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ghost83

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190 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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davgar said:
think thats about the going rate. whats the current driveway?
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ghost83

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Friday 10th November 2017
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m3jappa said:
The price for a granite sett drive would be way in excess of that resin price. I wouldn't like to say without working it out but its fall off your chair stuff.

The resin price sounds sensible, however slightly off the topic i find his quote method bizaree. He's literally put all his labour into the materials.
Surely risky for him when people start wanting it a few m2 smaller or no edgings etc, also risky if he's slighty mismeasured, which is easily done when lots of drives have random shapes and angles in them. 50 less edgings is only 5 linear meters but on his workings its quite a lot of money.

Mind you a massive result if they want more hehe
What makes it expensive? The cost of the blocks in the first place or the labour? what makes it so expensive

ghost83

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Friday 10th November 2017
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I see what you mean regarding granite setts just went on travis Perkins who stick the marshalls granite setts and it would be around 13k just for the blocks alone *gulp*

Christ think I underestimated the cost of a bloody driveway lol

TA14

12,722 posts

258 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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ghost83 said:
I see what you mean regarding granite setts just went on travis Perkins who stick the marshalls granite setts and it would be around 13k just for the blocks alone *gulp*

Christ think I underestimated the cost of a bloody driveway lol
Extra labour cost as well frown

Rosscow

8,772 posts

163 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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A quick Google:

100 x 100 x 50mm granite setts

9m² per crate

8 crates = 72m²

Less than £2400 delivered (to a WF postcode) including VAT.

https://granitesettsuk.co.uk/silver-grey-granite-s...

£8700 for resin? No thanks. I'd go with the granite!


ghost83

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Friday 10th November 2017
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Wonder why that's so cheap?

It's 1400 just for 7m2 at travis Perkins

Rosscow

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Friday 10th November 2017
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ghost83 said:
Wonder why that's so cheap?

It's 1400 just for 7m2 at travis Perkins
I think it's more a case of TP ripping people off......

ghost83

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Friday 10th November 2017
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It says a crate covers 5m2 so you order by the crate load I'd need 15 crates of the 100x100x100 I believe??? Which is basically 75m2

Comes in at just over 3,500

Still 10k cheaper than travis Perkins

Or am I missing something

Rosscow

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163 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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ghost83 said:
It says a crate covers 5m2 so you order by the crate load I'd need 15 crates of the 100x100x100 I believe??? Which is basically 75m2

Comes in at just over 3,500

Still 10k cheaper than travis Perkins

Or am I missing something
No it doesn't? Clearly says on this page that a crate of 100 x 100 x 50 setts = 9m²

https://granitesettsuk.co.uk/silver-grey-granite-s...

5m² is for the 100mm thick setts.

Chicken Chaser

7,809 posts

224 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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We've got block paving, its probably been down a while judging by its colour appearance (power washing seems to do absolutely nothing to it). I have to treat it several times a year due to weeds/moss/soil build up and its sunk where the cars stand.

This thread has confirmed to me that once I've finished renovating this place, i'm going for Tarmac. Low maintenance, looks neat and tidy if not a bit boring. I'll put a block edge around it.

Anyone know a cost for Tarmac m2 and not by our friendly Irish heritage friends?

Edited by Chicken Chaser on Friday 10th November 13:06

ghost83

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Friday 10th November 2017
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Rosscow said:
No it doesn't? Clearly says on this page that a crate of 100 x 100 x 50 setts = 9m²

https://granitesettsuk.co.uk/silver-grey-granite-s...

