Toylander build thread!
Discussion
anonymous said:
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Haha yes, but funnily enough the large fence post was fairly unscathed anyway.Joking aside it is actually insured. There's a firm that does insurance for model traction engines and they cover Toylanders too. When we go to car shows/steam fairs etc I don't want a bill for him for driving into a person or scratching a valuable classic car! It was quite amusing filling in the form with the name and age of the main driver! Also insured against theft...a sad reality. Some utter despicable pond life scum of a sub-human stole one of these from the Peterborough Land Rover show last year. How someone could do that to a child, especially when their Dad probably spent as many hours building it as I did, is beyond me.
Oh no! His first crash!
I am sure you'll do a good job in sorting that quickly. Are there any upgrades left to do that could be done whilst doing the repair?
I picked mine up last week, fitted it in the back of my Range and drove it all the way back from Kidderminster to Surrey. Absolutely delighted with it and cant wait for my son to uncover it on Christmas Day!
I have had to hide it in the garage in front of another car all covered up, but he spends so much time out there playing in his Ferrari and has been asking whats under the covers!
- I think I am going to have to move it to a friends workshop if I am going to keep the secret until Christmas (although I am dying to give it to him now)
I am thinking though that based on your photo above it might be better for my son to continue to perfect his driving skills in the plastic Ferrari before he gets his hands on it!
His Ferrari has already ended up in a ditch once, I dont fancy him doing it in the Landy!
When I picked the Landy up from the previous owner I asked him how long the batteries last and he said that HE AND his son drove it for 4-5 miles!? I am staggered but also very excited about seeing his face and being able to go on long walks whilst he drives alongside us and if I get tired, he can walk and I can drive it instead! :haha:
I am sure you'll do a good job in sorting that quickly. Are there any upgrades left to do that could be done whilst doing the repair?
I picked mine up last week, fitted it in the back of my Range and drove it all the way back from Kidderminster to Surrey. Absolutely delighted with it and cant wait for my son to uncover it on Christmas Day!
I have had to hide it in the garage in front of another car all covered up, but he spends so much time out there playing in his Ferrari and has been asking whats under the covers!
- I think I am going to have to move it to a friends workshop if I am going to keep the secret until Christmas (although I am dying to give it to him now)I am thinking though that based on your photo above it might be better for my son to continue to perfect his driving skills in the plastic Ferrari before he gets his hands on it!
His Ferrari has already ended up in a ditch once, I dont fancy him doing it in the Landy!
When I picked the Landy up from the previous owner I asked him how long the batteries last and he said that HE AND his son drove it for 4-5 miles!? I am staggered but also very excited about seeing his face and being able to go on long walks whilst he drives alongside us and if I get tired, he can walk and I can drive it instead! :haha:
Yep, that mileage is probably right. Mine is mobility scooter powered, and they wouldn't be any good if they only did a mile. The batteries (which are big heavy AGMs) last for absolutely ages. When we go to Land Rover shows with it the expectation is that he will be driving it pretty much all day.
When i was a kid, looking through dads 4x4 magazines I spotted the toylander ad, after what seemed like a long time, my dad and granddad had finished it to a point of being able to give it its first test drive. I can still remember that day back in 1990!
I dont know how many miles i covered, but it went around the country with us to every 4x4 trial.
When at home, I hitched up the 8 foot long trailer dad made, me and my mate would then drive the digger up the ramps after loading up gravel and spend most of the day filling potholes in the farms tracks for pocket money.
Rolled it a couple of times, also flatened the battery a good half an hour walk away. (got a CB radio fitted after that one as we had them in the tractors)
By the time i was 7, I could J turn, and more importantly, reverse a drawbar trailer.
I retreived it from the parents barn a few years ago, it made it as far as my garage and was thinking something along the lines of a 2 stroke engine and some mountain bike 4 pot discs.
But it turns out my best mate has just had a baby boy, and im also now a great uncle, so im planning to get it working for when they visit or go to steam rallies.
I dont know how many miles i covered, but it went around the country with us to every 4x4 trial.
When at home, I hitched up the 8 foot long trailer dad made, me and my mate would then drive the digger up the ramps after loading up gravel and spend most of the day filling potholes in the farms tracks for pocket money.
