Estate agent being cheeky, am I wrong?

Estate agent being cheeky, am I wrong?

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bad company

18,724 posts

267 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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Coincidentally I have had 2 estate agents round to my mums flat this morning (she died last week). In both cases there are no fees to pay as long as we give them sole agency for 3 months.

mcflurry

9,103 posts

254 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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I asked my EA friend this question.

Whilst it's only a sample size of one, he said they would send up a follow up letter or 2, but not take it much further, as they could spend the same time more effectively getting another client sale, rather than chasing up an old bill that may or may not be paid.

(YMMV)

BrabusMog

20,222 posts

187 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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How have you agreed to a fee if you haven't signed a contract?

bad company

18,724 posts

267 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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BrabusMog said:
How have you agreed to a fee if you haven't signed a contract?
You can enter into a verbal contract. Mind you the op said he hasn’t.

cb31

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1,144 posts

137 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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bad company said:
You can enter into a verbal contract. Mind you the op said he hasn’t.
Not quite, I suppose I did enter into a verbal contract as we discussed that I give them selling fees of 1%+vat, he also said that we could leave at any time. What he didn't say was the leaving costs which is my issue, if he had I would have gone with another agent on a no-sell no-fee basis. I don't know whether it was due to incompetence or less than perfect transparency.

I am now minded to just pay up even though I think their business practices are absolutely awful, events like this just make me think the whole estate agent game is full of chancers.

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

158 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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cb31 said:
business practices are absolutely awful
That's estate agents for you smile

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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I am now minded to just pay up even though I think their business practices are absolutely awful, events like this just make me think the whole estate agent game is full of chancers.
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No, no, no.

Don't be minded to pay, tell them to do one and move on with your life.

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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cb31 said:
... make me think the whole estate agent game is full of chancers.
You're not wrong there. wink

BrabusMog

20,222 posts

187 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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cb31 said:
bad company said:
You can enter into a verbal contract. Mind you the op said he hasn’t.
Not quite, I suppose I did enter into a verbal contract as we discussed that I give them selling fees of 1%+vat, he also said that we could leave at any time. What he didn't say was the leaving costs which is my issue, if he had I would have gone with another agent on a no-sell no-fee basis. I don't know whether it was due to incompetence or less than perfect transparency.

I am now minded to just pay up even though I think their business practices are absolutely awful, events like this just make me think the whole estate agent game is full of chancers.
I'd say that if you haven't signed anything and they haven't sold your house, you're not really required to pay anything. I'd understand the estate agents coming after you if you'd agreed to certain things in writing but, if you haven't, I'd be telling them to swing.

Black_S3

2,694 posts

189 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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mcflurry said:
I asked my EA friend this question.

Whilst it's only a sample size of one, he said they would send up a follow up letter or 2, but not take it much further, as they could spend the same time more effectively getting another client sale, rather than chasing up an old bill that may or may not be paid.

(YMMV)
You're probably not wrong there, unless it's a big national EA with a dedicated team for this type of thing. Getting any of the staff in the small EAs to do anything that doesn't earn them commission is near impossible.

bad company

18,724 posts

267 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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cb31 said:
bad company said:
You can enter into a verbal contract. Mind you the op said he hasn’t.
Not quite, I suppose I did enter into a verbal contract as we discussed that I give them selling fees of 1%+vat, he also said that we could leave at any time. What he didn't say was the leaving costs which is my issue, if he had I would have gone with another agent on a no-sell no-fee basis. I don't know whether it was due to incompetence or less than perfect transparency.

I am now minded to just pay up even though I think their business practices are absolutely awful, events like this just make me think the whole estate agent game is full of chancers.
If they didn’t tell you about the £300 for marketing that wasn’t part of the verbal contract.

I wouldn’t pay them.

Ricky146a

307 posts

77 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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Do not pay them!

You agreed to selling fees when they sold your property. They did not sell.
You did not agree to marketing fees so they cannot charge you.
You did not sign a contract.
You did not see a contract.

You gave them their required 2 weeks notice.

All the talk above about verbal contracts is just that - talk. The only way that could be resolved would be a court hearing and they will not risk that for many of the reasons that others have posted above.

Do not pay!

V8RX7

26,951 posts

264 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Did they knock on the door of your house and beg to sell it,
Pretty much.

The last 2 homes I've sold I've had loads of letters asking me to let them sell my house.


surveyor

17,876 posts

185 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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Ah this reminds me of the good old days, my first job in the family firm.. an estate agency in a mining town or two..

This being 2001 things were tough.. clients had two contacts to choose from either 2% inclusive adds or 1.25% and £35 per add. Most went for the cheaper option.

This worked welll until we closed an office and terminated the contract on quite a few houses that were never going to sell in that market.

Their were a few screams of outrage when the advertising bills were hitting the doormat. Still contract was contract and most were collected....

bad company

18,724 posts

267 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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I’m struggling to understand why to op came on here for advice and when almost all of us rightly said no need to pay it looks like he’s going to.

confused

superlightr

12,862 posts

264 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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bad company said:
I’m struggling to understand why to op came on here for advice and when almost all of us rightly said no need to pay it looks like he’s going to.

confused
exactly.

Also as others have said its part of their membership of the property ombudsman that they have a written contract signed by their clients.