Strange old retired neighbor

Strange old retired neighbor

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Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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sc0tt said:
Mixed information on the net. I read somewhere that had to be offered back to the owner, then the owner could decline and the "cutter" would have to dispose. I also read that the "cutter" was also allowed to lob them over.

What I don't understand is coming over and cutting my bush that is not near his property.
Based on the pictures, your and his property share a boundary. They are adjoined. They touch. There is no gap between them. The border is one and the same. Your bush is overhanging his property. He can do what he likes to the bits that overhang, with the exception of stealing them. And he has.

Why are you getting annoyed about that?

Herbs

4,916 posts

229 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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popeyewhite said:
sc0tt said:
What I don't understand is coming over and cutting my bush that is not near his property.
Yes, it's odd. Overhanging the pavement should be a council job, or letter from the council to you to remind you to keep the pavement clear for wheelchair and pram access. Incidentally that estate car in the photo looks illegally parked.
On a serious note, it's not that odd. He is retired, at home all day and it is his view out of his window. He obviously takes pride in where he lives and felt that this young ruffian has moved in and let the neighbourhood got to pot so took it upon himself to tidy it up and make a point that it is not his job to do by throwing them back over (which is also the law).

Two sides to every story, but he's not that much of a nutcase and not in the right for doing so.

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

163 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Munter said:
Based on the pictures, your and his property share a boundary. They are adjoined. They touch. There is no gap between them. The border is one and the same. Your bush is overhanging his property. He can do what he likes to the bits that overhang, with the exception of stealing them. And he has.

Why are you getting annoyed about that?
I haven't looked at any pics of his property but he said in the OP he lives opposite the weird guy,not next to.

sc0tt

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18,047 posts

201 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Munter said:
Based on the pictures, your and his property share a boundary. They are adjoined. They touch. There is no gap between them. The border is one and the same. Your bush is overhanging his property. He can do what he likes to the bits that overhang, with the exception of stealing them. And he has.

Why are you getting annoyed about that?
Where are you seeing that it is his property?

LivingTheDream

1,753 posts

179 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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PositronicRay said:
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BTW this belongs in the correct thread in the lounge
I think the whole street belongs in the bad parking thread!

JuniorD

8,627 posts

223 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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You need to disarm him with hyper-friendliness. Assume the role of his best mate; make him feel that he's the best. Ask him his opinion on the relative merits of the Humber Super Snipe and the Ford Zephyr. Invite him to dinner, maybe offer him to come visit your shed and see your porn collection. It's will be much more rewarding than animosity and mutual suspicion. He might even die and leave you in his will the old git.

CAPP0

19,589 posts

203 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Munter said:
Based on the pictures, your and his property share a boundary. They are adjoined. They touch. There is no gap between them. The border is one and the same. Your bush is overhanging his property. He can do what he likes to the bits that overhang, with the exception of stealing them. And he has.

Why are you getting annoyed about that?
Unless you consider that bricked road a "shared boundary", I don't know what you mean? The two houses in question are either side of that road.

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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OP, thank him profusely for doing it, but ask him next time if he could put the cuttings through a chipper first, as you'd like to use them for mulch.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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CAPP0 said:
Munter said:
Based on the pictures, your and his property share a boundary. They are adjoined. They touch. There is no gap between them. The border is one and the same. Your bush is overhanging his property. He can do what he likes to the bits that overhang, with the exception of stealing them. And he has.

Why are you getting annoyed about that?
Unless you consider that bricked road a "shared boundary", I don't know what you mean? The two houses in question are either side of that road.
That's likely not a road. That's why the footpath comes across the end of it, and where that random tree has been planted, is his property and not a public footpath.

I would expect everything "brick" to be the property/driveway of the houses to the right of it. The neighbour in question would be required to make sure his part was passable for those further along. This may include cutting back the OPs overgrown bush, which is overhanging his property.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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CAPP0 said:
Munter said:
Based on the pictures, your and his property share a boundary. They are adjoined. They touch. There is no gap between them. The border is one and the same. Your bush is overhanging his property. He can do what he likes to the bits that overhang, with the exception of stealing them. And he has.

Why are you getting annoyed about that?
Unless you consider that bricked road a "shared boundary", <snip>
Obviously...

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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sc0tt said:
Munter said:
Based on the pictures, your and his property share a boundary. They are adjoined. They touch. There is no gap between them. The border is one and the same. Your bush is overhanging his property. He can do what he likes to the bits that overhang, with the exception of stealing them. And he has.

Why are you getting annoyed about that?
Where are you seeing that it is his property?
I'm going from the link you posted showing his drive and your bush...

sc0tt

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18,047 posts

201 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Munter said:
I'm going from the link you posted showing his drive and your bush...
The bricked area is shared access. The Tarmac is his drive.

S100HP

12,681 posts

167 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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FiF said:
Tie the severed branches back onto the bush with garden twine, then attach a helium filled balloon bearing the message "Get Well Soon."
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Reminded me of this



In all seriousness, I don't get the need to cause an issue on either side. If its overhanging his driveway (which if its bigger than original linked image) then he's quite right to chop it. You'd be annoyed if it was the other way round and you had to drive your car past it. Just go give it a trim and move on.

