to me, looks much more like an abandoned redevelopment than a normal probate sale. You'd spend a while unpicking the work that's already there & finding out how good it really is.
Definitely true. The weird lift shaft is not going to be cheap to undo - it has structural steel everywhere.
I would be tempted to put the lift in and covert into three large, quality flats.

Harry Flashman

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243 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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Won't get permission on our street - been tried. They are turning it into one of those zones where you cannot convert houses to flats, only the other way around. There are a few of those around here. Quite a few of the bigger houses on our street have been reconverted to family homes from flats.

ali_kat

31,995 posts

222 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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But if you want it as a forever home, having the lift at the back of the house will be useful for your kids to have carers come in & look after you when you're in your dotage wink

Muncher

12,219 posts

250 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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For what it's worth I'd install a lift too.

Harry Flashman

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19,402 posts

243 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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Good idea for the future, perhaps. The problem is they have half done it - completing involves a lot of expense and knocking the back of the house out, more steelwork and the lift itself. And then changing the internal layout of the house a bit, which has not yet been done.

So either you live with that ugly structure, throw six figures at finishing it, or throw money at removing it.

To be honest with you, EA called and people have begun bidding over asking on it. Developers have dropped out as I'm guessing they now see no profit, so a mix of people in chains needing a mortgage, and people chain free but still needing a mortgage - no cash offers any more. I suspect that we'll be out soon too.

Muncher

12,219 posts

250 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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Or do all of the prep work to make it ready for a lift and have it as a full height atrium...

M3ax

1,291 posts

213 months

Wednesday 7th June 2017
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Maybe a massive fan can be installed at the bottom so you can have your own weightlessness chamber?