11m x 4m outdoor swimming pool in 3 weeks (with paving)
Discussion
sbk1972 said:
To the guys with pools, what sort of in pool lighting do you guys have ? At the moment I have a couple of Certikin 300w 12v lamps located at either ends. Im thinking of `jazzing` it up a little and installing some LEDs. Just wonder what you guys use.
SBK
I have an 23,000 gallon in-ground marcite lined backyard pool at my home in Central Florida. The lighting is a single, bright white LED, mounted in the deep-end wall. I recently had the pool re-surfaced and tiled and did consider adding more submerged lighting, but decided against it, because 1) adding wiring and light fittings to an existing pool shell is expensive and 2) it gives a somewhat 'scattered' lighting effect and I wanted something more uniform and tranquil. It is relatively easy to swap the bulb for a different color or even a multi-colored one, but I quite like it how it is.SBK
JulianPH said:
sbk1972 said:
To the guys with pools, what sort of in pool lighting do you guys have ? At the moment I have a couple of Certikin 300w 12v lamps located at either ends. Im thinking of `jazzing` it up a little and installing some LEDs. Just wonder what you guys use.
SBK
HelloSBK
I have LED lighting, so we can change the colour as we we fit.
The reality is that we never do and keep it on the traditional aquamarine setting.
Dr Interceptor is your man here. He has forgotten more than I will ever remember!
We had an LED white pool light fitted.. in Portugal... if my precovid memory serves me correctly
In place of existing halogen - uses same cabling, same transformer etc but it's only 15 or 30 watts or something tiny - man maths - cheaper! Looked easy to do - just pushes into existing backbox with three adjustable rubber 'feet' to wedge it in. Hardest bit was making water resistant connnections into the existing cabling - heat shrink, soldering etc. Ours is Hayward - Certikin should do similar easy-swap kits.Whatcha really need is a colour changing palm tree. Yes, I know... the council thread is that way ->
Hi all.
Well Ive gone Ebay cheap and brough these !! :-)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4X-10LED-RGB-Submersibl...
£13 pounds of wonderfulness ! No doubt they will be turd but worth a giggle.
Ive brought a new certikin light bulb too. Next time I plan to have both light gunts replaced with LED replacements.
Well Ive gone Ebay cheap and brough these !! :-)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4X-10LED-RGB-Submersibl...
£13 pounds of wonderfulness ! No doubt they will be turd but worth a giggle.
Ive brought a new certikin light bulb too. Next time I plan to have both light gunts replaced with LED replacements.
JulianPH said:
That is looking stunning! Our pool build has been postponed until next year as all of our local installers are booked up until October.
What are those potted plants around your pool? They are beautiful and my wife asked me to ask
Harry Flashman said:
This thread has made me want a pool at my house on London.
Insanity, but Lady F said yes, yesterday...
I would like something indoor/outdoor to add to the complexity (but would like winter use). I suspect that this would be financially ruinous.
For any pool in the UK, you have to ask whether you are going to use it or not, what you are going to use it for and how easy it will be to use.Insanity, but Lady F said yes, yesterday...
I would like something indoor/outdoor to add to the complexity (but would like winter use). I suspect that this would be financially ruinous.
building a pool - especially in London - that is big enough for meaningful exercise is difficult and very expensive and counter currents are expensive and horrible. On that basis, you have to ask yourself whether you'll get enough use out of it to keep cool on hot days, have pool parties around and to entertain children in to make it worthwhile.
Once you've nailed that, you need to heat it and possibly enclose it. Good heating and a proper, reasonable looking pool enclosure are, again, very expensive.
Finally, it has to be located somewhere where it is really easy to use and maintain or you wont bother. As an example of this, when I was a kid, we had a small, cheaply installed outdoor pool immediately adjacent to our patio It was in a SW corner of the garden. It was less than 10 metres from the boot room door and overlooked from the kitchen and the nursery so that we could go in it as children and still have an eye kept on us. It was also right next to the part of the garden where my parents entertained in the summer. It got loads of use.