Rolled it a couple of times, also flatened the battery a good half an hour walk away. (got a CB radio fitted after that one as we had them in the tractors)
By the time i was 7, I could J turn, and more importantly, reverse a drawbar trailer.
I retreived it from the parents barn a few years ago, it made it as far as my garage and was thinking something along the lines of a 2 stroke engine and some mountain bike 4 pot discs.
But it turns out my best mate has just had a baby boy, and im also now a great uncle, so im planning to get it working for when they visit or go to steam rallies.
OFORBES said:
Oh no! His first crash!
I am sure you'll do a good job in sorting that quickly. Are there any upgrades left to do that could be done whilst doing the repair?
I picked mine up last week, fitted it in the back of my Range and drove it all the way back from Kidderminster to Surrey. Absolutely delighted with it and cant wait for my son to uncover it on Christmas Day!
I have had to hide it in the garage in front of another car all covered up, but he spends so much time out there playing in his Ferrari and has been asking whats under the covers! - I think I am going to have to move it to a friends workshop if I am going to keep the secret until Christmas (although I am dying to give it to him now)
I am thinking though that based on your photo above it might be better for my son to continue to perfect his driving skills in the plastic Ferrari before he gets his hands on it!
His Ferrari has already ended up in a ditch once, I dont fancy him doing it in the Landy!
When I picked the Landy up from the previous owner I asked him how long the batteries last and he said that HE AND his son drove it for 4-5 miles!? I am staggered but also very excited about seeing his face and being able to go on long walks whilst he drives alongside us and if I get tired, he can walk and I can drive it instead! :haha:
Lol at the Forbes LaFerrari I am sure you'll do a good job in sorting that quickly. Are there any upgrades left to do that could be done whilst doing the repair?
I picked mine up last week, fitted it in the back of my Range and drove it all the way back from Kidderminster to Surrey. Absolutely delighted with it and cant wait for my son to uncover it on Christmas Day!
I have had to hide it in the garage in front of another car all covered up, but he spends so much time out there playing in his Ferrari and has been asking whats under the covers!
- I think I am going to have to move it to a friends workshop if I am going to keep the secret until Christmas (although I am dying to give it to him now)I am thinking though that based on your photo above it might be better for my son to continue to perfect his driving skills in the plastic Ferrari before he gets his hands on it!
His Ferrari has already ended up in a ditch once, I dont fancy him doing it in the Landy!
When I picked the Landy up from the previous owner I asked him how long the batteries last and he said that HE AND his son drove it for 4-5 miles!? I am staggered but also very excited about seeing his face and being able to go on long walks whilst he drives alongside us and if I get tired, he can walk and I can drive it instead! :haha:
Am I losing the plot or was there another Toylander thread on PH?
I might be going nuts but I'm sure the OP of that one set himself on fire or something similarly ridiculous and a few forum members at the time chipped in to help him out with the build of one of these??
In any case, 10 out of 10 dad points to the OP of this topic, bet your kids love it.
I might be going nuts but I'm sure the OP of that one set himself on fire or something similarly ridiculous and a few forum members at the time chipped in to help him out with the build of one of these??
In any case, 10 out of 10 dad points to the OP of this topic, bet your kids love it.
OzzyR1 said:
Am I losing the plot or was there another Toylander thread on PH?
I might be going nuts but I'm sure the OP of that one set himself on fire or something similarly ridiculous and a few forum members at the time chipped in to help him out with the build of one of these??
In any case, 10 out of 10 dad points to the OP of this topic, bet your kids love it.
Emsman https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...I might be going nuts but I'm sure the OP of that one set himself on fire or something similarly ridiculous and a few forum members at the time chipped in to help him out with the build of one of these??
In any case, 10 out of 10 dad points to the OP of this topic, bet your kids love it.
Hi seen your build on this thread it's nice!
I'm taking on one myself and wondered if you would be kind enough to help me out a little....
Regards darren
quote=Hard-Drive]Been a bit slow recently due to this happening on the full sized one. Blown head gasket now fixed...must have been going slightly for as long as I've had her as magically now we have more power, less smoke, and no more oil leaks!
