House purchase next to a farm.
Discussion
Atlas 12v said:
85Carrera said:
Maybe you should live in the country but not next to a farm then ...
Does that qualify as being in the country if you need to have an exclusion zone around farms, though?
Sounds like you want to be in a housing estate adjoining green belt to me (“country” but without the smells, etc). If you could get an “executive house” that fitted that criteria that you could pull the trigger on, I suspect you’d be delighted
You are an asset to PH...Does that qualify as being in the country if you need to have an exclusion zone around farms, though?
Sounds like you want to be in a housing estate adjoining green belt to me (“country” but without the smells, etc). If you could get an “executive house” that fitted that criteria that you could pull the trigger on, I suspect you’d be delighted
As for country smells, they pale into insignificance when compared to the smell of a city on an even slightly warm day
dickymint said:
Pigs love fruit trees 
Reading this at the moment - recommended. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/mar/30/wood...
Thesprucegoose said:
I lived in the countryside all my life, pig s
t would be the least. Fruit farmers will labour intensive, lots of machinery late into the night. You can sit there whilst supping a cold beverage as the soon sets.
A modern pig farm might be different, but did you ever live near an open slurry pit? The fetid smell of pigst would be the least. Fruit farmers will labour intensive, lots of machinery late into the night. You can sit there whilst supping a cold beverage as the soon sets.t will travel for miles in the right weather conditions. Also if it floods then you may not appreciate the free delivery of liquid fertiliser to your property..Hopefully modern EH regs mean new ones have to be enclosed.
essayer said:
A modern pig farm might be different, but did you ever live near an open slurry pit? The fetid smell of pigst will travel for miles in the right weather conditions. Also if it floods then you may not appreciate the free delivery of liquid fertiliser to your property..
Hopefully modern EH regs mean new ones have to be enclosed.
Cowst will travel for miles in the right weather conditions. Also if it floods then you may not appreciate the free delivery of liquid fertiliser to your property..Hopefully modern EH regs mean new ones have to be enclosed.
t yes and banger racing. If the OP does buy it can go naked scrumping..We've got friends who are dairy farmers and even they don't like living on their own farm because of the flies, noise and occasional smells (apparently human waste is the worst, but chicken manure is a close second)
I've lived in proper rural countryside for my entire life and i wouldn't want to live next door to a working farmyard.
I've lived in proper rural countryside for my entire life and i wouldn't want to live next door to a working farmyard.
KrazyIvan said:
Whare as you seem to want to live in the country, without the country infringing on your future rights to a perfect life.
As for country smells, they pale into insignificance when compared to the smell of a city on an even slightly warm day
It probably comes across like that but it’s really not the case. As for country smells, they pale into insignificance when compared to the smell of a city on an even slightly warm day
I should have just asked “Do farms need permission for change of farming type?” And not worries about the rest of it.
I agree I’d sooner live in a pig farm than in the city.
Our last house was in a farming village, within 100yards we had sheep and cows. It didn't smell when we viewed the property (February), it stank on moving day (March), and by April we never smelled it ever again!
Non-smell disruptions can also include heavy farm machinery (those buggers are grafting from dawn to dusk) and they don't always drive as slowly as you'd expect...!
Personally we loved it, the positives far outweighed the negatives and our new house that we just moved into is also within a few hundred yards of a chicken/horse type place (the peacock they have is particularly entertaining at early hours) and the village leads onto quite a large scale farm so we have the house rumbled by massive trucks fairly regularly during the day.
Non-smell disruptions can also include heavy farm machinery (those buggers are grafting from dawn to dusk) and they don't always drive as slowly as you'd expect...!
Personally we loved it, the positives far outweighed the negatives and our new house that we just moved into is also within a few hundred yards of a chicken/horse type place (the peacock they have is particularly entertaining at early hours) and the village leads onto quite a large scale farm so we have the house rumbled by massive trucks fairly regularly during the day.
Equus said:
silentbrown said:
Intensive poultry units are the plague around here at present.