As we grew up, after 20 years it got a bit old and tatty and the heating needed overhauling. My parents filled it in and spent a fortune building a much bigger, better pool in an specially designed pool house that my brother, an architectural student, designed for his dissertation. It looks splendid, its big enough for proper exercise, its always warm, its got its own changing room but - and here's the rub- its 400 metres away from the house, tucked away in an old walled garden. Consequently it hardly ever gets used
That is all extremely good advice. Frankly one option we are looking at is a cheap, small portable pool for the kids when they are a bit older.
One of the issues is more that our back garden is east facing, so does not get a great deal of sun after about 3pm. We are not really sun worshippers, but it still means that lot of the appeal of an outdoor pool is lost.
I really only really want a plunge pool, rather than sometging for exercise. One of my favourite things to do is sit in water and read a book (on my waterproof kindle, not paper - that never goes well). The way that the house is laid out means that losing the ground floor study would see an indoor pool with an exercise jet, with an outdoor section in the sunniest bit of the patio. Pool would be a bit of an odd size at 2m x 4m indoors, but you would have a bit more flexibility outdoors, where you would want the shallow section for kids and dips.
But adding a pool to a London property is a bit of a weird one - it could damage saleability rather than help, as they are expensive to maintain and can cause problems (especially indoors), and we (as you know GT3!) are not in prime London.
On the other hand, an above ground pool with heat exchanger for summer at the bottom of the garden probably makes the most sense initially. My friends have one in Devon and use it all the time. Ugly, but not exactly a big outlay or permanent.
This wouldn't be until children are older anyway, so have plenty of time to think about it.
One of the issues is more that our back garden is east facing, so does not get a great deal of sun after about 3pm. We are not really sun worshippers, but it still means that lot of the appeal of an outdoor pool is lost.
I really only really want a plunge pool, rather than sometging for exercise. One of my favourite things to do is sit in water and read a book (on my waterproof kindle, not paper - that never goes well). The way that the house is laid out means that losing the ground floor study would see an indoor pool with an exercise jet, with an outdoor section in the sunniest bit of the patio. Pool would be a bit of an odd size at 2m x 4m indoors, but you would have a bit more flexibility outdoors, where you would want the shallow section for kids and dips.
But adding a pool to a London property is a bit of a weird one - it could damage saleability rather than help, as they are expensive to maintain and can cause problems (especially indoors), and we (as you know GT3!) are not in prime London.
On the other hand, an above ground pool with heat exchanger for summer at the bottom of the garden probably makes the most sense initially. My friends have one in Devon and use it all the time. Ugly, but not exactly a big outlay or permanent.
This wouldn't be until children are older anyway, so have plenty of time to think about it.
Edited by Harry Flashman on Monday 10th August 11:53
If you do have a pool in London, and indoors, then swim schools will rent it for over £100 an hour. Best to be indoors, with some form of changing room, separate entrance to pool i.e. not going through property.
I used to rent mine out (£30 p/h in sussex) and it paid for the upkeep of the pool. However I got tired of seeing odds and sods walking past my dinning room window when WFH so cancelled it.
SBK
I used to rent mine out (£30 p/h in sussex) and it paid for the upkeep of the pool. However I got tired of seeing odds and sods walking past my dinning room window when WFH so cancelled it.
SBK
sbk1972 said:
If you do have a pool in London, and indoors, then swim schools will rent it for over £100 an hour. Best to be indoors, with some form of changing room, separate entrance to pool i.e. not going through property.
I used to rent mine out (£30 p/h in sussex) and it paid for the upkeep of the pool. However I got tired of seeing odds and sods walking past my dinning room window when WFH so cancelled it.
SBK
Given the current climate for liability on many fronts i wouldn't have a bar of that. Some school kid says you looked at them funny or worse. They crack their head on your property. No thanks.I used to rent mine out (£30 p/h in sussex) and it paid for the upkeep of the pool. However I got tired of seeing odds and sods walking past my dinning room window when WFH so cancelled it.
SBK
Hi,
You have to take out a certain type of insurance to cover that. The swim school has its own insurance to cover issues / mistakes around anything lesson wise but you need insurance to cover buildings, facilities, parking etc. i think I paid around £580.
Definately need to do the maths on renting out a pool but with the right demand it can generate a nice little business. I used to let my wife run it, I did the maintenace around pumps / heating / water chemicals but she did books, insurance and day to day running.
