'Recyling centres' aka tips
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Up Aberdeen the tips are free for cars, but not for vans. I have a flat in the city center, with one of those massive rubbish bins over the road. I would say it gets filled once a week by commercial vans just emptying their rubbish into the bin.
I did watch one where a bloke came along on his pedal bike, saw the bin over-flowing, pulled out an old gas boiler, put it on his shoulder, and RODE off!
I did watch one where a bloke came along on his pedal bike, saw the bin over-flowing, pulled out an old gas boiler, put it on his shoulder, and RODE off!
GR_TVR said:
hyphen said:
B'stard Child said:
Bloody 7 series doesn't have fold down rear seats or even a ski hatch such a useless load carrier
BMW charge extra for folding I think, hence rare.(If it is - someone let me know as I'd discounted it as an option because of this!)
As usual whenever local councils are discussed it always surprises me that no two councils do the same thing as there must be big savings to be made by copying successful systems and combining services with nearby authorities.
Our local recycling centre has skips for everything you can think of including tyres and assistants to show you the right skip and help you unload. There is no charge for anything and pickups and small vans can get a free permit that allows you to use the place 12 times a year.
Our local recycling centre has skips for everything you can think of including tyres and assistants to show you the right skip and help you unload. There is no charge for anything and pickups and small vans can get a free permit that allows you to use the place 12 times a year.
Our local tip is meant to charge for DIY waste but doesn't seem to bother if it's busy. If you are asked for payment they get very confused if you offer to pay by card and usually just tell you to pay next time. I may be wrong but I suspect most of the money just gets pocketed by the employees as there seems to be little in the way of receipts and they appear to pluck figures out of thin air.
My parent's tip takes tyres for free, I gave the last couple to my Dad to dispose of and he somehow managed to get £15 for them from a part worn place on the way to the tip - I certainly wouldn't have fitted them.
The last couple of carpets have gone on Freecycle and been collected within a few days.
My parent's tip takes tyres for free, I gave the last couple to my Dad to dispose of and he somehow managed to get £15 for them from a part worn place on the way to the tip - I certainly wouldn't have fitted them.
The last couple of carpets have gone on Freecycle and been collected within a few days.
Our LA is good in this respect. Any 'normal' car can take waste. They say they will check ID but never do. Vans go on the weigh bridge. I saw some dude turn up in a huge chrysler people carrier. 8 wooden doors came out the back. He was clearly a builder but because he turned up in something other than a van, he went straight through
But all these stories of LAs charging etc etc just makes me think it's merely a matter of time before my LA goes the same way.
Band E council tax is just shy of £2100
But all these stories of LAs charging etc etc just makes me think it's merely a matter of time before my LA goes the same way.
Band E council tax is just shy of £2100
hyphen said:
Page 33, Both Through Loading System and Ski bag loading are options:https://www.bmw.co.uk/pdfs/price-lists/bmw_7_series_price_list_april_2018.pdf
Thanks! Missed that on the online config.Folding seats is still the preference so it's a shame that you can't get that...a 30x20cm opening is fairly limiting
Our local dump went the same way. Turned up with a car full of my stripped out bathroom to be told i needed to pay to dispose of what they more or less deemed commerical waste. It was my own bathroom from a DIY job and was stuffed into my car as using a van (much easier) is a big no no and adds a whole layer of complication with refused entry.
What i have noticed is our tip is no longer council run but the whole operation is in private hands, using the old local council public run site.
The local council dont give a toss. Lower services for the general public, contractor making himself millions, all waste that can be recycled goes to his recycling centre and no doubt charges the council again. Very little is wasted even old bricks and tiles are ground down to dust and used for something.
It is a good time to be in waste management if local councillors are on your christmas card list.
What i have noticed is our tip is no longer council run but the whole operation is in private hands, using the old local council public run site.
The local council dont give a toss. Lower services for the general public, contractor making himself millions, all waste that can be recycled goes to his recycling centre and no doubt charges the council again. Very little is wasted even old bricks and tiles are ground down to dust and used for something.
It is a good time to be in waste management if local councillors are on your christmas card list.
Edited by M3333 on Wednesday 25th April 11:13
The resulting increase in fly tipping is very unfortunate, the councils and the Police (what Police?) don't do enough to prevent it when they could do a lot more. It's just another example of 'Broken Britain'.
The other issue which you won't like is actually taking more responsibility for your own actions.
You want:
All the best tools just like a tradesman.
All the info available to them for you too.
The trade discounts.
But when it comes to paying for a skip like they have to? Oh no, we can't have that, let's go on the internet and have a cry about it.
If you want to act like 'Bob the Builder' then do it properly, get a skip and then all your rubbish will go to the correct place an is often recycled too.
The other issue which you won't like is actually taking more responsibility for your own actions.
You want:
All the best tools just like a tradesman.
All the info available to them for you too.
The trade discounts.
