Kitchen extension cost?
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dickymint said:
We have three bedrooms 
No kids 
Ok so your turning a 3 bed 2 toilet house into a 1 toilet house. No kids Love the queueing up for a number 1 of number 2. Or if someone stinks to the loo or hard luck you have to sit there smelling their s
t. No kids ..... yet. Be it from love making adoption or as a god parent delivering on the hardest of promises bringing up your godchild.
Welshbeef said:
Ok so your turning a 3 bed 2 toilet house into a 1 toilet house.
Love the queueing up for a number 1 of number 2. Or if someone stinks to the loo or hard luck you have to sit there smelling their st.
No kids ..... yet. Be it from love making adoption or as a god parent delivering on the hardest of promises bringing up your godchild.
As I've said, the wc will remain for at least the short term and will once again be usable - however I'm not about to live my life around a highly unlikely chain of events Love the queueing up for a number 1 of number 2. Or if someone stinks to the loo or hard luck you have to sit there smelling their s
t. No kids ..... yet. Be it from love making adoption or as a god parent delivering on the hardest of promises bringing up your godchild.
I like to cross bridges when I come to them.As it happens my Mother in law and Her partner moved in with us last Sunday. They have sold their house in Newcastle and are looking for somewhere to rent near us. He is quite fragile (has to be helped into our bath for a shower even. Luckily stairs are not a problem for him. So far it's working out pretty well as we are up and early and they don't get up until much later. They'll be out within weeks :fingerscrossed:
I’d move the WC towards the outer wall by about 200mm, put the basin under the stairs and extend the front to rear wall supporting the stairs to close off the WC. That’s the least of your problems though.
With your (or the ‘arch’s’) plan you’ll end up with a dining room the wrong side of the lounge, a tiny office intruding onto other areas (glass doors to an office – is it always immaculately tidy?) and a kitchen split into two by French doors and an island.
How about: putting the office in the top two thirds of the dining room to include the window, put the WC in the lower third with a front to rear wall to divide the two, then you can have a front to rear kitchen from the word ‘desk’ and ‘cloak’ to the rear of the house and put the dining room behind the island, next to the kitchen (looks like most of the time the table will be against the party wall so the lounge will have great views of the garden. To go the whole hog put a big (305UC??) beam in side to side and lose that bit of wall at the end of the island; then you can knock off a third the width of the island and move it towards the kitchen 500mm.
I’d also have a door at the end of the stairs so that you don’t get a gale blowing from the front door to the French windows.
With your (or the ‘arch’s’) plan you’ll end up with a dining room the wrong side of the lounge, a tiny office intruding onto other areas (glass doors to an office – is it always immaculately tidy?) and a kitchen split into two by French doors and an island.
How about: putting the office in the top two thirds of the dining room to include the window, put the WC in the lower third with a front to rear wall to divide the two, then you can have a front to rear kitchen from the word ‘desk’ and ‘cloak’ to the rear of the house and put the dining room behind the island, next to the kitchen (looks like most of the time the table will be against the party wall so the lounge will have great views of the garden. To go the whole hog put a big (305UC??) beam in side to side and lose that bit of wall at the end of the island; then you can knock off a third the width of the island and move it towards the kitchen 500mm.
I’d also have a door at the end of the stairs so that you don’t get a gale blowing from the front door to the French windows.
Agree about the downstairs WC. Upstairs should your private space when you're entertaining, so a downstairs WC is a must. You will use your house differently following the refurb, so just because you didn't before, doesn't mean you won't now.
I agree that the currently shown living room should be the dining room (or better still the kitchen) and the currently shown dining room, the living room. This current living room should also be a room not open plan into the hallway as it's neither one thing or another.
I didn't quite follow TA14's comments, but amending the cloaks to a wc and having a divide between there and the hall (glass door?) as he suggests I think would be a good idea.
I previously mentioned my aversion to kitchen/family rooms running across the back of a house. Of course these can be done well (as illustrated very well by people's beautiful examples in this thread). The risk is that they can become quite uncomfortable spaces. This can be rectified by re orientating the two spaces slightly.
Below are two David Wilson (Barratt) houses. The first is a typical example of a kitchen/family across the back of a house, the second is the same space but reorientated 90 degrees. The latter has a completely different feel and is a lovely space to be in. You could achieve the same by having your new 'lounge' as the kitchen and having the run across the back as the 'family' bit plus incorporate a utility in the same space.
vs (note photos are obviously 'handed')
I agree that the currently shown living room should be the dining room (or better still the kitchen) and the currently shown dining room, the living room. This current living room should also be a room not open plan into the hallway as it's neither one thing or another.
I didn't quite follow TA14's comments, but amending the cloaks to a wc and having a divide between there and the hall (glass door?) as he suggests I think would be a good idea.
