Scalpings and cement?

[Black_S3]

Blackpuddin said:

Funny isn't it. I've been reporting a fritzing streetlamp for literally years, they are very good at responding to that (albeit dozens of times as they don't seem able to effect a permanent fix) but my reports about the state of the Public Footpath meet with a stony silence despite it being just as valid and going through exactly the same reporting process. I expect it's because it's a bit harder.

So your road has streetlights but is unadopted? Never heard of that before!

[Blackpuddin]

Black_S3 said:

Blackpuddin said:

Funny isn't it. I've been reporting a fritzing streetlamp for literally years, they are very good at responding to that (albeit dozens of times as they don't seem able to effect a permanent fix) but my reports about the state of the Public Footpath meet with a stony silence despite it being just as valid and going through exactly the same reporting process. I expect it's because it's a bit harder.

So your road has streetlights but is unadopted? Never heard of that before!

It (just the one!) was put in as a result of Mrs B's tireless campaigning!

[V8RX7]

I like to use road planings.

I pay £100 for a 20T load whenever they are in the area.

If you drive SLOWLY they are fine, if you drive fast / wheelspin etc obviously you end up with potholes - but they are easily filled in.

I just use a vibrating plate (as I have one) but a roller will compact better.

[Blackpuddin]

We used a one-man hire roller last time, tbh it didn't seem to keep it down any better or worse. Might see if anyone local has a manual tamper they can lend me. Handy for releasing physical tension as I think of all the neighbours who I can say with some degree of certainty won't be helping me.

[tokyo_mb]

Cement stabilisation will work - but I think there's more to it than just adding some cement dust to what you use to fill in the pot holes.

We had these people http://www.roadreclamation.co.uk/cement-stabilisat... in to improve our 250m farm track (which had turned into two rutted wheel ways with grass up the middle). They ripped up the existing track, added about 100 tonnes of MOT, a lot of cement, and then floated a good camber onto the wetted surface - resulting in a lane that throws the water nicely (the absence of good camber is normally the main cause of pot-holing).

Three year's on it has proved to have reasonable longevity despite a reasonable amount of lorry and tractor traffic.

[Blackpuddin]

That sounds like a brilliant solution for our lane which suffers badly from water accumulation, mainly because there is no drainage. Water just flows in from the adjoining fields and sticks around for ages. A central high point running down the lane would help I guess but in reality we just get big transverse ridges as the rubble gets pushed forward and back from the potholes by traffic.
It'll never happen here because there is no community spirit or will to contribute. I've been wondering about approaching the council with the idea of them doing the work (which would hopefully allow them to adopt the lane) and the residents paying for it over a period of time through a compulsory uplift in their council tax. Has anybody heard of such an approach working?

Edited by Blackpuddin on Tuesday 6th February 20:00

[Chrisgr31]

tokyo_mb said:

Cement stabilisation will work - but I think there's more to it than just adding some cement dust to what you use to fill in the pot holes.

We had these people http://www.roadreclamation.co.uk/cement-stabilisat... in to improve our 250m farm track (which had turned into two rutted wheel ways with grass up the middle). They ripped up the existing track, added about 100 tonnes of MOT, a lot of cement, and then floated a good camber onto the wetted surface - resulting in a lane that throws the water nicely (the absence of good camber is normally the main cause of pot-holing).

Three year's on it has proved to have reasonable longevity despite a reasonable amount of lorry and tractor traffic.

I was going to suggest stabilisation as well, a neighbour is in to it. Basically they send a machine through that churns it all up, adds cements and relays it. Roll it, job done!

[Blackpuddin]

I believe the Type 1 scalpings has some sort of additive in it?

[tokyo_mb]

Have managed to find a few pictures of our track pre- and post- cement stabilisation:

Before:


After:


While it does look a bit stark in the landscape immediately after the work, the surface weathered such that it was a lot more in keeping within a few months.

Detail of surface:


Note that last shot is before the surface had worn, which removes a lot of the dusty surface and leaves a smoother finish.

We only have one pot hole forming after four years - and that is where the stabilised road meets an existing concrete bridge, so isn't really the fault of the method.