Wall section removal

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TROOPER88

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1,767 posts

179 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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Hi
I started a thread recently regarding converting a flat that I complete on this week from a one to a two bed. This has not be approved and will therefore remain a one bed.

You can view the advert for the flat here:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

My plan is to open the kitchen up by removing the units that are currently all that is dividing the reception room with the kitchen. The current door into the kitchen will be removed and replaced with a stud wall.

This was my intention but having had another look at the plan, I would like the advice from you guys.

Rather than do the above, would it be easy to remove the corner wall and entrance door into the lounge completely? Do you think this would open things up and improve the layout?

At the same time the small section of wall on the other end of the kitchen could also be removed?

I take it these would not be load bearing?

This means the floor plan would change from:



To this:




Maybe too open?

Many thanks in advance for any advice

andy43

9,722 posts

254 months

Tuesday 25th July 2017
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I would guess that those walls are structural. It's a flat so you'd need leaseholders permission I would think.

TROOPER88

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Tuesday 25th July 2017
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andy43 said:
I would guess that those walls are structural. It's a flat so you'd need leaseholders permission I would think.
Ok, thank you.

What is interesting is that in the lease there are the original floor plans, there was originally a wall between the reception room and the kitchen. I also know that the other one bed flats in the block still have the wall in place.

The gentleman that lived there has done so for many, many years....


Hitch

6,106 posts

194 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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There is no way of telling from those plans if it is structural or not. Get someone round to have a look.

What you are planning is what a lot of modern 1 beds are now designed with so the approach makes sense. I would place a door at the entrance to the new open plan living space. You can keep it open most of the time but it will define the space and have potential noise and warmth benefits.

I lived in a flat where the entrance corridor opened into the living space with no door and you could hear too much noise from the communal areas (and vice versa) and it took longer to get warm than a single room would have done.

TROOPER88

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Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Hitch said:
There is no way of telling from those plans if it is structural or not. Get someone round to have a look.

What you are planning is what a lot of modern 1 beds are now designed with so the approach makes sense. I would place a door at the entrance to the new open plan living space. You can keep it open most of the time but it will define the space and have potential noise and warmth benefits.

I lived in a flat where the entrance corridor opened into the living space with no door and you could hear too much noise from the communal areas (and vice versa) and it took longer to get warm than a single room would have done.
Thank you very much for this.

It makes perfect sense and will probably be the way I go if the sections are non-structural.

Cheers

smokey mow

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200 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Ignoring the structural aspects for a moment, the way you have drawn your proposal you would be creating an inner room of the bedroom.
Previously the means of escape from this room would have been directly via a protected hallway but what you are proposing would mean you would have to pass through another room in order to escape in the event of fire and for this reason it would not comply with the Building Regulations.

TROOPER88

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Wednesday 26th July 2017
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smokey mow said:
Ignoring the structural aspects for a moment, the way you have drawn your proposal you would be creating an inner room of the bedroom.
Previously the means of escape from this room would have been directly via a protected hallway but what you are proposing would mean you would have to pass through another room in order to escape in the event of fire and for this reason it would not comply with the Building Regulations.
Hi
I do not follow, not at all tbh.

The entrance and exit from the bedroom is not being changed.

At the moment you leave the bedroom onto a corridor and this would be the same once the work is complete.


TROOPER88

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Wednesday 26th July 2017
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As a previous member posted, there would be a door put in to accesss the reception room / kitchen.

smokey mow

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200 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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TROOPER88 said:
Hi
I do not follow, not at all tbh.

The entrance and exit from the bedroom is not being changed.

At the moment you leave the bedroom onto a corridor and this would be the same once the work is complete.
If you maintain the hallway by fitting a door to separate off the kitchen/living area And the bedroom opens into this hall then no problem. but as shown in your drawing the hallway has no door separation to the reception room which would not be acceptable for means of escape in event of fire.