Open plan on deeds..... fence erecting?
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Get yourself down to Wickes and buy some narrow slabs / bricks and lay them into the convenient trench he has dug, marking out your property. If he is the kind of person you say, no doubt he’ll be out in a jiffy to argue. Calmly explain you are just extending your driveway to the limit of your property now he has kindly removed the grass for you.
M12MTR said:
Don't fancy parking a car there whilst I'm at work - I'll come back to damage / scratches I'm sure.
Seems like you are making excuses not to confront him.It can't be that difficult to put something there to stop him. And also to knock on his door to tell him in no uncertain terms not to build a fence on your land.
So far the status quo is that he does whatever the f
k he wants. That will continue if you allow it to.M12MTR said:
Like I said pointless. He's a d1ck. And it would end up in tears I'm sure.
To be frank if the discussion does go badly and you breakdown during he discussion you never know it might change things. To physically see the actual stress your causing someone it would only be a vile person who would would be heartless. M12MTR said:
Not worried at all. I just don't want a confrontation.
Tbh part of me thinks he does want a confrontation . As of my job he may be trying to cause a scene to get me into bother.
Like I said. If he builds a fence (ON HIS PROPERTY just at the edge of the boundary line) then I'll tackle it. Depends what / if he builds eh?
If your worried about what might happen or not or lies etc then CCTV it and have your mobile on voice recorder. Ask another neighbour to join as an independent witness Tbh part of me thinks he does want a confrontation . As of my job he may be trying to cause a scene to get me into bother.
Like I said. If he builds a fence (ON HIS PROPERTY just at the edge of the boundary line) then I'll tackle it. Depends what / if he builds eh?
Expensive - boundary disputes
Your neighbour would appear to have caused damage to your garage by his actions of drilling a hole and bolting a fence post to it.
Do you have building/planning drawings that will show the property boundary positions ?
Title deeds and OS map are only a guide to a boundary line and not definitive.
Well established physical features such as the original fence position or possibly the larger scale drawings showing dimensions would be a help -intrinsic evidence
You own the garage and its concrete foundations.
Boundary is taken at ground level but the concrete footing projection might be over, away from the garage wall, by a small amount, equivalent to what you see at the front of your property ( the earth trench photo.) Not sure the Heaven to Hell principle would apply.
The original well established boundary line - the fence was moved without your approval.
All the best
Your neighbour would appear to have caused damage to your garage by his actions of drilling a hole and bolting a fence post to it.
Do you have building/planning drawings that will show the property boundary positions ?
Title deeds and OS map are only a guide to a boundary line and not definitive.
Well established physical features such as the original fence position or possibly the larger scale drawings showing dimensions would be a help -intrinsic evidence
You own the garage and its concrete foundations.
Boundary is taken at ground level but the concrete footing projection might be over, away from the garage wall, by a small amount, equivalent to what you see at the front of your property ( the earth trench photo.) Not sure the Heaven to Hell principle would apply.
The original well established boundary line - the fence was moved without your approval.
All the best
M12MTR said:
He's built all fences / dug trench when I'm at work so far. What can I do? He'll do it tomorrow I reckon.
So you need to speak to him before you leave for work and tell him he mustn't start any construction work involving the boundary line until he has agreed it with you. If he won't answer tehhe door then leave him a letter.It may be a good idea to mark the actual boundary in some way, a line of raised blocks e.g. with the centre of the blocks on the boundary. The way the builders have left it is a bit odd, you'd have thought they would lay the edge of the concrete along the boundary.
THEres no real point to any cctv. Once the fence is up then that’s it, the neighbour has taken another bit of the OPs land and will sit back and enjoy life knowing he can continue to walk all over the OP whenever he wants. The neighbour knows the OP will not say anything and he knows he will never instruct a solicitor to say anything for him. It seems quite clear that the die is cast.
DonkeyApple said:
THEres no real point to any cctv. Once the fence is up then that’s it, the neighbour has taken another bit of the OPs land and will sit back and enjoy life knowing he can continue to walk all over the OP whenever he wants. The neighbour knows the OP will not say anything and he knows he will never instruct a solicitor to say anything for him. It seems quite clear that the die is cast.
Surely if the fence is built on the OPs land he can remove it?Granfondo said:
DonkeyApple said:
THEres no real point to any cctv. Once the fence is up then that’s it, the neighbour has taken another bit of the OPs land and will sit back and enjoy life knowing he can continue to walk all over the OP whenever he wants. The neighbour knows the OP will not say anything and he knows he will never instruct a solicitor to say anything for him. It seems quite clear that the die is cast.
Surely if the fence is built on the OPs land he can remove it?DonkeyApple said:
It’s wuite clear that this wouldn’t happen though. The neighbour has already announced he is going to build a fence on the OPs land and the OP has done nothing. The neighbour has started prepping the OPs land for this fence and the OP has done nothing. Nothing is going to happen once the fence is up.
Why would anyone accept that especially when given the heads up by he very person going to do it...DonkeyApple said:
The neighbour has already announced he is going to build a fence on the OPs .
The neighbour has done no such thing, he's not in dialogue with him remember?Timber has arrived, and some concrete that may or may not be a few cm over a boundary. Clearly the Neighbour is going to construct something, maybe a lookout tower.
Worth discussing what is and isn't allowed in the front garden with the planning dept. Any other houses on the estate with hedges and fences?
Could just be fence envy. Photos req of this construction Mon evening.
Welshbeef said:
DonkeyApple said:
It’s wuite clear that this wouldn’t happen though. The neighbour has already announced he is going to build a fence on the OPs land and the OP has done nothing. The neighbour has started prepping the OPs land for this fence and the OP has done nothing. Nothing is going to happen once the fence is up.
Why would anyone accept that especially when given the heads up by he very person going to do it...What is unclear having read the entire post, is confirmation that the boundary fence is definitely the OP's and where exactly the boundary line is. It is normal convention that the left side fence would belong to the OP but do the deed plans reflect this (T mark)? Also, this assumed ' 9" from the concrete drive' at the front of the property worries me as it seems a bit odd? Has the OP's garage been built at the same time as the house or is it a later addition that has a wall which was built on the neighbours land (possibly a private agreement by former owners to allow sufficient width for the garage)? If so, were the deeds of both properties amended to reflect this.
The neighbour appears to be a bit arrogant by not asking permission to replace the rear side fence in the first place but he would have every right to erect a new fence on his side of the properties as long as he didn't remove or damage the OP's fence however, all the latest aggravation seems to stem from this.
He has now told the OP to only speak to him through his solicitor so it is escalating and maybe time for some professional advice? Sadly, I think this is going to be expensive.
The neighbour appears to be a bit arrogant by not asking permission to replace the rear side fence in the first place but he would have every right to erect a new fence on his side of the properties as long as he didn't remove or damage the OP's fence however, all the latest aggravation seems to stem from this.
He has now told the OP to only speak to him through his solicitor so it is escalating and maybe time for some professional advice? Sadly, I think this is going to be expensive.
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