Open plan on deeds..... fence erecting?

Open plan on deeds..... fence erecting?

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Trustmeimadoctor

12,651 posts

156 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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M12MTR said:
Trustmeimadoctor said:
Nice car by the way, lapis blue?
Thanks. Midnight Black / Chili Red JCW.

I have a Porsche and a class Mini too...... I honestly think my cars are his problem tbh.
It looked blue in that light. If you have the pro exhaust that could be it wink

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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M12MTR said:
Yes that trench is my property!
Well park your cars in such a way that he can't do anything without you moving them.
Hopefully that will mean he will have to talk to you.

These things can get out of hand really quickly so if it gets into a slanging match just walk away.
And if you call him a and the coppers call round just deny it.
"Yes, but" gets people in trouble.

Chocmonster

919 posts

212 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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M12MTR said:
My solicitor said (last year when I thought he was going to do it then)
"Deeds have covenant stating NO fences walls shrubbery to cause a barrier at all from front of house".
My parents when through this exact same thing with one of their neighbours over the past couple of years.

Short answer is if the covenant says no fence then no fence is allowed.

We fought them via solicitors letters (not cheap!) the fence finally came down again the day before court papers were going to be lodged.

Their neighbour then put long but low troughs along where he says the the boundary line is, one of which his wife ran over with her car the other day...





PositronicRay

27,066 posts

184 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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M12MTR said:
Thanks Desolate. I wont. I'm measuring the distance from my garage brickwork to my drive. This is my property.
I'm thinking tomorrow to place string on sticks to line up my property on this soil trench he's dug. (as I'm thinking he's going to erect this new fence on Monday when I'm at work). I could be wrong though.

Has he dug up my turf also????? Without my permission.
So where is the boundary?

PositronicRay

27,066 posts

184 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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M12MTR said:
The fence post you can see....... it's about 8" parallel from the concrete drive.
In which case why are you considering poncing about with sticks and string?
Open up some dialogue about concreting your lawn.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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M12MTR said:
Dialogue??? He's an ignorant idiot. His response is "speak to me through a solicitor".

I'm all for sorting amicably..... But he is / has instigated 'Fence gate'. He's a d1ck. I just want to live a quiet life without him trying to bully me.

So not to (ponce about) line my property? Just sit back until he does erect another fence? Or strike first - but this makes me as bad as him no?
As a temporary measure park a car in such a way as to stop him doing anything. Sticks and a bit of string won't do anything

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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I think you're bonkers for letting him build on your side of the boundary in the first place. You need to get him off your lands sharpish. If he wants to build on his side he can crack on. If that strip is yours you have as claim for trespass, similarly if the fence at the back is on your land you have a further claim. Get moving before he just fences your whole garden into his.

PositronicRay

27,066 posts

184 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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This is where Neville Chamberlin went wrong, didn't use sticks and string.


PAUL500

2,638 posts

247 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Boundary disputes can quickly get out of hand and legally expensive, and even if the covenant is in your favour, (which I doubt) you still have to try to enforce it via the courts, again expensive.

My advice, take it on the chin and just widen your drive the other side.

Once he puts up his under 1m fence you will have less contact with him anyway.

DonkeyApple

55,479 posts

170 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Isn’t the real conversation rnerstone f the issue here that he keeps erecting fences on your land?

Covenants tend to be somewhat pointless which is why indemnity insurance is so cheap and so lucrative but if he is continually attempting to steal your land then isn’t that the real point to gun for him on?

I doubt you can stop him putting up fencing and frankly you probably want him to now but he needs to erect his fence on his land.

PositronicRay

27,066 posts

184 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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M12MTR said:
Or I'm thinking of putting my own fence up right next to his if he does. At 2m.

That will block his view right at his main living room window ;-)
You may need planning permission for 2m @ the front, check with LA. A hedge may work however.

Or you could just thank him for widening your drive.

PositronicRay

27,066 posts

184 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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M12MTR said:
Up to 2m no planning permission required. I found this out previously - if not open plan on deeds. Ie if he can erect a fence so can I.

What's good for the goose ......

Let's see what he's got planned.
Front and back often different.

If neighbour erects 2m fence what's the benefit of your own fence a few inches away?

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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M12MTR said:
Ok.

I asked my solicitor last year......... as above...... NO boundary fence at all can be erected according to my deeds.

If that limitation is done by covenant then you need to know who the covenant is in favour of.

If it's in favour of someone else other than yourself then they will have to enforce it.

Not you.

ClaphamGT3

11,318 posts

244 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Dominate the boundary

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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M12MTR said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Dominate the boundary
Please explain further?
It's a comment referencing a post that is PH folklore.

But he is right - don't let the tool next door do anything. Stop him from further development / encroachment by "dominating the boundary"

Gibby88

107 posts

205 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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Dominate the covenant by hammering frozen sausages along the boundary with string.

dickymint

24,427 posts

259 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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Bookmarked cos this is going to be good thumbup

Rosscow

8,779 posts

164 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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OP, I feel for you.

Neighbourly disputes are bad things, everyone just wants a quiet life and having a knob next door doesn't help.

I'd be tempted to get my spade, and dig the strip of your land that he has de-turfed down a further 6" and then concrete it. Stick some re-bar in whilst you're at it.

It's a nice day, start digging! Tell him you're extending your driveway and thanks for starting it for you!

Obviously this makes you no better than him, but if you can't beat them, join them!

caziques

2,582 posts

169 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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I would start talking to the neighbour's solicitor, at £100 an hour you can soon get the costs to stack up - without it costing a penny.

One thing that really annoys solicitors is dealing with a lay litigant - knowing their client will be footing the bill.

Evanivitch

20,180 posts

123 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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Let him build it.

Knock it down.

Leave the pile of bits in his garden with a note.

"I found this growing on my property"