double width garage door conversion

[Boxy100]

Paper Lawer,
Very interested in your efforts so far as I am in a similar position with twin doors on a double garage. From my previous enquiries some time ago, I thought this would cost around £5,000, but it looks like the prices your are being quoted will be lower.Paper Lawyer

If it's not too much trouble and assuming you have the job done, I would be most obliged by knowing to complete cost, so I have just joined this site in the hope of getting more information on this. I believe I am in a similar location B47 area?

Malcolm

[Paper Lawyer]

Boxy100 said:

Paper Lawer,
Very interested in your efforts so far as I am in a similar position with twin doors on a double garage. From my previous enquiries some time ago, I thought this would cost around £5,000, but it looks like the prices your are being quoted will be lower.Paper Lawyer

If it's not too much trouble and assuming you have the job done, I would be most obliged by knowing to complete cost, so I have just joined this site in the hope of getting more information on this. I believe I am in a similar location B47 area?

Malcolm

Hi, happy to tell all - really pleased with the outcome.

I went for a sectional door in golden oak finish which Elite Garage Doors (based in Banbury) supplied and installed for circa £2.5k. Elite recommended a builder, Stuart Martin (07973 142 530), who they work with frequently and for a further £1.6k he removed the central pillar, replaced the two lintels with a single lintel and extended my drive by a further paver length (to take into account the new door is mounted behind the opening, rather than within it). The building work was 2 days' effort (he kindly recovered and cleaned up the bricks from the central pillar) and Elite fitted the door in a morning.

Both Elite and Stuart were very professional and I would not hesitate to recommend either. Stuart used to live in Earlswood (or perhaps it was Wythall) so knows the area well and would be happy to pop up to perform a similar job.

The garage door is Novoferm (Elite is a family business with a link to Cardale who have a JV with Novoferm, hence the competitive pricing) and was circa £1k cheaper than the best Hormann quote that I received. Both German brands are of comparable quality.

I had a wireless switch supplied for use within the garage and a wireless keypad installed ouside the garage.

If you do speak to Mark or Lorraine at Elite, tell them Craig Armstrong recommended them!

Edited by Paper Lawyer on Thursday 4th January 22:45

PS I now need to find a matching wood stain for the side gate!

Edited by Paper Lawyer on Thursday 4th January 22:46

[Alucidnation]

Is it me or is that sagging in the middle??

[Paper Lawyer]

I see what you mean from the photo but it is a trick of the camera phone - it was a big steel and the door frame installation would have been problematic if it did. Blame the photo on the naff camera on my Galaxy A5!

Edited by Paper Lawyer on Friday 5th January 10:18

[Nano2nd]

looks great!

[Alucidnation]

Paper Lawyer said:

I see what you mean from the photo but it is a trick of the camera phone - it was a big steel and the door frame installation would have been problematic if it did. Blame the photo on the naff camera on my Galaxy A5!

Edited by Paper Lawyer on Friday 5th January 10:18

Fair enough.

Nice job anyway.

Looks like it has always been like that.

Now, with the money you have left over, go out and buy a decent phone.

[Skyedriver]

Skyedriver said:

Interested in this myself, we have an 8' door and a personnel door, I want to make it one 13' door inc removing central pillar. I think it will require approval of Building Control (Building Warrant up here in Scotland).

Edited by Skyedriver on Monday 28th August 21:35

Well the existing Autodor opening mechanism died yesterday, fortunately the car wasn't in the garage at the time.
Does anyone know a company that can fit a new full width door, removing the pillar and personnel door?
Thanks

[dhutch]

Parents have just had this done.

Two 2100 openings knocked into a 4700 opening, large roof with attic trusses, £2000. No door before or after.

Breakdown
180 Structural eng calcs
225 Support and remove lintels
685 200x100x12.5 lintel
420 Fit above and brickwork
165 Prep paint lintel, tidy up after.
335 vat
2000 total


Daniel

[Sandman666]

I am just looking into doing the same conversion myself.
Can the last person who posted please tell me was this quote in Scotland?
If so which builder and did your parents have to get a building warrant?

