Turning a house into a fortress

[227bhp]

Faz50 said:

eliot said:

Re. Dogs
When you are out walking the dog or on holiday with the dog - who’s looking afer the house?

There’s plenty of measures you can take without getting a dog - i’m not going to spell them
out in public for obvious reasons.

Not obvious really unless you’ve developed a new home security system that no one knows about? Everything you won’t spell out in public is already known by burglars and most people here. Don’t worry about it.

I see, so you can vouch for every burglar can you?

He's right, I know stuff to do which If I put it on here it would put me at a disadvantage. If you want the bottom line go see your local crime prevention officer.

[anonymous-user]

227bhp said:

I see, so you can vouch for every burglar can you?

He's right, I know stuff to do which If I put it on here it would put me at a disadvantage. If you want the bottom line go see your local crime prevention officer.

Now you’re worrying about things that they already know. You’ll be talking about known unknowns and unknown knowns soon.

[p1esk]

mikeiow said:

keirik said:

Burglary isn't Good, but as I get older I think I'd prefer that paramedics and other emergency services can get in ky house if they need to.

I don't want to die because I've turned my house into fort knox.

LOL! I think I'm with you on this!

I can't say I'm drawn to the 'fortress' approach at all, but it could be a problem if somebody living alone were to be taken seriously ill.

[p1esk]

Andy-SP2 said:

My late wife grew up in Rhodesia and always had 3 German shepherds after the political situation changed.. Over there, if someone was planning to burgle the place they'd just put poison meat down for the dogs

For ideas about home security, look towards the South Africa https://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/176619-how...

Wasn't it SA where one method of deterring car hijackers was to have a flame thrower mounted under the door sills?

[dmsims]

ghost83 said:

All glass has safety film on it

What did you use ?

[condor]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

condor said:

Surprised no one has mentioned electronic gates to the property. There are properties that have locked gates and a slot for post/newspapers so no one need visit the house at all...unless invited , of course.

But you need to leave them open on bin day, and when workmen are expected, and for guests, and for the courier than needs a signature. And so on.
I'm not saying they're not a good idea, but you need to be careful that your security measures don't end up becoming a ball-ache for you and everyone else going about their normal business; if they do, you don't use them and then they're not worth having.

If you haven't got staff who will sort these issues then you could have a lockable side gate, -obviously left unlocked when expecting couriers or workmen. Bins are usually left just outside of the property or on property boundary.

[ghost83]

dmsims said:

What did you use ?

Don’t know what it’s called I called up the window tint place and said I wanted the glass security film that couldn’t easily be broke and they came and did it and charged £25 a window

[Viperzs]

My parents' house has always had metal shutters on all the downstairs windows, we have CCTV, 2 old bank safes and our burglar alarm is connected to BT redcare and the police.

Works well for us, although the police have only ever needed to attend false alarms...

[V8mate]

p1esk said:

mikeiow said:

keirik said:

Burglary isn't Good, but as I get older I think I'd prefer that paramedics and other emergency services can get in ky house if they need to.

I don't want to die because I've turned my house into fort knox.

LOL! I think I'm with you on this!

I can't say I'm drawn to the 'fortress' approach at all, but it could be a problem if somebody living alone were to be taken seriously ill.

I guess that only really applies if you live alone, in which case you can leave a key with a neighbour or social services?

[rdjohn]

After having our grounds fully open for the last 12-years, we decided to install gates to offer some protection.

The gates, 4.5m x 1.8m and 160kg of Aluminium were stollen in December.

Now we are installing a serious CCTV system. It’s a slippery slope. Perhaps the first rule is not to stand out.

[p1esk]

V8mate said:

p1esk said:

mikeiow said:

keirik said:

Burglary isn't Good, but as I get older I think I'd prefer that paramedics and other emergency services can get in ky house if they need to.

I don't want to die because I've turned my house into fort knox.

LOL! I think I'm with you on this!

I can't say I'm drawn to the 'fortress' approach at all, but it could be a problem if somebody living alone were to be taken seriously ill.

I guess that only really applies if you live alone, in which case you can leave a key with a neighbour or social services?

Even those who don't live alone could be alone in the house for appreciable periods while their spouse or (equivalent) is out shopping or whatever.

Neighbours are not always at home, and it could take quite a while to locate and obtain the key from the social services department.

Sorry, not trying to be awkward, but it doesn't seem easy to have the problem fully covered.

[V8mate]

p1esk said:

V8mate said:

p1esk said:

mikeiow said:

keirik said:

Burglary isn't Good, but as I get older I think I'd prefer that paramedics and other emergency services can get in ky house if they need to.

I don't want to die because I've turned my house into fort knox.

LOL! I think I'm with you on this!

I can't say I'm drawn to the 'fortress' approach at all, but it could be a problem if somebody living alone were to be taken seriously ill.

I guess that only really applies if you live alone, in which case you can leave a key with a neighbour or social services?

Even those who don't live alone could be alone in the house for appreciable periods while their spouse or (equivalent) is out shopping or whatever.

Neighbours are not always at home, and it could take quite a while to locate and obtain the key from the social services department.

Sorry, not trying to be awkward, but it doesn't seem easy to have the problem fully covered.

But in that case how would anyone know to come and help you?

[p1stonhead]

rdjohn said:

After having our grounds fully open for the last 12-years, we decided to install gates to offer some protection.

The gates, 4.5m x 1.8m and 160kg of Aluminium were stollen in December.

Now we are installing a serious CCTV system. It’s a slippery slope. Perhaps the first rule is not to stand out.

