Chainsaw or not...... ?

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Le Vette

4,583 posts

234 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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If you need your fingers to count up to ten then never use a chainsaw. HTH

V8RX7

26,868 posts

263 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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You shouldn't cut brush with a chainsaw - it can flick the chain off.

Generally considered that anything thinner than your thumb is brush.


MockingJay

1,311 posts

129 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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V8RX7

26,868 posts

263 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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MockingJay said:
I have one and it is great for it's job - pruning branches up high.

Not sure how effective it would be in this case but I'd agree you're far enough away not to care if the chain broke.

Condi

17,195 posts

171 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Not quite sure why everyone is so anti chainsaw, they're a common tool for hedge layers to use when thinning much bigger and much smaller stuff than that. A chainsaw will comfortably cut through the main stem, although its not the right tool if you're just looking to cut the brash at the top, kinda depends how much off you want.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Condi said:
Not quite sure why everyone is so anti chainsaw, they're a common tool for hedge layers to use when thinning much bigger and much smaller stuff than that. A chainsaw will comfortably cut through the main stem, although its not the right tool if you're just looking to cut the brash at the top, kinda depends how much off you want.
The OP wants to take a foot off and a chainsaw is about the worst tool you could do that with. It would kick like fk

Muncher

12,219 posts

249 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Condi said:
Not quite sure why everyone is so anti chainsaw, they're a common tool for hedge layers to use when thinning much bigger and much smaller stuff than that. A chainsaw will comfortably cut through the main stem, although its not the right tool if you're just looking to cut the brash at the top, kinda depends how much off you want.
They are dangerous in the right hands, let alone for a novice using one over head height amongst flexible branches. The risk/utility here is completely out of kilter.

Condi

17,195 posts

171 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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Willy Nilly said:
Condi said:
Not quite sure why everyone is so anti chainsaw, they're a common tool for hedge layers to use when thinning much bigger and much smaller stuff than that. A chainsaw will comfortably cut through the main stem, although its not the right tool if you're just looking to cut the brash at the top, kinda depends how much off you want.
The OP wants to take a foot off and a chainsaw is about the worst tool you could do that with. It would kick like fk
Why doesnt he use the chainsaw to take a foot off the bottom and then he wont have an issue for 4 years?

GliderRider

2,093 posts

81 months

Thursday 18th January 2018
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A professional tree surgeon friend was cutting a hedge just before Christmas. The chainsaw kicked back; cutting him from the right hand corner of his mouth to just below the middle of his nose, along the top of his moustache line, leaving his lip hang on by the bit where it meets the left hand side. He showed me the photos before the surgeon repaired him; not nice!

This is someone who did the training and qualifications at agricultural college, has all the correct safety gear (and uses it) and has been working with chainsaws daily for fifteen years or so.

Why did he get cut? His helmet with the face guard wasn't holding the ear defenders right, so the saw was at head height with no ear protection. He took the helmet off and put plain ear defenders on...


If you must do the hedge yourself, maybe an electric reciprocating saw for £20 or so, would work. I use one for anything working up a ladder, tree or at head height, and I have both petrol and electric chainsaws.


Arif110

794 posts

214 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Le Vette said:
If you need your fingers to count up to ten then never use a chainsaw. HTH
rolleyes Your fingers are never at risk with a normal chainsaw that a normal person could buy (only with a top-handle, to obtain which you'd need to circumnavigate some pretty hard-&-fast rules/pull the wool to purchase)

Arif110

794 posts

214 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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V8RX7 said:
You shouldn't cut brush with a chainsaw - it can flick the chain off.
I'd proffer that that is more a factor of chain sharpness & tension, rather than the wrong thing being cut.

Arif110

794 posts

214 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Condi said:
Why doesnt he use the chainsaw to take a foot off the bottom and then he wont have an issue for 4 years?
Indeed - removing the very notion of having the chainsaw above head height negates about 80% of the risks. Access to the other side permits this risk-set to be negated.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Arif110 said:
rolleyes Your fingers are never at risk with a normal chainsaw that a normal person could buy (only with a top-handle, to obtain which you'd need to circumnavigate some pretty hard-&-fast rules/pull the wool to purchase)
Plenty of used ones on eBay.

Arif110

794 posts

214 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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A bit like how it's argued with cars (spuriously sometimes) - often one's safety is with power & speed (as long as the chain is sharp, & tensioned correctly) - this IMO is very much the case with chainsaws (& this job) . You can use a sharp chainsaw for normal hedges with no issues or elevated danger. The rule being always being able to brace any motion (with your muscles) - so no wielding above shoulders by definition.

thebraketester

14,232 posts

138 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Build a bigger fence. That fence is useless, and I actually see the hedge being that size as of benefit to you as a deterrent for people jumping onto your property. smile

Herbs

4,916 posts

229 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Arif110 said:
rolleyes Your fingers are never at risk with a normal chainsaw that a normal person could buy (only with a top-handle, to obtain which you'd need to circumnavigate some pretty hard-&-fast rules/pull the wool to purchase)
Plenty of used ones on eBay.
Fingers?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Herbs said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Arif110 said:
rolleyes Your fingers are never at risk with a normal chainsaw that a normal person could buy (only with a top-handle, to obtain which you'd need to circumnavigate some pretty hard-&-fast rules/pull the wool to purchase)
Plenty of used ones on eBay.
Fingers?
I laughed. Am I a bad man?

Herbs

4,916 posts

229 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
I laughed. Am I a bad man?
Join the club smile

Steve Campbell

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2,136 posts

168 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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thebraketester said:
Build a bigger fence. That fence is useless, and I actually see the hedge being that size as of benefit to you as a deterrent for people jumping onto your property. smile
We like the small fence. It's purely aesthetic and marking the boundary. It protects the Western side of the garden and so allows lots of late summer sunshine into the garden...hence why we want the hedge lower (or back to what it used to be when the school weren't tight on groundsmen contractors !).

If we didn't have the fence, the deer would get into the garden and eat all the flowers :-)

Would be burglars would use the hedge route in last. It's far easier to climb over the wall at the side of the house rather than get into the school field then walk 300 metres to get through a prickly hedge....even if it will only be 4.5ft high.

Thanks to all responders (including PM's). I'm going to use it as an excuse to buy some better hedge trimming tools (NOT chainsaw) and go at it with muscle & brains rather than chainsaw wielding amateur maniac :-)


edthedead

374 posts

182 months

Friday 19th January 2018
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Haven't read any of the thread other than the title but the answer is always YES