Show me your wood burner before and after pics
Discussion
NorthDave said:
I think as long as it isn't stood in the rain and benefits from a bit of breeze or sun it should be fine. I'd rather have mine outside than in a building or enclosed structure.
DonkeyApple said:
Just keep the rain off it. I never store fire wood inside because of wood worm risk but I also never buy kiln dried wood as it just soaks atmospheric moisture back up. I fill the back of the garage/barn in Spring with cut hardwood and it just dries itself out over the Summer and is generally as dry as it's ever going to get by November when we typically start heating the house.
Thanks both, in the store it goes (it’s hardwood seasoned in a barn as opposed to kiln dried)Some nice looking free standers there. I notice most, especially on Instagram and online, don’t seem to have any protection on the wall behind the burner - just painted plaster. Some even have skirtings running behind them.
Does this meet all the regs? It would just concern me having timber skirtings anywhere near to a burner and I’d worry about the paper content in any plasterboard.
Does this meet all the regs? It would just concern me having timber skirtings anywhere near to a burner and I’d worry about the paper content in any plasterboard.
Crumpet said:
Some nice looking free standers there. I notice most, especially on Instagram and online, don’t seem to have any protection on the wall behind the burner - just painted plaster. Some even have skirtings running behind them.
Does this meet all the regs? It would just concern me having timber skirtings anywhere near to a burner and I’d worry about the paper content in any plasterboard.
Depends on the "clearance to combustibles" figures quoted in the specs of the stove.Does this meet all the regs? It would just concern me having timber skirtings anywhere near to a burner and I’d worry about the paper content in any plasterboard.
Our freestanding stove specified 20cm - we went along with that but also added a tiled backstand on fireproof board with an airgap. Mostly because we liked the tiles but also just to be safe.
With even a really hot fire going the tiles at skirting level don't even get warm but behind where the flue connects they get hot enough that i can't hold my hand against them. Almost certainly not hot enough to start a fire but i'm still glad of the tiles/fibreboard i think.
Snow and Rocks said:
Depends on the "clearance to combustibles" figures quoted in the specs of the stove.
Our freestanding stove specified 20cm - we went along with that but also added a tiled backstand on fireproof board with an airgap. Mostly because we liked the tiles but also just to be safe.
With even a really hot fire going the tiles at skirting level don't even get warm but behind where the flue connects they get hot enough that i can't hold my hand against them. Almost certainly not hot enough to start a fire but i'm still glad of the tiles/fibreboard i think.
Thanks! I’ve just spoken to the fire shop and for the most basic setup they said just to fix fire board to the wall behind the stove and paint it. It’s already got 12mm tiles on the floor and the stove will be on a log stand so I think we’ll be able to just do a very simple install without messing about with a constructional hearth. Our freestanding stove specified 20cm - we went along with that but also added a tiled backstand on fireproof board with an airgap. Mostly because we liked the tiles but also just to be safe.
With even a really hot fire going the tiles at skirting level don't even get warm but behind where the flue connects they get hot enough that i can't hold my hand against them. Almost certainly not hot enough to start a fire but i'm still glad of the tiles/fibreboard i think.
Crumpet said:
Snow and Rocks said:
Depends on the "clearance to combustibles" figures quoted in the specs of the stove.
Our freestanding stove specified 20cm - we went along with that but also added a tiled backstand on fireproof board with an airgap. Mostly because we liked the tiles but also just to be safe.
With even a really hot fire going the tiles at skirting level don't even get warm but behind where the flue connects they get hot enough that i can't hold my hand against them. Almost certainly not hot enough to start a fire but i'm still glad of the tiles/fibreboard i think.
Thanks! I’ve just spoken to the fire shop and for the most basic setup they said just to fix fire board to the wall behind the stove and paint it. It’s already got 12mm tiles on the floor and the stove will be on a log stand so I think we’ll be able to just do a very simple install without messing about with a constructional hearth. Our freestanding stove specified 20cm - we went along with that but also added a tiled backstand on fireproof board with an airgap. Mostly because we liked the tiles but also just to be safe.
With even a really hot fire going the tiles at skirting level don't even get warm but behind where the flue connects they get hot enough that i can't hold my hand against them. Almost certainly not hot enough to start a fire but i'm still glad of the tiles/fibreboard i think.
Crumpet said:
Thanks! I’ve just spoken to the fire shop and for the most basic setup they said just to fix fire board to the wall behind the stove and paint it. It’s already got 12mm tiles on the floor and the stove will be on a log stand so I think we’ll be able to just do a very simple install without messing about with a constructional hearth.
Yeah should be fine, although i seem to remember that the regs say something about the needing to visually diffentiate the hearth area even if there's no real need for it. Ours is on a pretty simple hearth of rustic slate slabs which actually works quite well in stopping the rug or anything else from ending up too close.We initially tried just painted fireboard but weren't too taken with the look of it. I used a strip of fireboard down the back of each side of the fireboard creating an airgap. It's only really noticeable if you look closely but added a bit of extra piece of mind.
Edited by Snow and Rocks on Saturday 3rd September 19:29
Snow and Rocks said:
Yeah should be fine, although i seem to remember that the regs say something about the needing to visually diffentiate the hearth area even if there's no real need for it. Ours is on a pretty simple hearth of rustic slate slabs which actually works quite well in stopping the rug or anything else from ending up too close.
We initially tried just painted fireboard but weren't too taken with the look of it. I used a strip of fireboard down the back of each side of the fireboard creating an airgap. It's only really noticeable if you look closely but added a bit of extra piece of mind.