[I-A]

Has anybody had this done recently? Specifically West Yorkshire way.

Thank you

[Jakg]

henrycrun said:

Curious as to why the change ?

Won't 2 singles be more flexible with storage and easier to stay dry when going out in a storm ?

I have a double garage and while it's probably wide enough for parking two cars (4.66m), I wanted it for working on cars, so the car needs to go in the middle with space all around.
With two doors I don't know how I'd get the car in this position.



I'm aware it's not a fancy PH garage.

[franki68]

Thread resurrection.

I am considering doing this ,but our garage has a flat above it ,I read that it may need planning permission as there needs to be another rsj running from the front to the rear .
Anyone know if this is correct ? Be a major pain waiting for planning permission .

[I-A]

Can't answer the above sorry but back on this now, have contacted a few builders in West Yorkshire.

Will post back and certainly seek advice!!

[AW10]

I think not so much planning permission as building control involvement?

[thecrow]

We went from two knackered manual single up and over doors, to a double Alutec sectional. Old doors off, pillar down, steels out, new steel in, new door in and operational, all in the same day. Cost less than £5k. Made a massive difference to the usefulness of the garage, even if I can no longer get a car in it for other reasons!

[dhutch]

henrycrun said:

Curious as to why the change ?

Won't 2 singles be more flexible with storage and easier to stay dry when going out in a storm ?

I think often it is the case that both the single doors are too narrow to practically get a car through.

Small doors at only 6ft6 (1.98m) but even 7ft (2.13m) is proper tight for a lot of modern cars, even without a frame inside of that.

We as a nation still appear to refer to the 1970s for garage door sizes!

[______]

dhutch said:

henrycrun said:

Curious as to why the change ?

Won't 2 singles be more flexible with storage and easier to stay dry when going out in a storm ?

I think often it is the case that both the single doors are too narrow to practically get a car through.

Small doors at only 6ft6 (1.98m) but even 7ft (2.13m) is proper tight for a lot of modern cars, even without a frame inside of that.

We as a nation still appear to refer to the 1970s for garage door sizes!

We went for 2x 8ft doors for that very reason, although as our garage is 10m wide we could have done 4x6ft.....

[franki68]

My car has 1cm on either side ,I can’t even fit the wife’s car in ,the bizarre thing is the previous owners built this garage 5 years ago and neither of their cars fitted.

[dhutch]

franki68 said:

My car has 1cm on either side ,I can’t even fit the wife’s car in ,the bizarre thing is the previous owners built this garage 5 years ago and neither of their cars fitted.

Its bonkers.

My parents when having there garage designed, a large 1.5 depth double, with a workshop and store to one side, attic storage with doors in gable end, etc, asked the architect for 'good large doors, so that it was easy to get cars in and out' and ended up with 7ft 2.1m door which where tight for almost all cars. Especially as one of the two doors didn't have a direct approach as only a cars length ahead of the door.

They should have checked more closely, but has three young children. Absolutely lovely garage, but wanted a foot on the width of each door, I would have been fuming.

Not even easy to rebuild one gable, as the 'garage' end was designed to have space for one car between the garage and the house, which would then have become too tight.

Utterly awful advice.

[aeropilot]

franki68 said:

Thread resurrection.

I am considering doing this ,but our garage has a flat above it ,I read that it may need planning permission as there needs to be another rsj running from the front to the rear .
Anyone know if this is correct ? Be a major pain waiting for planning permission .

As said above, maybe more to do with Building Control having a habitable dwelling above it.
And that will involve a SE doing calcs, and with a dwelling above, the higher loads coming down from above, might mean that the depth of the single double width steel beam might end up being too deep to work, as there will need to be enough space from the current underside of the door opening to fit the new beam in.
The loads will also be greater at the door edges as well, and new brick piers might be needed or replaced by a steel post at the sides instead, with footings.

I think this will not be a cheap change.