Need to have your neighbours on board or they complain and the council is called, like I suffered. Again that can be sorted with simple planning or some certificates. The thing that kicks off issues is parking as that is what starts issues. Most of the swimmers at my pool were mums and kids, and the level of parking / driving was awful, no worse, shocking and at times amazing to watch :-)
Going up a few replies. I love that pool bar. I hope you have a fridge with beers, better still a remote / keg and lager on draft. If so then Sir... I salute you :-)
You have to take out a certain type of insurance to cover that. The swim school has its own insurance to cover issues / mistakes around anything lesson wise but you need insurance to cover buildings, facilities, parking etc. i think I paid around £580.
Definately need to do the maths on renting out a pool but with the right demand it can generate a nice little business. I used to let my wife run it, I did the maintenace around pumps / heating / water chemicals but she did books, insurance and day to day running.
Need to have your neighbours on board or they complain and the council is called, like I suffered. Again that can be sorted with simple planning or some certificates. The thing that kicks off issues is parking as that is what starts issues. Most of the swimmers at my pool were mums and kids, and the level of parking / driving was awful, no worse, shocking and at times amazing to watch :-)
Going up a few replies. I love that pool bar. I hope you have a fridge with beers, better still a remote / keg and lager on draft. If so then Sir... I salute you :-)
ClaphamGT3 said:
Here's the rub- its 400 metres away from the house, tucked away in an old walled garden. Consequently it hardly ever gets used
Gotcha, try not to put it 400m from the house.Not sure what the people 3 streets away would think if I put the kids paddling pool in their garden anyway.
JulianPH said:
Just thought I would post some update pics:
Julian -I really like this and would like to plaguerise your idea/design and incorporate it into my lanai, which is attached to the back of my house and providing access to my pool deck.
I wondered if you'd be kind enough to provide some pics that show the construction from the other side of the bar? I can handle a chopsaw and a nail gun, but design isn't one of my strong points.
I think the environment you have created at your home is quite wonderful.
triggerhappy21 said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Here's the rub- its 400 metres away from the house, tucked away in an old walled garden. Consequently it hardly ever gets used
Gotcha, try not to put it 400m from the house.Not sure what the people 3 streets away would think if I put the kids paddling pool in their garden anyway.
Matt Harper said:
Julian -
I really like this and would like to plaguerise your idea/design and incorporate it into my lanai, which is attached to the back of my house and providing access to my pool deck.
I wondered if you'd be kind enough to provide some pics that show the construction from the other side of the bar? I can handle a chopsaw and a nail gun, but design isn't one of my strong points.
I think the environment you have created at your home is quite wonderful.
Have you got the requisite broken fork?I really like this and would like to plaguerise your idea/design and incorporate it into my lanai, which is attached to the back of my house and providing access to my pool deck.
I wondered if you'd be kind enough to provide some pics that show the construction from the other side of the bar? I can handle a chopsaw and a nail gun, but design isn't one of my strong points.
I think the environment you have created at your home is quite wonderful.
If not, all bets are off
Matt Harper said:
mikeiow said:
Have you got the requisite broken fork?
If not, all bets are off
I'm ashamed to say no, sadly. However, I do have a broken shovel - would that substitute, in a pinch?If not, all bets are off
Excuse the plant debris, we just had a monumental downpour here...
mikeiow said:
Matt Harper said:
mikeiow said:
Have you got the requisite broken fork?
If not, all bets are off
I'm ashamed to say no, sadly. However, I do have a broken shovel - would that substitute, in a pinch?If not, all bets are off
Excuse the plant debris, we just had a monumental downpour here...
mikeiow said:
Matt Harper said:
mikeiow said:
Have you got the requisite broken fork?
If not, all bets are off
I'm ashamed to say no, sadly. However, I do have a broken shovel - would that substitute, in a pinch?If not, all bets are off
Excuse the plant debris, we just had a monumental downpour here...
triggerhappy21 said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Here's the rub- its 400 metres away from the house, tucked away in an old walled garden. Consequently it hardly ever gets used
Gotcha, try not to put it 400m from the house.Not sure what the people 3 streets away would think if I put the kids paddling pool in their garden anyway.
That was my first thought, atleast when you lease it out they can park in the next village.
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