Can I Pay A Teenager For Casual Jobs ?

Can I Pay A Teenager For Casual Jobs ?

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V8RX7

Original Poster:

26,919 posts

264 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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I've too much to do around the garden, I don't want a gardener etc I just want someone to help out as and when, be it driving the mower / sweeper, moving logs etc

This is the stuff I'd do for my Dad and his friends when I was a teenager

Before I stick a post on Facebook, am I breaking any laws to pay someone cash on a casual basis and if they injure themselves do I need insurance etc ?

Thought I'd better ask after seeing the local chip shop vilified for asking for a "Potato Boy"




bazjude2998

666 posts

125 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Times have changed,Insurance is the major issue.I would go for the self employed over 16 year old .No probs with Inland Revenue / employment legalities.
This may seem a bit O T T but consider the implications if he falls off the ladder whilst cutting the hedge

BoRED S2upid

19,720 posts

241 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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What he said re insurance but in reality don’t you have friends with kids who want some extra pocket money? I wouldn’t be posting on Facebook.

KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

176 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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As said insurance is going to be your issue.

You could ignore it, but if he injures himself and his parents try to claim of your home insurance you will likely find your self in a sticky situation

paulwirral

3,161 posts

136 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Be careful how you word your ad on any form of social media ! The nutters will be on your case in minutes , I hope your not wearing thick rimmed national health type glasses on any type of profile pic !
But seriously , when I was a boy you got a foot up your arse if you didn't help people for nothing , any form of payment after you'd worked was a bonus ! Times have changed beyond belief.

Butter Face

30,363 posts

161 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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V8RX7 said:
"Potato Boy"
That takes me back, did it every summer when I was a kid, got paid next to fk all but had as many free chips as I wanted. I was a fat kid rofl

V8RX7

Original Poster:

26,919 posts

264 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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There won't be ladders / hedge cutters involved !

I have young daughters and local friends only have youngsters too.

I did wonder if I might be better asking for a retired person but I enjoyed learning about machines when I was young and I was thinking that I might set someone up for later life - as I also have many big boys toys (digger, dumper, excavator, chainsaws...) and riding around on a lawn tractor isn't exactly arduous.

I'll see if I can add some sort of cover to one of my policies.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

173 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Girls can work too.

stichill99

1,046 posts

182 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Just make sure they limb the tree and not themselves! Seriously I wouldn't bother. We have a family moved near us with 2 sons who came to the farm and wanted to earn some pocket money. I felt bad as here were 2 kids not playing video games who wanted to drive tractors and be useful. One was 11 and the other 13. I asked our insurance broker and he said NO CHANCE. Just remember everybody is your friend until something goes wrong!!!

guindilias

5,245 posts

121 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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V8RX7 said:
Thought I'd better ask after seeing the local chip shop vilified for asking for a "Potato Boy"
Maybe they just wanted a fat kid? Someone to slap about a bit, relieve stress in the back room...

Rich_W

12,548 posts

213 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Ahbefive said:
Girls can work too.
At no point did the OP specify Boys only

Get back in your box! rolleyes

Wacky Racer

38,209 posts

248 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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Make sure you let 'em loose with your chainsaw, it's all good experience.

smile

Paul Drawmer

4,881 posts

268 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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My home insurance (contents) includes Employers Liability exactly for this sort of cover.

Not all policies are the same, you should check with your own insurer etc etc

jason61c

5,978 posts

175 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Whats going on with the world!?

Just do it.

Hayek

8,969 posts

209 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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jason61c said:
Whats going on with the world!?

Just do it.
This, totally sad/crazy to be worrying about insurance for getting a teenager to help with odd jobs.

daddy cool

4,002 posts

230 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Ahbefive said:
Girls can work too.
Yeah, and whats good about girls is you can pay them less for the same job and its totally ok.
(I heard that on the BBC - apparently all the big companies do it now)

PF62

3,670 posts

174 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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bazjude2998 said:
Times have changed,Insurance is the major issue.I would go for the self employed over 16 year old .No probs with Inland Revenue / employment legalities.
This may seem a bit O T T but consider the implications if he falls off the ladder whilst cutting the hedge
This came to mind when you mentioned falling off the ladder - https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-zoo-...

Especially the point - "She had also not received adequate training on the use of ladders during her four years at the zoo, the court heard."


Monkeylegend

26,479 posts

232 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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A 14 year old with a chainsaw, what could possibly go wrong hehe

dirty boy

14,706 posts

210 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Crazy to think a mate and I would go up the entire close and cut gardens and wash cars for nearly everyone.

We used to make a relative fortune for a couple of 11 year olds



On a serious note, my mum has a gardener who's only just gone self employed as an 18 year old. He only charges her £7.5 an hour (although it's guaranteed work she gives him 2 hours a week whatever and he uses her tools not his own, plus he only lives in the village) but it's easy for him I suspect, mopping up leaves and cutting the grass and hoeing the borders mostly.

princeperch

7,932 posts

248 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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I don't have an issue with this at all. It's a positively good thing to encourage a young person to work , to have a work ethic, and to show up when they say they will and do a good job, even if it's just cutting the grass or whatever.

The problem I have is where people take advantage of young people in more formal situations such as work experience. I recall one bloke on a local Facebook group, who is a z list music professional, advertising for a work experience kid. He said that he was working on a commercial project , releasing a new album, and wanted an intern to help him. He also said he needed them to have a car to drive him about in, and all sorts of other weird things . He also inferred that the arrangement wouldn't involve them getting paid anything but he might if they were lucky give them some cash at the end of it. That is taking the piss and trying to get something for nothing and it's not on.

(Sorry went off on a tangent a bit there)

If you pay a kid a fair days wage for a fair days work then that is a positively good thing. Just don't let them loose with the power tools just yet.