Pro and cons of thumb turn eurocylinder locks
Discussion
Evanivitch said:
Sgt Bilko said:
Don’t wish to sound rude or evasive, but that’s not something I can share as it was training through work. I say training, more like a two minute demo and practise.
Is that true of all thumb turns or cheaper models?
dogbucket said:
The Avocet ABS thumbturn renders the external key lock inoperable if the thumbturn is left 'engaged' or half turned. Not a big issue for a rear door, but on our front door it has caught me out a few times as we have a pad handle so need a key to open once it is pulled shut.
They were notorious for this. I think they've redesigned them to fix this?I don’t think you can bypass a Yale cylinder or a union
I have had success with era and cheep un branded ones.
1.5mm piano wire and a pin vice, I once opened 9 flat doors in 15 mins (someone squirted super glue in the key way) all had security rated handles with cheep thumb turn cylinders
I have had success with era and cheep un branded ones.
1.5mm piano wire and a pin vice, I once opened 9 flat doors in 15 mins (someone squirted super glue in the key way) all had security rated handles with cheep thumb turn cylinders
Evanivitch said:
Sgt Bilko said:
I haven’t done a comprehensive study in the matter but I’m aware lock turn manufacturers are aware and adapting designs. Trouble is there’s a lottttt of stock out there that needs shifting I bet so, well, you know....
I've emailed Yale on the matter.Sgt Bilko said:
PositronicRay said:
Easy or what!We’ve just had an attempted break in they didn’t manage to get passed the inner laminated pane on both front and rear doors.
Couple of people mentioned the thumbscrew was the only weak link of our doors so we decided to change them to key lock inside as well, I hide a key out of reach/view.
Our are Assa locks.
Couple of people mentioned the thumbscrew was the only weak link of our doors so we decided to change them to key lock inside as well, I hide a key out of reach/view.
Our are Assa locks.
Ashtray83 said:
I don’t think you can bypass a Yale cylinder or a union
I have had success with era and cheep un branded ones.
1.5mm piano wire and a pin vice, I once opened 9 flat doors in 15 mins (someone squirted super glue in the key way) all had security rated handles with cheep thumb turn cylinders
Hence why the Yale System is a 2+1 star system at least. Completely pointless if you have 1 or the other.I have had success with era and cheep un branded ones.
1.5mm piano wire and a pin vice, I once opened 9 flat doors in 15 mins (someone squirted super glue in the key way) all had security rated handles with cheep thumb turn cylinders
P.s. I'm not a Yale rep. I just spent a bit of money with them recently.
Evanivitch said:
Ashtray83 said:
I don’t think you can bypass a Yale cylinder or a union
I have had success with era and cheep un branded ones.
1.5mm piano wire and a pin vice, I once opened 9 flat doors in 15 mins (someone squirted super glue in the key way) all had security rated handles with cheep thumb turn cylinders
Hence why the Yale System is a 2+1 star system at least. Completely pointless if you have 1 or the other.I have had success with era and cheep un branded ones.
1.5mm piano wire and a pin vice, I once opened 9 flat doors in 15 mins (someone squirted super glue in the key way) all had security rated handles with cheep thumb turn cylinders
P.s. I'm not a Yale rep. I just spent a bit of money with them recently.
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