5m² is for the 100mm thick setts.
Oh yeah, would the 50mm be suitable for the drive then over the 100mm (I'm thinking longetivity)

acme

2,971 posts

198 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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My standard response when tarmac (asphalt) is mentioned, don't do it. It's not designed for driveways, tyre scrubbing at low speed will pick out the aggregate from the bitumen, asphalt is not designed for this purpose.

sooty61

688 posts

171 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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I had a block paving drive laid in the spring of this year. I was thinking of the Marshall Cobbletech which is supposed to be maintenance free as it is bonded together but when I saw it laid I went off it as it was a bit too shiny (it had been down four years). We went for Bradstone Woburn Rumbled block paving in a light buff colour which looks different to the ubiquitous Marshall blocks. With the Surrey tax (I had four people round - only 2 quoted) it was £15k for 79 sq m. The builder was a bit of a cowboy and I was pleased to see the back of him - I am now having to get the water company in to take up part of the drive where he threw concrete down the water meter and it fills up with water and overflows...

sandman77

2,417 posts

138 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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acme said:
My standard response when tarmac (asphalt) is mentioned, don't do it. It's not designed for driveways, tyre scrubbing at low speed will pick out the aggregate from the bitumen, asphalt is not designed for this purpose.
It seems to hold up ok in public car parks all over the country. In fact I’m sure the asphalt in city’s where there is on street parking gets a lot more abuse than a residential driveway.

acme

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198 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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sandman77 said:
It seems to hold up ok in public car parks all over the country. In fact I’m sure the asphalt in city’s where there is on street parking gets a lot more abuse than a residential driveway.
A very fair reply. It's a combination of hand laying vs machine lay and the latter being capable of coarser grades of aggregate mixed in with differing grades of bitumen PEN. As with all things in life it can be measured as to whether somebody in the industry would put it on their own driveway, and the general rule of thumb is they wouldn't.



sandman77

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138 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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acme said:
A very fair reply. It's a combination of hand laying vs machine lay and the latter being capable of coarser grades of aggregate mixed in with differing grades of bitumen PEN. As with all things in life it can be measured as to whether somebody in the industry would put it on their own driveway, and the general rule of thumb is they wouldn't.
Ah - I thought there must be good reason for your comment. Sounds like you know what you are talking about.
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ghost83

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Friday 10th November 2017
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sooty61 said:
I had a block paving drive laid in the spring of this year. I was thinking of the Marshall Cobbletech which is supposed to be maintenance free as it is bonded together but when I saw it laid I went off it as it was a bit too shiny (it had been down four years). We went for Bradstone Woburn Rumbled block paving in a light buff colour which looks different to the ubiquitous Marshall blocks. With the Surrey tax (I had four people round - only 2 quoted) it was £15k for 79 sq m. The builder was a bit of a cowboy and I was pleased to see the back of him - I am now having to get the water company in to take up part of the drive where he threw concrete down the water meter and it fills up with water and overflows...
Apart from the water issue does it look nice?

Any pics?

SAB888

3,244 posts

207 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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sandman77 said:
acme said:
A very fair reply. It's a combination of hand laying vs machine lay and the latter being capable of coarser grades of aggregate mixed in with differing grades of bitumen PEN. As with all things in life it can be measured as to whether somebody in the industry would put it on their own driveway, and the general rule of thumb is they wouldn't.
Ah - I thought there must be good reason for your comment. Sounds like you know what you are talking about.
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I'm with Acme, wouldn't have it on my drive. Anyone thinking of using tarmacadam may be interested in what could go wrong and would be a pain to rectify:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

was8v

1,937 posts

195 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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At a parkland campus near us they laid loads of tarmac paths, with a yellow resin bonded aggregate finish. Looked fantastic.

After a couple of years this has all lifted and looks awful with just foot traffic and occasional maintenance team quad bikes.

Now they have relaid some of them with yellow coloured tarmac. This doesn't look as good.




My neighbour laid his own drive 15 years ago.

He did "exposed aggregate concrete" i.e. laid concrete himself, then chucked some aggregate on the top.

This was really cheap still looks great today. Cheaper than tarmac and you can choose the aggregate.

It looks something like this:


ghost83

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That looks alright

Who knew driveways would be a bloody minefield lol