House purchase next to a farm.

[KrazyIvan]

Atlas 12v said:

KrazyIvan said:

Whare as you seem to want to live in the country, without the country infringing on your future rights to a perfect life.

As for country smells, they pale into insignificance when compared to the smell of a city on an even slightly warm day

It probably comes across like that but it’s really not the case.

I should have just asked “Do farms need permission for change of farming type?” And not worries about the rest of it.

I agree I’d sooner live in a pig farm than in the city.

Fair enough

As other said, it would not be a change of use, but any sheds he put up would need pp.

Would not put me off if it's the right house

[dickymint]

Atlas 12v said:

KrazyIvan said:

Whare as you seem to want to live in the country, without the country infringing on your future rights to a perfect life.

As for country smells, they pale into insignificance when compared to the smell of a city on an even slightly warm day

It probably comes across like that but it’s really not the case.

I should have just asked “Do farms need permission for change of farming type?” And not worries about the rest of it.

I agree I’d sooner live in a pig farm than in the city.

Here you go............

https://www.planningni.gov.uk/index/advice/advice_...

I can't be arsed to read it but i'd say going from pigs to fruit then back again to pigs was a no brainer resounding yes no problem.

The only caveat I can think of is maybe "the farmer" has signed some sort of weird, eco loony, set-aside, subsidy deal for X amount of years.

Edited by dickymint on Monday 18th June 16:27

[silentbrown]

dickymint said:

https://www.planningni.gov.uk/ind...

That's for Northern Ireland.

Probably very similar, though.

[dickymint]

silentbrown said:

dickymint said:

https://www.planningni.gov.uk/ind...

That's for Northern Ireland.

Probably very similar, though.

Like I said couldn't be arsed to read it

It'll all stem from the the EU anyway

[Equus]

dickymint said:

Here you go............

https://www.planningni.gov.uk/index/advice/advice_...

I can't be arsed to read it but i'd say going from pigs to fruit then back again to pigs was a no brainer resounding yes no problem.

Aside from applying to the wrong country, that link is irrelevant because there is no change of use involved (in terms of the Planning definition of the phrase) going from fruit farming to pig farming.

[Equus]

dickymint said:

It'll all stem from the the EU anyway

In fact, it doesn't - the EU has had naff all influence on UK Planning law.

[dickymint]

Equus said:

dickymint said:

It'll all stem from the the EU anyway

In fact, it doesn't - the EU has had naff all influence on UK Planning law.

It very much has on Methane emissions though which can influence planning

[dickymint]

Equus said:

dickymint said:

It'll all stem from the the EU anyway

In fact, it doesn't - the EU has had naff all influence on UK Planning law.

Quick Google just for fun - and funnily enough there's a pig on the first page.................

https://www.basingstoke.gov.uk/content/page/25817/...

Environmental Impact Assessment (page 15) being the relevant point.

A pinch of salt to a pack of sausages that stems from the EU

[dickymint]

dickymint said:

Equus said:

dickymint said:

It'll all stem from the the EU anyway

In fact, it doesn't - the EU has had naff all influence on UK Planning law.

Quick Google just for fun - and funnily enough there's a pig on the first page.................

https://www.basingstoke.gov.uk/content/page/25817/...

Environmental Impact Assessment (page 15) being the relevant point.

A pinch of salt to a pack of sausages that stems from the EU

And just for good measure "Agenda 21" (for the majority on here this is not, as it sounds, a "conspiracy theory") a UN directive adopted by every Council up and down the land that even most Councilors are not aware of (certainly not my local Councilors).

Agreed?

[C Lee Farquar]

Equus said:

Aside from applying to the wrong country, that link is irrelevant because there is no change of use involved (in terms of the Planning definition of the phrase) going from fruit farming to pig farming.

And pigs do not attract a subsidy

[dickymint]

C Lee Farquar said:

Equus said:

Aside from applying to the wrong country, that link is irrelevant because there is no change of use involved (in terms of the Planning definition of the phrase) going from fruit farming to pig farming.

And pigs do not attract a subsidy

I never said they did! I inferred he may have got a subsidy for changing to set aside/fruit growing.