Interesting about the visual difference required for the hearth! Not a deal breaker as it’s on 60x60 tiles and I’d just whip a few of them up and replace with some basic black 60x60s. We initially tried just painted fireboard but weren't too taken with the look of it. I used a strip of fireboard down the back of each side of the fireboard creating an airgap. It's only really noticeable if you look closely but added a bit of extra piece of mind.
Edited by Snow and Rocks on Saturday 3rd September 19:29
Your backing there with the tiles is similar to what I was considering and it’s only a morning’s work. It’s a 50m2 room so think we’ll need a 7kw stove and I’d feel more comfortable with something like tiles on top of fire board than just the fireboard.
Found the old 7” gas flue that feeds into the old chimney stack next door (and about 5pbs of pigeon s
t), so hoping they can slide a 5” liner down it. 
Crumpet said:
Is that as planning for the gas and electric rises or was it going in anyway?
Partly yes, but also general reduced electricity consumption (20kW heaters in curing ovens to 5kW fan to blow warm air), improved factory environment during winter (no heating to some), increase in disposal costs, increase in the amount of “dust” we’re creating and improved environment around factory as the whole system is sealed.Crumpet said:
Interesting about the visual difference required for the hearth! Not a deal breaker as it’s on 60x60 tiles and I’d just whip a few of them up and replace with some basic black 60x60s.
Your backing there with the tiles is similar to what I was considering and it’s only a morning’s work. It’s a 50m2 room so think we’ll need a 7kw stove and I’d feel more comfortable with something like tiles on top of fire board than just the fireboard.
I did plan on lifting some tiles and doing what you suggest but was feeling lazy on the day so just picked up slate outdoor slabs that were on offer in B&Q and put them on top.Your backing there with the tiles is similar to what I was considering and it’s only a morning’s work. It’s a 50m2 room so think we’ll need a 7kw stove and I’d feel more comfortable with something like tiles on top of fire board than just the fireboard.
Like you, I was a bit wary about just having a bare wall despite it technically being allowed.
Looking at getting a wood burner, in the current climate…
The lounge has a working chimney (gas fire) but it doesn’t really work out.
We can do without the lounge, temporarily, as have a new kitchen/diner/seating extension.
Im going to totally destroy the lounge & get a new fire / flue at the opposite end of the room. Like a challenge!
Fireplace centre visit coming up.
The lounge has a working chimney (gas fire) but it doesn’t really work out.
We can do without the lounge, temporarily, as have a new kitchen/diner/seating extension.
Im going to totally destroy the lounge & get a new fire / flue at the opposite end of the room. Like a challenge!
Fireplace centre visit coming up.
OK, here's ours; been in a few years now. There was an old LPG fire in the fireplace, taken out, found hole not tall enough for log burner, lintel put in, hole enlarged, log burner in.
The hearth is two large pieces of polished slate, and - to address something raised earlier here - we rendered the recess with 'fireproof' render and painted it with black emulsion. The skirtings don't extend into the recess.
We had the original clay pipe flue that was in good order and the new double wall stainless flue just slotted perfectly inside it (think they must be designed for that?). Initially the fire cement around the flue plate crumbled. I think because the building work hadn't fully dried out. Since re-doing the cement (cheap, quick and easy) it's been fine for years.
Final observation: the stove is cast iron, rather than steel; once warm, it's very effective at holding and radiating the heat and I believe it's more efficient in terms of heat benefit per log burnt. It's tiny, but once it's going it's enough to keep the living room and rooms adjacent pretty toasty.
The hearth is two large pieces of polished slate, and - to address something raised earlier here - we rendered the recess with 'fireproof' render and painted it with black emulsion. The skirtings don't extend into the recess.
We had the original clay pipe flue that was in good order and the new double wall stainless flue just slotted perfectly inside it (think they must be designed for that?). Initially the fire cement around the flue plate crumbled. I think because the building work hadn't fully dried out. Since re-doing the cement (cheap, quick and easy) it's been fine for years.
Final observation: the stove is cast iron, rather than steel; once warm, it's very effective at holding and radiating the heat and I believe it's more efficient in terms of heat benefit per log burnt. It's tiny, but once it's going it's enough to keep the living room and rooms adjacent pretty toasty.
Strange experience today. Our lounge where our wood burner is situated started smelling of smoke, almost like the smell of a cold burnt log. However the burner hasn’t been lit since last spring, and the strength of the smell has increased throughout the day. We haven’t opened the doors to the burner, it doesn’t smell outside, it hasn’t rained heavily, and only the room where the burner is situated is affected.
Anyone else experienced this phenomenon before?
Anyone else experienced this phenomenon before?
juggsy said:
Strange experience today. Our lounge where our wood burner is situated started smelling of smoke, almost like the smell of a cold burnt log. However the burner hasn’t been lit since last spring, and the strength of the smell has increased throughout the day. We haven’t opened the doors to the burner, it doesn’t smell outside, it hasn’t rained heavily, and only the room where the burner is situated is affected.
Anyone else experienced this phenomenon before?
Windows closed and an extractor fan on somewhere nearby?Anyone else experienced this phenomenon before?
juggsy said:
Strange experience today. Our lounge where our wood burner is situated started smelling of smoke, almost like the smell of a cold burnt log. However the burner hasn’t been lit since last spring, and the strength of the smell has increased throughout the day. We haven’t opened the doors to the burner, it doesn’t smell outside, it hasn’t rained heavily, and only the room where the burner is situated is affected.
Anyone else experienced this phenomenon before?
One of our old unlined stone chimneys sometimes does this in certain weather conditions. The downdraught completely reverses the normal flow somehow and makes the room smell strongly of peat smoke (which i only burn occasionally).Anyone else experienced this phenomenon before?
If you try and light a fire while it's doing it, it fills the room with smoke and will only draw properly of you get a good hot kindling fire going.
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