Or do the balloon thing, because that would be epic.

JamesRF

1,051 posts

98 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Presumably the estate car is a visitor and your parking area is the garage at the bottom of your garden accessed via the shared drive?

The combination of a badly parked car and overgrown bush probably makes his blood boil every time he looks out his window laugh

What he should have done was introduce himself when you moved in and explained the bush annoys him offering to keep it trimmed for you, but he's gone about it the wrong way.

As others have said, for an easy life it would take 2 minutes of your time to pop over and say you've seen what he's done and that you plan on doing it yourself soon or you'd be happy for him to maintain it if it makes him happy.

The street view below was in 2014 and you say it's now bigger so I can understand why he probably wants to sort it.




Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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sc0tt said:
The bricked area is shared access. The Tarmac is his drive.
Shared access. Owned by which property(s).

https://regs.thurrock.gov.uk/online-applications/p...

Not yours is it? Most likely his and the other 2 houses accessed by it, and therefore his responsibility to keep the patch outside his house, clear. Including your bush.

This stuff isn't hard. Your bush is overhanging property that doesn't belong to you. One of the people who owns/is responsible for that property is making the point to you that you might want to trim your bush, so that it doesn't overhang as much.

Why would that be an issue for you?

hornmeister

809 posts

91 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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I'd leave it be tbh.

I've first hand experience of old folks going a bit odd with silly little things like this. Can be a side affect of things like early parkinsons. Stuff that you would normally think nothing of, can suddenly be very important to them and they find it difficult to comprehend common sense. I've learned to cut them a little slack.

If nothing else, he's about all day, you're not and anything that escalates into a neighbourly dispute is going to be a waste of time, effort and need to be declared should you ever want to sell up.

What would pee me off however is that white estate car parking there. If it's on the pavement or adopted road then it's causing an obstruction. If he's the chap that owns it then he should be parking on his side or better still on the empty space on his drive.

sc0tt

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18,047 posts

201 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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JamesRF said:
Presumably the estate car is a visitor and your parking area is the garage at the bottom of your garden accessed via the shared drive?

The combination of a badly parked car and overgrown bush probably makes his blood boil every time he looks out his window laugh

What he should have done was introduce himself when you moved in and explained the bush annoys him offering to keep it trimmed for you, but he's gone about it the wrong way.

As others have said, for an easy life it would take 2 minutes of your time to pop over and say you've seen what he's done and that you plan on doing it yourself soon or you'd be happy for him to maintain it if it makes him happy.

The street view below was in 2014 and you say it's now bigger so I can understand why he probably wants to sort it.

hehe, That isn't my car, I've only been here 8 weeks. I don't park there either. I'm happy to trim it down. It's more the strangeness of the 2 branches that he has cut.

sc0tt

Original Poster:

18,047 posts

201 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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hornmeister said:
I'd leave it be tbh.

I've first hand experience of old folks going a bit odd with silly little things like this. Can be a side affect of things like early parkinsons. Stuff that you would normally think nothing of, can suddenly be very important to them and they find it difficult to comprehend common sense. I've learned to cut them a little slack.

If nothing else, he's about all day, you're not and anything that escalates into a neighbourly dispute is going to be a waste of time, effort and need to be declared should you ever want to sell up.

What would pee me off however is that white estate car parking there. If it's on the pavement or adopted road then it's causing an obstruction. If he's the chap that owns it then he should be parking on his side or better still on the empty space on his drive.
I think I am less wound up about it now the England result has sunk in.

That was the previous owners car. I park at the rear in the space.

Greendubber

13,215 posts

203 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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sc0tt said:
JamesRF said:
Presumably the estate car is a visitor and your parking area is the garage at the bottom of your garden accessed via the shared drive?

The combination of a badly parked car and overgrown bush probably makes his blood boil every time he looks out his window laugh

What he should have done was introduce himself when you moved in and explained the bush annoys him offering to keep it trimmed for you, but he's gone about it the wrong way.

As others have said, for an easy life it would take 2 minutes of your time to pop over and say you've seen what he's done and that you plan on doing it yourself soon or you'd be happy for him to maintain it if it makes him happy.

The street view below was in 2014 and you say it's now bigger so I can understand why he probably wants to sort it.

hehe, That isn't my car, I've only been here 8 weeks. I don't park there either. I'm happy to trim it down. It's more the strangeness of the 2 branches that he has cut.
He's sent two branch shaped warning shots your way. I think you'd do well to heed his warning, look what he's done to your bush and just imagine what else he could be capable of.

LHRFlightman

1,940 posts

170 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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DonkeyApple said:
sc0tt said:
Sheepshanks said:
sc0tt said:
His house is that opposite.
Has he really planted a tree in the footpath?
Yes hehe
Well there’s your answer.

One must adopt the ‘Chicago Way’.

If he sends a branch over your fence then you send his tree through his window.

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