Yeah bit soft for gates . Good thing you changed them to aluminium in the new year!

[p1esk]

V8mate said:

p1esk said:

V8mate said:

p1esk said:

mikeiow said:

keirik said:

Burglary isn't Good, but as I get older I think I'd prefer that paramedics and other emergency services can get in ky house if they need to.

I don't want to die because I've turned my house into fort knox.

LOL! I think I'm with you on this!

I can't say I'm drawn to the 'fortress' approach at all, but it could be a problem if somebody living alone were to be taken seriously ill.

I guess that only really applies if you live alone, in which case you can leave a key with a neighbour or social services?

Even those who don't live alone could be alone in the house for appreciable periods while their spouse or (equivalent) is out shopping or whatever.

Neighbours are not always at home, and it could take quite a while to locate and obtain the key from the social services department.

Sorry, not trying to be awkward, but it doesn't seem easy to have the problem fully covered.

But in that case how would anyone know to come and help you?

In some cases a vulnerable person needing assistance might have access to some means of communication that would be sufficient to highlight his/her difficulty, so long as they're not unconscious etc.

[V8mate]

p1esk said:

V8mate said:

p1esk said:

V8mate said:

p1esk said:

mikeiow said:

keirik said:

Burglary isn't Good, but as I get older I think I'd prefer that paramedics and other emergency services can get in ky house if they need to.

I don't want to die because I've turned my house into fort knox.

LOL! I think I'm with you on this!

I can't say I'm drawn to the 'fortress' approach at all, but it could be a problem if somebody living alone were to be taken seriously ill.

I guess that only really applies if you live alone, in which case you can leave a key with a neighbour or social services?

Even those who don't live alone could be alone in the house for appreciable periods while their spouse or (equivalent) is out shopping or whatever.

Neighbours are not always at home, and it could take quite a while to locate and obtain the key from the social services department.

Sorry, not trying to be awkward, but it doesn't seem easy to have the problem fully covered.

But in that case how would anyone know to come and help you?

In some cases a vulnerable person needing assistance might have access to some means of communication that would be sufficient to highlight his/her difficulty, so long as they're not unconscious etc.

I think you're tying yourself up in 'what if' knots.

[p1esk]

V8mate said:

p1esk said:

V8mate said:

p1esk said:

V8mate said:

p1esk said:

mikeiow said:

keirik said:

Burglary isn't Good, but as I get older I think I'd prefer that paramedics and other emergency services can get in ky house if they need to.

I don't want to die because I've turned my house into fort knox.

LOL! I think I'm with you on this!

I can't say I'm drawn to the 'fortress' approach at all, but it could be a problem if somebody living alone were to be taken seriously ill.

I guess that only really applies if you live alone, in which case you can leave a key with a neighbour or social services?

Even those who don't live alone could be alone in the house for appreciable periods while their spouse or (equivalent) is out shopping or whatever.

Neighbours are not always at home, and it could take quite a while to locate and obtain the key from the social services department.

Sorry, not trying to be awkward, but it doesn't seem easy to have the problem fully covered.

But in that case how would anyone know to come and help you?

In some cases a vulnerable person needing assistance might have access to some means of communication that would be sufficient to highlight his/her difficulty, so long as they're not unconscious etc.

I think you're tying yourself up in 'what if' knots.

If you say so. We're not getting anywhere, so I'll leave it at that.

[Prawo Jazdy]

Toltec said:

We have anti-ramraid posts etc. at work and an internal cell with steel reinforced concrete walls.

Christ, and Gregg’s isn’t even that expensive.

[eliot]

Faz50 said:

eliot said:

Re. Dogs
When you are out walking the dog or on holiday with the dog - who’s looking afer the house?

There’s plenty of measures you can take without getting a dog - i’m not going to spell them
out in public for obvious reasons.

Not obvious really unless you’ve developed a new home security system that no one knows about? Everything you won’t spell out in public is already known by burglars and most people here. Don’t worry about it.

I’m referring to technology based solutions - which are off the shelf - but conected, combined and customised to achieve the desired result. Nothing secret squirrel or anything - just time spent around secure environments and using the same kit, along with my own configuration which I suspect is fairly unique - or perhaps not, but likewise anyone else with half a brain doesn’t spell out such things.
I’ve never seen anyone else outline anything that comes close on similar threads. The only thing i see is the default ‘get a dog’ comment which is why I responded.

[V8mate]

eliot said:

Interesting topic, OP!

I'd like to contribute to the discussion by saying that I know something you don't know... and my lips are sealed.

Cheers! Nice one.

[King Herald]

I had a friend burgled in Nuneaton a couple of months ago. Thieves climbed the conservatory and used a crowbar to force open the double glazed windows. Standard form of entry, the cops told him. They also did the neighbours house.

The above occurred late afternoon, about 6:30 he reckons, as they had gone out 3pm in daylight, come home in the dark, and not left any lights on. Front and back curtains were open, so anybody could see right through the house and see it was deserted.

My dads garage got done a few weeks ago, mum had left the door unlocked, so no break in per se. The thieving acrotes came up the drive, through the back gate and took a large petrol motor mower and a pressure washer. They must have had a van in the street as the house on on a fairly big and well lit main road.

I have put a big solid padlock on my workshop and there are already three automatic lights in the back yard. And two big German Shelherds in the house.

We leave lights on when we go out, make sure everything is locked, doors and windows.

I drive a diesel Mundeo, so not too worried about home invasion to get the keys to that....