Price for a barn

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montecristo

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178 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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I'm thinking of buying an old brick barn in Shropshire, 200m2 with planning permission to be a house. Asbestos cement roof, otherwise sound-ish. The vendor wants £80k, which does not seem unreasonable when I look at other such buildings for sale on Rightmove.

Does that price seem high? I know it's not much information to go on, but roughly...

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

109 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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Has it got mains services? Electric, Water etc?

kiethton

13,917 posts

181 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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You'd need to work it back to get a proper value.

Either A

- Speak to a surveyor who will tell you categorically his opinion of what it's worth in its current form and a complete report detailing why

or B

- Look at the end, completed value for the property, if no direct comp's take a look at a similar range of properties across a wider area. Get a quote or an opinion on the cost of developing the barn to fully reflect the current planning permission and any costs/fees associated with the purchase. Add 20-30% to this number to reflect both a contingency for the work and a "developers margin" to account for the extra risk you are taking on by not buying the finished, warranted article. Take this cost from the expected completed value to give yourself an idea of the value of the barn in its current state.

montecristo

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SantaBarbara said:
Has it got mains services? Electric, Water etc?
I think it has electricity. Not water. Both are available within 100 yards.

SantaBarbara

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Monday 23rd October 2017
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How long ago was PP granted?

montecristo

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SantaBarbara said:
How long ago was PP granted?
Last year, so still current.

montecristo

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kiethton said:
You'd need to work it back to get a proper value.

- Speak to a surveyor who will tell you categorically his opinion of what it's worth in its current form and a complete report detailing why
That's a good idea. It's not easy for me/my surveyor to access the inside though.

kiethton

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181 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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montecristo said:
kiethton said:
You'd need to work it back to get a proper value.

- Speak to a surveyor who will tell you categorically his opinion of what it's worth in its current form and a complete report detailing why
That's a good idea. It's not easy for me/my surveyor to access the inside though.
Is the barn being advertised for sale on the open market?

If so the agent will be used to accommodating valuers, par for the course for anybody that requires a mortgage

carinatauk

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253 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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What is the cost to remove the Asbestos roof?

kurt535

3,559 posts

118 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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What would we say is the resto cost psm? I'll go for £1300 minimum on a barn. Be interested to hear what cost psm other people think it is?


BoRED S2upid

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241 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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Sounds very reasonable to me as barns around here go for £500k which doesn’t add up to me as the finished conversation would be well under a million.

V8RX7

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264 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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In a rational market a barn with PP is worth less than land with PP as it constrains you and will generally cost more to underpin, re roof, point up etc than it would to start from scratch.

However it very much depends upon it's condition, location and the size / design of the barn and it's proximity to other barns etc

I recently bid £415k for a 4000sqft barn that I thought I could easily sell for £1M and I was considerably outbid.

bigmowley

1,900 posts

177 months

Monday 23rd October 2017
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This ^
Plus remember that current building regs will be applied even though it is a barn restoration. This can add a shed load more costs as it is difficult to bring old buildings up to current regs for air leakage and thermal performance. What ever you think it will cost double it.