Show us your real estate pawn (vol 3)

[FourWheelDrift]

Well if you ever wondered why Guildford is a concrete jungle today, I guess all the best bits were taken out in between 1915 and 1925

[EarlofDrift]

NDA said:

Escort3500 said:

Top drawer fakery there. The estate agent’s (sorry, relator’s) blurb is hilarious.

"Built with 16th century English Tudor architectural elements imported from Guildford"

"Guildford’s entire substructure, including the roof, is made from thick, reinforced concrete"

"metal downspouts dated 1589 and red tile roof all dazzle as they did when they were originally installed"

Sounds, er, really genuine.

That's a real Triggers Broom of a house.

[easytiger123]

Reminds me of the sort of house where the rich murderer lives in various episodes of Columbo.

[cmvtec]

I love Americans.

"We don't have enough history here, lets import some".

[qube_TA]

Have we had this little fixer-upper?

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/924-Bel-Air-Rd-...

It comes with an Airwolf

[S1KRR]

Screams NBA / NFL player to me.

Interesting, but so not for me. Even if I was uber wealthy!

[dobly]

^ trying to work out where the original house of that size could have been in Guildford, and come to the conclusion that it was probably from a village just outside Guildford, such as Jacobs Well or Burpham - I suppose It could have been removed from the path of the A3?

From Wikipedia: " A programme of road improvements, starting in the 1920s, transformed the road, so that it is now predominantly a two or three lane carriageway, bypassing the town centres; south of the South Downs National Park, it includes a section of motorway, the A3(M), just before the road reaches the A27 at Havant. The construction of the Kingston and Guildford bypasses in the 1920s and 1930s made use of temporary narrow gauge railways to move the construction materials. The Esher bypass, between Hook from the first mentioned bypass to the M25, is three lanes with a motorway-standard hard shoulder; from there to Guildford the road has three lanes."

[Doofus]

dobly said:

^ trying to work out where the original house of that size could have been in Guildford, and come to the conclusion that it was probably from a village just outside Guildford, such as Jacobs Well or Burpham - I suppose It could have been removed from the path of the A3?

From Wikipedia: " A programme of road improvements, starting in the 1920s, transformed the road, so that it is now predominantly a two or three lane carriageway, bypassing the town centres; south of the South Downs National Park, it includes a section of motorway, the A3(M), just before the road reaches the A27 at Havant. The construction of the Kingston and Guildford bypasses in the 1920s and 1930s made use of temporary narrow gauge railways to move the construction materials. The Esher bypass, between Hook from the first mentioned bypass to the M25, is three lanes with a motorway-standard hard shoulder; from there to Guildford the road has three lanes."

It doesn't say that the house was originaly in England at all. What Tudor house would have had a wine cellar, a butler's pantry and a four car garage?

[phil_cardiff]

S1KRR said:

Screams NBA / NFL player to me.

Interesting, but so not for me. Even if I was uber wealthy!

$150m seems out of reach for most ballers to me. Could be wrong though

[dobly]

Doofus said:

It doesn't say that the house was originaly in England at all. What Tudor house would have had a wine cellar, a butler's pantry and a four car garage?

No, but bits of it, architectural elements, were from a house in or near Guildford

Perhaps I'm being naive regarding US estate agents, but

"Built with 16th century English Tudor architectural elements imported from Guildford, England and meticulously carried from England in dozens of ship containers"
"..., amply supporting all of its timeless architectural elements. The antique brick walls and terracotta window frames, ancient carved wood paneling, elaborate cornice work, antique oak floors, limestone archways and walls, leaded glass windows, metal downspouts dated 1589 and red tile roof"

Also some room interiors have come from other UK houses:

"Living Room
From Cassiobury Hall, the home of the 2nd Earl of Essex, Robert Devereux"

"Dining Room
Georgian Period 18th-century honey-toned pine paneling from Felling Hall, Northumberland."

"Library
this room from Battersea-on-Thames"

Sounds to me as if the American who had it built bought several loads of architectural salvage and had it applied to a "modern" structure in the 1910's-1920's - possibly from crumbling English piles, including one in or near Guildford.
(Much like Hearst of Hearst Castle fame - he purchased thousands of architectural elements from all over Europe & beyond)

[greygoose]

FourWheelDrift said:

"Guildford, an authentic 16th-century Tudor residence sits majestically on 18 park-like acres with sweeping vistas and spectacular sunsets overlooking the neighbouring valley" 21,000 sq/ft and on the market for £7.6m.