But when it comes to paying for a skip like they have to? Oh no, we can't have that, let's go on the internet and have a cry about it.
If you want to act like 'Bob the Builder' then do it properly, get a skip and then all your rubbish will go to the correct place an is often recycled too.
227bhp said:
dhutch said:
Its a fair point, but hence my comments about locating these commercial waste places.
I couldn't tell you where my nearest one is or what it cost, neither could the guys and the local tip.
Daniel
No, but neither do genuine tradepersons, they just order a skip.I couldn't tell you where my nearest one is or what it cost, neither could the guys and the local tip.
Daniel
Surprised at some of the jobs-worth rules that some people have to deal with. Our local tip takes more or less anything. It's open 8-6 everyday (apart from Christmas day and New Years day).
The only thing I have had refused is a truck tyre we found whilst clearing out my in-law's overgrown garden when they first moved in. We popped into a haulage company on the same industrial estate and one of the guys in their chucked it on their pile for the price of a round of drinks.
The only thing I have had refused is a truck tyre we found whilst clearing out my in-law's overgrown garden when they first moved in. We popped into a haulage company on the same industrial estate and one of the guys in their chucked it on their pile for the price of a round of drinks.
Last time I went to the tip I went in my land rover 110.
Council worker walked over to, and I thought he was going to talk to me about my landy(ex army landy all kitted up), nope, told me it was classed as a commercial!
I pointed to the car in front of me and he said 'I know mate, daft rules, but cctv everywhere, sorry'.
The car in front of me?
A land rover discovery with the seats folded down full to the brim!
Council worker walked over to, and I thought he was going to talk to me about my landy(ex army landy all kitted up), nope, told me it was classed as a commercial!
I pointed to the car in front of me and he said 'I know mate, daft rules, but cctv everywhere, sorry'.
The car in front of me?
A land rover discovery with the seats folded down full to the brim!
rambo19 said:
Last time I went to the tip I went in my land rover 110.
Council worker walked over to, and I thought he was going to talk to me about my landy(ex army landy all kitted up), nope, told me it was classed as a commercial!
I pointed to the car in front of me and he said 'I know mate, daft rules, but cctv everywhere, sorry'.
The car in front of me?
A land rover discovery with the seats folded down full to the brim!
What was it on the V5?Council worker walked over to, and I thought he was going to talk to me about my landy(ex army landy all kitted up), nope, told me it was classed as a commercial!
I pointed to the car in front of me and he said 'I know mate, daft rules, but cctv everywhere, sorry'.
The car in front of me?
A land rover discovery with the seats folded down full to the brim!
It's a common issue on the Severn Bridge for Defender owners.
Evanivitch said:
rambo19 said:
Last time I went to the tip I went in my land rover 110.
Council worker walked over to, and I thought he was going to talk to me about my landy(ex army landy all kitted up), nope, told me it was classed as a commercial!
I pointed to the car in front of me and he said 'I know mate, daft rules, but cctv everywhere, sorry'.
The car in front of me?
A land rover discovery with the seats folded down full to the brim!
What was it on the V5?Council worker walked over to, and I thought he was going to talk to me about my landy(ex army landy all kitted up), nope, told me it was classed as a commercial!
I pointed to the car in front of me and he said 'I know mate, daft rules, but cctv everywhere, sorry'.
The car in front of me?
A land rover discovery with the seats folded down full to the brim!
It's a common issue on the Severn Bridge for Defender owners.
Flooring wise, I used to work in a flooring shop, and we dealt with a lot of insurance jobs. Carpet was dealt with by the contents insurance (as deemed to be a household good that you would take with you - and indeed this was quite normal up until a few decades ago) hard flooring (laminate/wood/tiles/vinyl) was covered by buildings insurance.
Had a few people who told me that they were surprised that they were actually covered when they came in, as they only had buildings cover. Also had a few surprised the other way that they had to pay 2 excesses following a flood, one for the carpet in the lounge and one for the vinyl tiles in the kitchen. We were often the one's to collect the excess in insurance jobs as we were one of the very few retailers in the chain, near the end of the process, and could loose the excess if required (i.e. downgrade the carpet to come in £200 less than assessed value)
Had a few people who told me that they were surprised that they were actually covered when they came in, as they only had buildings cover. Also had a few surprised the other way that they had to pay 2 excesses following a flood, one for the carpet in the lounge and one for the vinyl tiles in the kitchen. We were often the one's to collect the excess in insurance jobs as we were one of the very few retailers in the chain, near the end of the process, and could loose the excess if required (i.e. downgrade the carpet to come in £200 less than assessed value)
227bhp said:
The resulting increase in fly tipping is very unfortunate, the councils and the Police (what Police?) don't do enough to prevent it when they could do a lot more.