Anyway, back to the little one. I wanted to improve on the fairly pants Toylander design and use the stub axles from the mobility scooter. Here they are, with a sleeve I got turned up to make the axle longer and to go from 15mm OD to 1" to suit the bigger wheels. Bar and angle ready to make other bits...
Drilling the central axle pivot in my high precision German pillar drill (...it's from Aldi). Axle is a swing axle, like a tractor...
Finished piece ready to go into new axle beam...
Welding it all together...
Making new track rods. Of course, one end had to be left hand threaded which threw me a bit...
Axle on the bench...
And then on the vehicle...
And today we had "roll out", with it sat on it's wheels and steering for the first time...
Got some "flex" (axle articulation) too!
Back into the workshop, and I chopped the ends off the old mobility scooter transaxle, where the old scooter wheels went straight onto, and fitted the gears to take the chain drive down to the back axle...
...and lastly test fitted the motor/transaxle in place. Now I can work out where the chains need to go, and cut the axle spacers on the rear axle to the right length, and weld the lower gears in place.
It really does feel like it's starting to come together now. Next thing is brakes, and an initial test fit of the scooter wiring harness to make sure it all moves properly, before then putting some slightly more bespoke wiring together.
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I'm taking on one myself and wondered if you would be kind enough to help me out a little....
Regards darren
quote=Hard-Drive]Been a bit slow recently due to this happening on the full sized one. Blown head gasket now fixed...must have been going slightly for as long as I've had her as magically now we have more power, less smoke, and no more oil leaks!
Anyway, back to the little one. I wanted to improve on the fairly pants Toylander design and use the stub axles from the mobility scooter. Here they are, with a sleeve I got turned up to make the axle longer and to go from 15mm OD to 1" to suit the bigger wheels. Bar and angle ready to make other bits...
Drilling the central axle pivot in my high precision German pillar drill (...it's from Aldi). Axle is a swing axle, like a tractor...
Finished piece ready to go into new axle beam...
Welding it all together...
Making new track rods. Of course, one end had to be left hand threaded which threw me a bit...
Axle on the bench...
And then on the vehicle...
And today we had "roll out", with it sat on it's wheels and steering for the first time...
Got some "flex" (axle articulation) too!
Back into the workshop, and I chopped the ends off the old mobility scooter transaxle, where the old scooter wheels went straight onto, and fitted the gears to take the chain drive down to the back axle...
...and lastly test fitted the motor/transaxle in place. Now I can work out where the chains need to go, and cut the axle spacers on the rear axle to the right length, and weld the lower gears in place.
It really does feel like it's starting to come together now. Next thing is brakes, and an initial test fit of the scooter wiring harness to make sure it all moves properly, before then putting some slightly more bespoke wiring together.
Edited by Hard-Drive on Wednesday 28th August 09:25
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Arthurgeorge said:
What wheels did you use...
Do you think it could be possible to extend and use the drive shafts off the scooter rather than having a chain.
Thanks
Not now he had chopped them off! Presumably geared to increase controllability at low speed?Do you think it could be possible to extend and use the drive shafts off the scooter rather than having a chain.
Thanks
Looks an ace build. Are you using the motor controller from the mobility scooter as well?
Daniel
Arthurgeorge said:
What wheels did you use...
Do you think it could be possible to extend and use the drive shafts off the scooter rather than having a chain.
Thanks
Sorry, I'd not seen your question until now.Do you think it could be possible to extend and use the drive shafts off the scooter rather than having a chain.
Thanks
The wheels are fairly standard wheelbarrow wheels, obviously in steel not plastic. I put a piece of ally pipe through the wheel to act as a mandel, and then welded some more steel tube onto the wheelbarrow wheel to extend it, and then welded the drive sprocket onto that. I then knocked the ally tube out and fitted it all to the main axle. If you do this, be very careful and slow welding the sprocket on so the heat doesn't get to it and distort it too much.
I would advise against extending the scooter transaxle and directly bolting the wheels onto it...the wheels are way bigger than scooter wheels and the gearing will be all wrong. You could of course do what some builders do and just stick with the scooter wheels in which case it's fine, however you've probably spotted I do have a bit of an eye for scale detail and for me this was simply never an option!!