[Woody John]

boyse7en said:

We've got friends who are dairy farmers and even they don't like living on their own farm because of the flies, noise and occasional smells (apparently human waste is the worst, but chicken manure is a close second)

I've lived in proper rural countryside for my entire life and i wouldn't want to live next door to a working farmyard.

This.

Forget the hopes of any peace near a working farm. Tractors are now the size of double decker buses with st tankers the same size again. They drive crazy speeds along small roads as couldn't care less who they run in to.

[Equus]

dickymint said:

Agreed?

Not agreed.

EIA's are nothing to do with EU legislation; and if you are confusing the EU with the UN, and an agreement signed in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil with legislation formulated in Brussels, Europe, then you should have paid more attention at school.

[C Lee Farquar]

dickymint said:

I never said they did! I inferred he may have got a subsidy for changing to set aside/fruit growing.

Couldn't be arsed to read it all

[dickymint]

Equus said:

dickymint said:

Agreed?

Not agreed.

EIA's are nothing to do with EU legislation; and if you are confusing the EU with the UN, and an agreement signed in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil with legislation formulated in Brussels, Europe, then you should have paid more attention at school.

For the record you stand by this?...............

Equus said:

dickymint said:

It'll all stem from the the EU anyway

In fact, it doesn't - the EU has had naff all influence on UK Planning law.

You can be as pedantic with your answers as you like but you and I know that to be wrong.

[silentbrown]

dickymint said:

You can be as pedantic with your answers as you like but you and I know that to be wrong.

<<<<< Brexit and libertarian woo forums are that way <<<<<<

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[Equus]

dickymint said:

Equus said:

dickymint said:

Agreed?

Not agreed.

EIA's are nothing to do with EU legislation; and if you are confusing the EU with the UN, and an agreement signed in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil with legislation formulated in Brussels, Europe, then you should have paid more attention at school.

For the record you stand by this?...............

Which bit? That EIA's are nothing to do with EU legislation, that the EU is a different organisation to the UN, or that Rio de Janeiro is not in Europe?

Well, if you're determined to be pedantic, then EIA's are linked via an EU Directive to global agreements, but they would have happened anyway, since we are a direct signatory to those agreements. And I guarantee you won't see them go when we leave Europe.

All recent UK legislation has to be consistent with EU legislation and directives, but that doesn't mean it was driven by them. That's a fantasy only believed by the most rabid Brexiteers, who are about to discover how wrong they were...

dickymint said:

Equus said:

dickymint said:

It'll all stem from the the EU anyway

In fact, it doesn't - the EU has had naff all influence on UK Planning law.

You can be as pedantic with your answers as you like but you and I know that to be wrong.

Please don't presume to tell me what I know....

UK Planning Legislation stems from the Town and Country Planning Act 1947 - long before the EU existed - and has changed very little since then.

I think it's fair to say that the EU has had very little practical influence on our Planning system

[dickymint]

"In fact, it doesn't - the EU has had naff all influence on UK Planning law"

I'll leave this here and withdraw

[popeyewhite]

Atlas 12v said:

Love the idea of being so close to a farm, loads of space, great for kids growing up etc but resale on a place next to a fruit farm is very different to one next to a livestock farm.

I'd worry more more about cows than pigs at the farm next door. Take up much more space, make much more smell and in summer the horseflies quickly deter you from sunbathing or throwing too many windows open. Oh yes and if they have calves they can be very aggressive. Give me pigs any day.

[Equus]

dickymint said:

"In fact, it doesn't - the EU has had naff all influence on UK Planning law"

I'll leave this here and withdraw

Yep, that's what I said. You can quote it all you like, with pleasure, but I'm not sure what your point is in doing so.

The principle of Environmental Impact Assessments emerged from the 'Clean Developments Mechanism' within the Kyoto Protocol (that pesky UN again... unless you've decided that Japan is part of Europe, too, now?).

Certainly, the EU was a signatory to the Kyoto Protocol, but so is the UK in its own right.

Certainly, it was convenient for us to frame our legislation (the Town and Country Planning (Environmental Impact) Regulations 2011) to conform to the relevant EU Directive to its Member States, but we were/are separately and previously committed to comply, anyway. Like I said, EIA's are nothing to do with Europe.