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ghost83

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m3jappa said:
The price for a granite sett drive would be way in excess of that resin price. I wouldn't like to say without working it out but its fall off your chair stuff.

The resin price sounds sensible, however slightly off the topic i find his quote method bizaree. He's literally put all his labour into the materials.
Surely risky for him when people start wanting it a few m2 smaller or no edgings etc, also risky if he's slighty mismeasured, which is easily done when lots of drives have random shapes and angles in them. 50 less edgings is only 5 linear meters but on his workings its quite a lot of money.

Mind you a massive result if they want more hehe
What makes it expensive? The cost of the blocks in the first place or the labour? what makes it so expensive

ghost83

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I see what you mean regarding granite setts just went on travis Perkins who stick the marshalls granite setts and it would be around 13k just for the blocks alone *gulp*

Christ think I underestimated the cost of a bloody driveway lol

ghost83

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Wonder why that's so cheap?

It's 1400 just for 7m2 at travis Perkins

ghost83

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It says a crate covers 5m2 so you order by the crate load I'd need 15 crates of the 100x100x100 I believe??? Which is basically 75m2

Comes in at just over 3,500

Still 10k cheaper than travis Perkins

Or am I missing something

ghost83

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Rosscow said:
No it doesn't? Clearly says on this page that a crate of 100 x 100 x 50 setts = 9m²

https://granitesettsuk.co.uk/silver-grey-granite-s...

5m² is for the 100mm thick setts.
Oh yeah, would the 50mm be suitable for the drive then over the 100mm (I'm thinking longetivity)

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sooty61 said:
I had a block paving drive laid in the spring of this year. I was thinking of the Marshall Cobbletech which is supposed to be maintenance free as it is bonded together but when I saw it laid I went off it as it was a bit too shiny (it had been down four years). We went for Bradstone Woburn Rumbled block paving in a light buff colour which looks different to the ubiquitous Marshall blocks. With the Surrey tax (I had four people round - only 2 quoted) it was £15k for 79 sq m. The builder was a bit of a cowboy and I was pleased to see the back of him - I am now having to get the water company in to take up part of the drive where he threw concrete down the water meter and it fills up with water and overflows...
Apart from the water issue does it look nice?

Any pics?

ghost83

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That looks alright

Who knew driveways would be a bloody minefield lol

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m3jappa said:
Why is granite expensive:

Blocks them selves will be £30 per m2 and up (which is cheap and will be chinese granite which some really don't like).

same type 1 base as block paving but block paving is laid on a sand screed, so quicker to level a large area, granite is laid on a wet/damp sand and cement mix and each course is laid to a line, essentially your building a brick wall on the floor, except a brick wall is built level, a drive is built to suitable falls and possibly even cross falls as well.
Longer to cut, granite is harder than concrete block paving, it can't be cut using a splitter either.

finally its got to be wet jointed, using either sand and cement (a very very long process) or some type of slurry which is expensive and doesn't go far when theres a deep joint around potentially thousands of blocks.

Also lots of different types of granite sett. The original is the cobble rough cut type. For me ill likely use the sawn granite setts which would be along the lines of 240x160x50, 200x160x50, 160x160x50.
you can get sawn top and rough sides as well, all depends on the type of house your using them on. Old cottage look, rough cut setts, more modern, sawn setts.

Done well it will literally last forever. No weeds ever, and after a clean will look as new as long as it hasn't been stained by oil or similar.
You've sold it to me! Like the sawn setts so where would you buy from?

ghost83

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BlueHave said:
So many cowboys doing block or brick driveways without any real knowledge of doing a proper base. After a few months they sink
Looks like this is what happened with the current driveway

ghost83

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BlackLabel said:
Just out of interest what do most folks in the industry use for their own drives?
Good question

ghost83

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is that granite setts

looks fantastic

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sooty61 said:
This is the only photo I have and the cars are on it but you can see the colour. We are pleased with the overall look despite some minor niggles with attention to detail. One of the companies who came round, measured up but never bothered to quote thought he was very artistic and that grey was the best colour to go for but I prefer this. The guy who actually did it made it up as he went along so we had to stop him on three or four times to rip it up and start again. He was such an arrogant prick I was pleased to see the back of him .


Looks nice that, fitting for the house shame you're having problems

ghost83

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Saturday 11th November 2017
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m3jappa said:
£200 a meter! wow! i need to be moving to surrey. Half that in essex is considered expensive (which for a proper job isn't btw).

Btw, ghost that picture you asked if it was granite setts, no it was the argent blocks i mentioned.
Looks stunning, your work looks amazing mate

ghost83

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Wednesday 15th November 2017
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If I get the blocks or dawn granite

What sort of labour price do I want to be paying? Don't want to get ripped off!

I found out previous owner only paid £1,100 for the current drive back in 1990 lol


ghost83

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Just as a little update: they rang me today to see if I want to go ahead I told them my concerns and I was shopping around and they offered to knock a grand off the price instantly! This has annoyed me somewhat and rly does my head in! If they can do it at that price in the first place why try and rip off furious

So I've decided to follow advice on here and either go for the argent blocks or save for the sawn granite, if I go that route I'd have to buy the blocks over time then get someone to come and fit them

ghost83

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TA14 said:
It looks like there'd be a fair bit of digging for the path round the side of the house. Why not do that first? Do you want a mini retaining wall or a steeper slope?
yeah thats whats happening hence why I'm getting quotes based on the drawings, but they won't be doing resin down the path that will be nice paving

ghost83

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Monday 20th November 2017
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We will be aiming at may for it doing whilst we're away as we are having a new bathroom and our soffits and facias doing also so for us it will be hopefully decent weather for them to do it if we go down the granite route then it would have to be the year after due to cost

ghost83

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Tuesday 21st November 2017
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I get a lot of leaves as I have 3 trees but a good garden vac or blower gets them up fairly quickly

ghost83

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Just as a follow up I’ve decided to go against resin as everyone I’ve spoke to who’s had it done think they look nice to begin with but quickly deteriorate and same with patterned concrete so following advice on here I’m looking to have blocks but don’t want any weeds

So does anyone know a reputable company in Yorkshire? As I rly don’t want to get fleeced

This is what I’m fancying and same colour sliding gate




ghost83

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Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Cheers for the help

I will call those in Leeds and have a chat I seriously don’t want sinking or weeds so will have to chat about the best way forward