I just wanted firstly to congratulate you on the series 2 TL build - amazing; and your build story
I am really at your first page, with the skeleton of a TL1 which I am salvaging and a scooter (similar to yours - a shoprider deluxe)
Having read your build - I am now weeping with my head in my lap at the potential complexity balanced with my lack of mechanical and electrical skills!
I’m going to end up with an original dove grey series 1, but without much reference do not aim to have the same detail and looking to finish before the children go to university!
I hope you that you will not mind in assisting me a little bit of knowledge as I go through this. Such as the size of the gearing you ended up with for the drive and the axle, did you order the gearing from toylander? And chains? Did you put chain guards on? And the brake is that a toylander brake? Sorry.... I probably have many more questions but really hope you can help! Cheers Miles
I am really at your first page, with the skeleton of a TL1 which I am salvaging and a scooter (similar to yours - a shoprider deluxe)
Having read your build - I am now weeping with my head in my lap at the potential complexity balanced with my lack of mechanical and electrical skills!
I’m going to end up with an original dove grey series 1, but without much reference do not aim to have the same detail and looking to finish before the children go to university!
I hope you that you will not mind in assisting me a little bit of knowledge as I go through this. Such as the size of the gearing you ended up with for the drive and the axle, did you order the gearing from toylander? And chains? Did you put chain guards on? And the brake is that a toylander brake? Sorry.... I probably have many more questions but really hope you can help! Cheers Miles
I would also be interested if anyone has bought appropriate wheels from somewhere other than RLT. I’ve got one of theirs (ordered the spare), and it seems to be a wheelbarrow wheel with a trailer tyre on it. To buy a similar thing seems to cost the same money when you add it all together, or near enough that is isn’t worth the bother, when the quality of the RLT ones seems good.
I’m at the stage where I have a sheet of ply covered with pencil plans. I’ve nearly done all of them, with decent accuracy and space efficiency, but how neatly I can cut them out remains to be seen...
I’d like to go with the ‘factory’ drive set up (I.e. not butcher a scooter) just to make it as much like the manual. It’s a pricey way to do it though. I’m hoping high school/uni electronics and an electric bike speed controller from Amazon will save a bit of money. It might be false economy though. Has anyone done it this way?
I’m at the stage where I have a sheet of ply covered with pencil plans. I’ve nearly done all of them, with decent accuracy and space efficiency, but how neatly I can cut them out remains to be seen...
I’d like to go with the ‘factory’ drive set up (I.e. not butcher a scooter) just to make it as much like the manual. It’s a pricey way to do it though. I’m hoping high school/uni electronics and an electric bike speed controller from Amazon will save a bit of money. It might be false economy though. Has anyone done it this way?
Bumping an old thread, but I’m about 75% through the build of a series 3 to mirror my own. My boy is 4 and very excited to have his own. It’s based in a 24v Batricar mobility scooter. It hauls 18 stone of me at 8mph, is 2wd with a dif, and with 2x55Ah batteries it should keep going for a while.
Looking nice! What wheels have you used on yours?
I wouldn’t like to put a percentage on how far through I am with mine. I started putting plans to wood during lockdown #1, and have got as far as having some nicely finished ply pieces that are battened and ready for assembly.
I bought an electric wheelchair recently, so now have some motors, batteries, a speed controller, front/rear lamps and indicators. The wheels are about 50mm smaller in diameter than TL’s, so some gearing will probably be necessary. Having got the thing home, my concern is that the motors are a fair bit bigger than TL’s, so fitting and alignment may be a bit of a struggle.
I don’t fancy the idea of my 4yr old doing 6mph in a heavy wooden box much, never mind 8mph!
I wouldn’t like to put a percentage on how far through I am with mine. I started putting plans to wood during lockdown #1, and have got as far as having some nicely finished ply pieces that are battened and ready for assembly.
I bought an electric wheelchair recently, so now have some motors, batteries, a speed controller, front/rear lamps and indicators. The wheels are about 50mm smaller in diameter than TL’s, so some gearing will probably be necessary. Having got the thing home, my concern is that the motors are a fair bit bigger than TL’s, so fitting and alignment may be a bit of a struggle.
I don’t fancy the idea of my 4yr old doing 6mph in a heavy wooden box much, never mind 8mph!
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