And it's just a 90 minute drive from Manhattan.

https://www.guildfordestate.com/

My cousin's husband used to drive from near there to Manhattan daily and he said it was a dire drive which had to be well timed to be 90 minutes, I would guess if you could afford the "Tudor" pile then you would helicopter in or have a driver.

[easytiger123]

greygoose said:

My cousin's husband used to drive from near there to Manhattan daily and he said it was a dire drive which had to be well timed to be 90 minutes, I would guess if you could afford the "Tudor" pile then you would helicopter in or have a driver.

I recall that Mr Randolph and Mr Mortimer Duke definitely had a driver, which should have made the same commute slightly more tolerable.

[Doofus]

dobly said:

No, but bits of it, architectural elements, were from a house in or near Guildford

Perhaps I'm being naive regarding US estate agents, but

"Built with 16th century English Tudor architectural elements imported from Guildford, England and meticulously carried from England in dozens of ship containers"
"..., amply supporting all of its timeless architectural elements. The antique brick walls and terracotta window frames, ancient carved wood paneling, elaborate cornice work, antique oak floors, limestone archways and walls, leaded glass windows, metal downspouts dated 1589 and red tile roof"

Also some room interiors have come from other UK houses:

"Living Room
From Cassiobury Hall, the home of the 2nd Earl of Essex, Robert Devereux"

"Dining Room
Georgian Period 18th-century honey-toned pine paneling from Felling Hall, Northumberland."

"Library
this room from Battersea-on-Thames"

Sounds to me as if the American who had it built bought several loads of architectural salvage and had it applied to a "modern" structure in the 1910's-1920's - possibly from crumbling English piles, including one in or near Guildford.
(Much like Hearst of Hearst Castle fame - he purchased thousands of architectural elements from all over Europe & beyond)

Exactly. A house that size never existed around Guildford.

[FourWheelDrift]

Doofus said:

Exactly. A house that size never existed around Guildford.

Sutton Place 3 miles NE of Guildford is still there and is the house this one is based on. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutton_Place,_Surrey

Loseley Park is still there too - http://www.loseleypark.co.uk/

17th century Wonersh Park was finally demolished in 1929. http://www.lostheritage.org.uk/lh_complete_list.ht... scroll down to Surrey.

[Blackpuddin]

Well, ignoring all the protestations about provenance, and just looking at the house for what it is, I love it.

[Mr Roper]

easytiger123 said:

I recall that Mr Randolph and Mr Mortimer Duke definitely had a driver, which should have made the same commute slightly more tolerable.

Would you like to bet a $ on that?

[Burwood]

FourWheelDrift said:

Doofus said:

Exactly. A house that size never existed around Guildford.

Sutton Place 3 miles NE of Guildford is still there and is the house this one is based on. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutton_Place,_Surrey

Loseley Park is still there too - http://www.loseleypark.co.uk/

17th century Wonersh Park was finally demolished in 1929. http://www.lostheritage.org.uk/lh_complete_list.ht... scroll down to Surrey.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-82799195.html

Godalming is very close to Guildford.

[RichB]

Doofus said:

Exactly. A house that size never existed around Guildford.

Eh? This is Guildford, Surrey. There are loads of mansions and historic manor houses in the area. I see someone has already highlighted a few but there are plenty more hidden away that are in private ownership.

[Doofus]

RichB said:

Doofus said:

Exactly. A house that size never existed around Guildford.

Eh? This is Guildford, Surrey. There are loads of mansions and historic manor houses in the area. I see someone has already highlighted a few but there are plenty more hidden away that are in private ownership.

I was unclear I was replying to a poster who seemed to be trying to find the location of that US house when it was originally extant in Guildford. I was pointing out that it never existed

[RichB]

Doofus said:

RichB said:

Doofus said:

Exactly. A house that size never existed around Guildford.

Eh? This is Guildford, Surrey. There are loads of mansions and historic manor houses in the area. I see someone has already highlighted a few but there are plenty more hidden away that are in private ownership.

I was unclear I was replying to a poster who seemed to be trying to find the location of that US house when it was originally extant in Guildford. I was pointing out that it never existed

I apologise...