I could tell you the story of a farmer who spent years, deliberately (but legally) intensifying the use of some land he owned adjacent to a very nice 'executive' estate on the edge of a certain Cotswolds town. He started with polytunnels, and by the time he had finished he had a food packing and distribution operation, plus a fish processing factory on the site.
...then he brought in a couple of thousand free-range geese and turkeys, to fatten for the Christmas market each year.
By the time he had finished, the NIMBY neighbours were begging us to build houses on the site.
Jag_NE said:
I say this oblivious to the detailed background but the farmer comes across as an utter tool. nimbys who want to live in the country without the associated noises/smells are one thing but deliberately trying to blight the lives of his neighbours like that is even worse behaviour.
Or the counter argument might be that he was an incredibly successful businessman using his land in a profitable way to provide what the customers want. Fruit farming and turkeys are generally high margin, rather than trying to produce arable crops and compete with farmers in American who can do it considerably cheaper. You dont spend the hundreds of thousands required to run processing factories just for fun....
Why do you think he was deliberately trying to blight the estate?
I live within the boundaries of urban Reading, by about half a mile. 2 miles out there's a cow farm with big open sheds where they spend the nights. When the wind's in the wrong direction it can be close-the-windows-Doris time.
Some of my wife's family have their own small holding with pigs in Croatia - the piggies are in a barn a matter of a few dozen yards from the house, and you could not pay me to live there. Smell, flies.........just argh.
I would not risk living next to anything where farm animals of any description could turn up.
Some of my wife's family have their own small holding with pigs in Croatia - the piggies are in a barn a matter of a few dozen yards from the house, and you could not pay me to live there. Smell, flies.........just argh.
I would not risk living next to anything where farm animals of any description could turn up.
Condi said:
Jag_NE said:
I say this oblivious to the detailed background but the farmer comes across as an utter tool. nimbys who want to live in the country without the associated noises/smells are one thing but deliberately trying to blight the lives of his neighbours like that is even worse behaviour.
Or the counter argument might be that he was an incredibly successful businessman using his land in a profitable way to provide what the customers want. Fruit farming and turkeys are generally high margin, rather than trying to produce arable crops and compete with farmers in American who can do it considerably cheaper. You dont spend the hundreds of thousands required to run processing factories just for fun....
Why do you think he was deliberately trying to blight the estate?
So he set out to:
a) intensify the use to the point where those arguments ceased to make sense and;
b) make lots of money along the way.
Condi said:
Why do you think he was deliberately trying to blight the estate?
What do you think the uplift on the land value was once he'd got planning permission for residential use?https://www.fwi.co.uk/business/housing-need-pushes...
Equus said:
Condi said:
Jag_NE said:
I say this oblivious to the detailed background but the farmer comes across as an utter tool. nimbys who want to live in the country without the associated noises/smells are one thing but deliberately trying to blight the lives of his neighbours like that is even worse behaviour.
Or the counter argument might be that he was an incredibly successful businessman using his land in a profitable way to provide what the customers want. Fruit farming and turkeys are generally high margin, rather than trying to produce arable crops and compete with farmers in American who can do it considerably cheaper. You dont spend the hundreds of thousands required to run processing factories just for fun....
Why do you think he was deliberately trying to blight the estate?
So he set out to:
a) intensify the use to the point where those arguments ceased to make sense and;
b) make lots of money along the way.
Guess what, it's now forefront for development of the town.
PositronicRay said:
A Kenilworth landowner reputably denied PP on a parcel of land, let it to travellers several weekends PA for a 'horse fair'
Guess what, it's now forefront for development of the town.
Yep, as a long-term strategy, like it or not, it works: if the planners don't want to see your land built on because it's too 'nice', you make it less nice. Guess what, it's now forefront for development of the town.
If it's agricultural land, there are umpteen ways of doing that without breaching any Planning rules. And while it's not a very neighbourly approach it's to be expected when, as SilentBrown says, there is such a disparity between land values.
silentbrown said:
Condi said:
Why do you think he was deliberately trying to blight the estate?
What do you think the uplift on the land value was once he'd got planning permission for residential use?https://www.fwi.co.uk/business/housing-need-pushes...
s off enough people so they prefer it to be developed. There are easier and cheaper ways to piss people off.
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