I had a load of building rubbish fly-tipped in a field gateway a few weeks ago. On public land, the local authority has a duty to clear it away, but not private land. I reported it to my LA anyway, but also the police who initially refused to issue a crime number - though they did eventually after repeated reports from me (via their website, after I could get no response from 101). Fat lot of good that did.So I loaded most of it into a small trailer (for which I have a tip permit) and drove off to the tip 9 miles away - only to find it closed on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Back home with trailer, unhitch as I couldn't get down there again for a few days, then when I did eventually get it all down there and unloaded some of it I was told that it's classified as commercial waste so I'd have to pay cash (as well as the time and fuel already incurred) to get rid of someone else's rubbish ! Back home again and sort through it more carefully - rubble can go down on a farm track, timber will be burnt leaving just roofing felt to get back down there some time.
Stiff letter sent to MP, local councillors (who happen to be farmers) and the police authority; response received from MP and one of the councillors basically saying how much sympathy they have.
gothatway said:
I had a load of building rubbish fly-tipped in a field gateway a few weeks ago. On public land, the local authority has a duty to clear it away, but not private land. I reported it to my LA anyway, but also the police who initially refused to issue a crime number - though they did eventually after repeated reports from me (via their website, after I could get no response from 101). Fat lot of good that did.
So I loaded most of it into a small trailer (for which I have a tip permit) and drove off to the tip 9 miles away - only to find it closed on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Back home with trailer, unhitch as I couldn't get down there again for a few days, then when I did eventually get it all down there and unloaded some of it I was told that it's classified as commercial waste so I'd have to pay cash (as well as the time and fuel already incurred) to get rid of someone else's rubbish ! Back home again and sort through it more carefully - rubble can go down on a farm track, timber will be burnt leaving just roofing felt to get back down there some time.
Stiff letter sent to MP, local councillors (who happen to be farmers) and the police authority; response received from MP and one of the councillors basically saying how much sympathy they have.
Unfortunately, sympathy is all they can offer. It is absolutely a tragic state affairs, and there's no-one who believes the the outcome which the law currently drives is a fair one, but no-one has yet come up with a workable solution to replace it. If the State indemnifies you for the cost of flytipping, you'll see an escalation, not a decline.So I loaded most of it into a small trailer (for which I have a tip permit) and drove off to the tip 9 miles away - only to find it closed on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Back home with trailer, unhitch as I couldn't get down there again for a few days, then when I did eventually get it all down there and unloaded some of it I was told that it's classified as commercial waste so I'd have to pay cash (as well as the time and fuel already incurred) to get rid of someone else's rubbish ! Back home again and sort through it more carefully - rubble can go down on a farm track, timber will be burnt leaving just roofing felt to get back down there some time.
Stiff letter sent to MP, local councillors (who happen to be farmers) and the police authority; response received from MP and one of the councillors basically saying how much sympathy they have.
Defra has offered up a couple of new strategies over the last 18 months, but neither strike me as getting to the crux of the problem.
If I were the PM, I'd start by making being 'of no fixed abode' an offence. Removing the nation's peripatetic community would certainly have a significant positive impact!
gothatway said:
I had a load of building rubbish fly-tipped in a field gateway a few weeks ago. On public land, the local authority has a duty to clear it away, but not private land. I reported it to my LA anyway, but also the police who initially refused to issue a crime number - though they did eventually after repeated reports from me (via their website, after I could get no response from 101). Fat lot of good that did.
So I loaded most of it into a small trailer (for which I have a tip permit) and drove off to the tip 9 miles away - only to find it closed on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Back home with trailer, unhitch as I couldn't get down there again for a few days, then when I did eventually get it all down there and unloaded some of it I was told that it's classified as commercial waste so I'd have to pay cash (as well as the time and fuel already incurred) to get rid of someone else's rubbish ! Back home again and sort through it more carefully - rubble can go down on a farm track, timber will be burnt leaving just roofing felt to get back down there some time.
Stiff letter sent to MP, local councillors (who happen to be farmers) and the police authority; response received from MP and one of the councillors basically saying how much sympathy they have.
It's a ridiculous problem, effectively punishing the victim when they're trying to do the responsible thing. The irony is, I imagine if you'd simply shifted the rubbish a few feet (ie. off your land) then it would have been the council's responsibility, and would have cost them a lot more to deal with.So I loaded most of it into a small trailer (for which I have a tip permit) and drove off to the tip 9 miles away - only to find it closed on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Back home with trailer, unhitch as I couldn't get down there again for a few days, then when I did eventually get it all down there and unloaded some of it I was told that it's classified as commercial waste so I'd have to pay cash (as well as the time and fuel already incurred) to get rid of someone else's rubbish ! Back home again and sort through it more carefully - rubble can go down on a farm track, timber will be burnt leaving just roofing felt to get back down there some time.
Stiff letter sent to MP, local councillors (who happen to be farmers) and the police authority; response received from MP and one of the councillors basically saying how much sympathy they have.
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