I previously mentioned my aversion to kitchen/family rooms running across the back of a house. Of course these can be done well (as illustrated very well by people's beautiful examples in this thread). The risk is that they can become quite uncomfortable spaces. This can be rectified by re orientating the two spaces slightly.
Below are two David Wilson (Barratt) houses. The first is a typical example of a kitchen/family across the back of a house, the second is the same space but reorientated 90 degrees. The latter has a completely different feel and is a lovely space to be in. You could achieve the same by having your new 'lounge' as the kitchen and having the run across the back as the 'family' bit plus incorporate a utility in the same space.
vs (note photos are obviously 'handed')
More examples for you. The first shows how a through space from front door to back through a family space can work really well. If you squint a bit and shuffle some of the rooms about (switch 'relax' to study/wc and make 'store' a wc, then you are kind of (maybe!)) similar to yours. This layout works very well (again personal opinion).
The second shows a layout where you have to transit through one room to get to another. Whilst it appears to conform to my points above, it actually feels dislocated from the kitchen both on plan and in reality. This is exacerbated by the relax space is too small for scale of the rest of the house.
The first has sold out on this particular development, whereas the second type are not shifting.
vs
The second shows a layout where you have to transit through one room to get to another. Whilst it appears to conform to my points above, it actually feels dislocated from the kitchen both on plan and in reality. This is exacerbated by the relax space is too small for scale of the rest of the house.
The first has sold out on this particular development, whereas the second type are not shifting.
vs
Ok all - will need to move my leccie meter which is currently directly behind where the cable enters here......
I could spend about a grand (and what seems to be a lot of hassle to get the timing right) to move it to a meter box outside) or I was thinking just move the lot into the new kitchen.
Looks like plenty of 'slack' cable to do it without even isolating it
... 
What do you think?
For clarity the new position would be what is currently the cream exterior wall.
Ps. Some of you may know I am totally anti "smart Meter" but as I've stated in the past I'd accept one ( dull version) if they'd move it free
I could spend about a grand (and what seems to be a lot of hassle to get the timing right) to move it to a meter box outside) or I was thinking just move the lot into the new kitchen.
Looks like plenty of 'slack' cable to do it without even isolating it
... What do you think?
For clarity the new position would be what is currently the cream exterior wall.
Ps. Some of you may know I am totally anti "smart Meter" but as I've stated in the past I'd accept one ( dull version) if they'd move it free
Edited by dickymint on Friday 28th July 17:17
dickymint said:
Ok all - will need to move my leccie meter which is currently directly behind where the cable enters here......
I could spend about a grand (and what seems to be a lot of hassle to get the timing right) to move it to a meter box outside) or I was thinking just move the lot into the new kitchen.
Looks like plenty of 'slack' cable to do it without even isolating it ...
What do you think?
For clarity the new position would be what is currently the cream exterior wall.
Ps. Some of you may know I am totally anti "smart Meter" but as I've stated in the past I'd accept one ( dull version) if they'd move it free
Ah no good. I could spend about a grand (and what seems to be a lot of hassle to get the timing right) to move it to a meter box outside) or I was thinking just move the lot into the new kitchen.
Looks like plenty of 'slack' cable to do it without even isolating it
... What do you think?
For clarity the new position would be what is currently the cream exterior wall.
Ps. Some of you may know I am totally anti "smart Meter" but as I've stated in the past I'd accept one ( dull version) if they'd move it free
Edited by dickymint on Friday 28th July 17:17
Current regulations do not permit you to put a meter into a kitchen - if it already has then it's fine but if not no good.
We've just gone through this and had to totally move the meter retrench it fuse box move. Roughly £4K all in to get it all moved.... not great and unexpected but it's now in the ideal location plus makes its original position exactly as we designed the space.
Good luck OP - remember don't lose the WC period.
Welshbeef said:
Ah no good.
Current regulations do not permit you to put a meter into a kitchen - if it already has then it's fine but if not no good.
We've just gone through this and had to totally move the meter retrench it fuse box move. Roughly £4K all in to get it all moved.... not great and unexpected but it's now in the ideal location plus makes its original position exactly as we designed the space.
Good luck OP - remember don't lose the WC period.
That's good news as it's currently in the kitchen. It'll be more or less in the same place but on the other side of the wall Current regulations do not permit you to put a meter into a kitchen - if it already has then it's fine but if not no good.
We've just gone through this and had to totally move the meter retrench it fuse box move. Roughly £4K all in to get it all moved.... not great and unexpected but it's now in the ideal location plus makes its original position exactly as we designed the space.
Good luck OP - remember don't lose the WC period.
More good news as I've spoken to neighbor and daughter - they're totally happy with us building up to boundary (coal shed). Of course we'll replace the roof which will be done in fibreglass at the same time as our own.
Gave then a nice surprise and told them we would rip out their bushes and lay them
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