Mattress advice

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Oakey

27,592 posts

217 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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what's better for bad backs? firmer or softer?

CoolHands

18,677 posts

196 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Medium biggrin

AdeTuono

7,257 posts

228 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Oakey said:
what's better for bad backs? firmer or softer?
It's a fallacy that a firm mattress is best for a bad back. You need to support the small of your back too; if it's too firm there's no support.

FWIW, I've never had a decent night's sleep in a Premier Inn, or indeed many hotels. I've got a soft/medium pocket-sprung mattress with an inch or so of memory foam on top. On top of that is a Hungarian duck or goose down topper, and it is genuinely like sleeping on a cloud. It's getting near the end of it's life, and I have no idea if they still make an equivalent. I may have to sleep standing up.

PhilboSE

4,370 posts

227 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Bonefish Blues said:
Vi-Spring.

Strayed once, never again.
Ditto. Only mattresses we buy now.

oblio

5,412 posts

228 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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The other benefit of a good memory foam is that if one you is a restless sleeper, the other gets disturbed less.

I tend to flump around like a beached whale as I am a poor sleeper (chronic insomnia) but Mrs O doesn't hit the ceiling every time I move...in fact she doesn't notice it at all.

We love our memory foam mattress: pushing 6 years old and still going strong. Dead comfortable.

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telecat

8,528 posts

242 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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Simpo Two said:
The problem is that the more layers of exotic nonsense and unicorn pubes you have in it, the more there is to subside. Lovely for a few weeks or months, then it's hammock time...
12000 spring King size from John Lewis. really nice and no "hammock" effect at all after a couple of years. Now really going for it. An Emperor size Hypnos is being delivered next week.

Bonefish Blues

26,796 posts

224 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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HTF does one actually get 12K springs into a mattress?

Oakey

27,592 posts

217 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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AdeTuono said:
It's a fallacy that a firm mattress is best for a bad back. You need to support the small of your back too; if it's too firm there's no support.

FWIW, I've never had a decent night's sleep in a Premier Inn, or indeed many hotels. I've got a soft/medium pocket-sprung mattress with an inch or so of memory foam on top. On top of that is a Hungarian duck or goose down topper, and it is genuinely like sleeping on a cloud. It's getting near the end of it's life, and I have no idea if they still make an equivalent. I may have to sleep standing up.
I have a Silentnight Mirapocket 1200 something or other and it's firm and I swear I've had back problems ever since we bought it three years ago. It's the next on my list of things to replace.

telecat

8,528 posts

242 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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Bonefish Blues said:
HTF does one actually get 12K springs into a mattress?
Well they manage 20000 on the real top model. It's a mix of large medium and small Pocket springs as described to me.

Simpo Two

85,511 posts

266 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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Bonefish Blues said:
HTF does one actually get 12K springs into a mattress?
Same way they get 1,000,000 candles into one torch smile (Rhod Gilbert)

I think some of it is like the old camera megapixel race - more must be better.

AdeTuono

7,257 posts

228 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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Oakey said:
AdeTuono said:
It's a fallacy that a firm mattress is best for a bad back. You need to support the small of your back too; if it's too firm there's no support.

FWIW, I've never had a decent night's sleep in a Premier Inn, or indeed many hotels. I've got a soft/medium pocket-sprung mattress with an inch or so of memory foam on top. On top of that is a Hungarian duck or goose down topper, and it is genuinely like sleeping on a cloud. It's getting near the end of it's life, and I have no idea if they still make an equivalent. I may have to sleep standing up.
I have a Silentnight Mirapocket 1200 something or other and it's firm and I swear I've had back problems ever since we bought it three years ago. It's the next on my list of things to replace.
I'm convinced that the 'orthopaedic' mattresses ensure you'll need orthopaedic medication at some point.

ManiacBob

219 posts

153 months

Wednesday 8th August 2018
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I have the John Ryan Origins Pocket 1500. It was a little firmer than I was expecting but I've either broken it in or I'm now used to it. I sleep great on it now and the service from John Ryan was very good.

The only problem is the depth of the mattress! I struggle to get extra deep mattress covers to fit properly.

Gren

1,950 posts

253 months

Wednesday 8th August 2018
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AAD44H said:
Tempur Cloud FTW
Love ours.

Had it now for 5 years and it feels the same as the day we bought it. No movement at all when I get up in the middle of the night for a pee which the missus is eternally grateful for.

jinkster

2,248 posts

157 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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Would anyone consider a clean second hand mattress? We all sleep in hotels and they are not new.

hotchy

4,474 posts

127 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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jinkster said:
Would anyone consider a clean second hand mattress? We all sleep in hotels and they are not new.
No chance. I'd rather a cheap IKEA special.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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jinkster said:
Would anyone consider a clean second hand mattress? We all sleep in hotels and they are not new.
vomit

Bonefish Blues

26,796 posts

224 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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Ex-dem yes - we have one at the moment, second hand, no thanks.

Funk

26,297 posts

210 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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Another vote here for John Ryan by Design. I'm a big bloke and bought their Resilience 2. I hadn't realised how badly I slept until I bought this, it's utter bliss. Very firm (although I knew that and it was bought on that basis) but incredibly comfortable. I wake up ache-free and well-rested.

Avoid the Premier Inn beds, they're not good. Also don't bother visiting a shop to lie on a bed for 30 seconds, it tells you nothing. Get one with a 60/90/100 night guarantee after researching carefully what's actually in the mattress (ie. how much of the 'decent' materials are actually used, by weight) and don't be conned by the perma-sale bks the retailers try and pull.

Again, I can't recommend John Ryan by Design highly enough and the only other company they recommend is Vispring.

Make sure that things like toppers are removable/replaceable (for example the Premier Inn Hypnos ones aren't - once that goes to st the while mattress needs replacing...)

JRbD aren't cheap but it's the best investment I've made in a long time.

V8RX7

26,897 posts

264 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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jinkster said:
Would anyone consider a clean second hand mattress? We all sleep in hotels and they are not new.
Not intentionally - I know it's irrational what with hotels, used cars etc

However I suspect many buying "new" mattresses are actually getting ex demo.

I've sent an Otty back - too firm - and they ask you to wash the cover before sending it back, bagged up.

I swapped the Medium latex mattress for a firm and they simply swap out the core - where is the ex demo core going ?

V8RX7

26,897 posts

264 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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I think they key is to try them.

I read up on lots and have now tried 3 about to try a 4th.

Otty - great service, bed too firm, no back ache for me but uncomfortable even with an M&S topper

Latexsense - they suggested a medium - seemed really soft but was lovely to sleep on (for me) my wife had terrible back ache. They suggested the firm - now we both have back ache.

I think we'll try sprung next as we can both sleep fine on an old sprung mattress that was relegated to the spare room when we went to a super king.

I was going with John Ryan but a few reviews say they don't last that long and I expect a £1000 mattress to last 10yrs.