Is this open reach box acceptable?

[mgtony]

snake_oil said:

mgtony said:

Could be worse:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6466861/N...

I was about to post the very same thing

Only for use of the drivers of the number 1 or number 2.

Is that really the termination point for a bus route?

[bimsb6]

Swervin_Mervin said:

PGM said:

Not a lot of thought goes into the placement of these in my opinion.

I hit this one cycling along the cycleway at night, following someone who went around it at the last minute, I didn't see it and hit it at around 15mph. Bent the frame of my nice titanium bike and smashed myself up nicely!

That's pretty terrible and I'm amazed the Local Highway Authority haven't insisted that it was put in at either the front or back of the shared use path.

I'd be sorely tempted to raise that with the LHA

Looks to me like the main cabinet was there before the cycle path .

[Blue Oval84]

Staggered that this thread has reached 9 pages.

OP, pop some conifers around it, keep them trimmed down neatly around the boxes so as not to attract any council attention, within a matter of a year or two all you'll be able to see from the house is greenery.

[Escort3500]

Blue Oval84 said:

Staggered that this thread has reached 9 pages.

OP, pop some conifers around it, keep them trimmed down neatly around the boxes so as not to attract any council attention, within a matter of a year or two all you'll be able to see from the house is greenery.

Except that BT will shop him to the council or remove the bushes themselves.

[Lemming Train]

Blue Oval84 said:

Staggered that this thread has reached 9 pages.

OP, pop some conifers around it, keep them trimmed down neatly around the boxes so as not to attract any council attention, within a matter of a year or two all you'll be able to see from the house is greenery.

He's already complained about it being impossible to drive his car out of the adjacent junction because the cabinet blocks the view of the road. Planting a bunch of conifer trees around it isn't going to help that.

[Blue Oval84]

Lemming Train said:

Blue Oval84 said:

Staggered that this thread has reached 9 pages.

OP, pop some conifers around it, keep them trimmed down neatly around the boxes so as not to attract any council attention, within a matter of a year or two all you'll be able to see from the house is greenery.

He's already complained about it being impossible to drive his car out of the adjacent junction because the cabinet blocks the view of the road. Planting a bunch of conifer trees around it isn't going to help that.

I rather assumed that he was saying that simply as an excuse to get them to move it. If it's genuinely an issue though, I'm not talking about huge things, just something to surround it with greenery. So long as kept off the doors it could probably be wrapped in some sort of climbing plant.

I have to say it wouldn't really bother me so I find it hard to relate to the "heartbroken" stuff. It's barely even visible from the house. The idea that someone would be put off an entire house because there's one extra green cabinet in the street outside, that you can barely see, is just odd.

[PGM]

bimsb6 said:

Swervin_Mervin said:

PGM said:

Not a lot of thought goes into the placement of these in my opinion.

I hit this one cycling along the cycleway at night, following someone who went around it at the last minute, I didn't see it and hit it at around 15mph. Bent the frame of my nice titanium bike and smashed myself up nicely!

That's pretty terrible and I'm amazed the Local Highway Authority haven't insisted that it was put in at either the front or back of the shared use path.

I'd be sorely tempted to raise that with the LHA

Looks to me like the main cabinet was there before the cycle path .

Not sure to be honest, whatever it was, some protection or reflective tape on the end would help, I'm sure there's probably a regulation somewhere. I do know a local schoolboy was killed doing the same thing on the way home from school a couple of years ago doing the same thing.

[dhutch]

PGM said:

bimsb6 said:

Swervin_Mervin said:

PGM said:

Not a lot of thought goes into the placement of these in my opinion.

I hit this one cycling along the cycleway at night, following someone who went around it at the last minute, I didn't see it and hit it at around 15mph. Bent the frame of my nice titanium bike and smashed myself up nicely!

That's pretty terrible and I'm amazed the Local Highway Authority haven't insisted that it was put in at either the front or back of the shared use path.

I'd be sorely tempted to raise that with the LHA

Looks to me like the main cabinet was there before the cycle path .

Not sure to be honest, whatever it was, some protection or reflective tape on the end would help, I'm sure there's probably a regulation somewhere. I do know a local schoolboy was killed doing the same thing on the way home from school a couple of years ago doing the same thing.

In India this sort of stuff is rife, all over the roads. But we appear to prioritise cycle lanes well down the list and as such has appalling stats for bike use in our cities and wider country which is a great shame.


Daniel

[m3jappa]

Just got back from center parcs (where incidentally there were st loads of boxes, all installed in discreet locations ) and a morrisons utility bloke turned up outside to take photos and measurements.

His manager had been given the complaint and is now looking into it. The bloke was really helpful, agreed it was ridiculous, agreed its been put there because ducting to the other side would have taken longer. He said it will have planning but would be surprised if its in that spot. He reckons the planning is for the other side and that the contractors will have turned up, looked at the dig and said fk that (which i totally agree with, having been a trade my whole working life).
He said they wouldn't want highways involved.....Im not sure why, maybe they will get a bking, im not sure. He said its definitely looking in our favour.

Which is nice.

He also said that in 3-4 years all of the boxes will be going, they are having to be fitted in some underground type boxes, im not sure what, something to do with super fast internet. This type of box has another 2 years of installation and then they will be going, i suppose demand will only go up along with speeds required with people now streaming everything.

[alorotom]

That’s a positive outcome.

I, however, wouldn’t be relying on the boxes disappearing overnight; it’ll take decades to get rid of them all for new equipment!

[bimsb6]

m3jappa said:

Just got back from center parcs (where incidentally there were st loads of boxes,

He also said that in 3-4 years all of the boxes will be going, they are having to be fitted in some underground type boxes, im not sure what, something to do with super fast internet. This type of box has another 2 years of installation and then they will be going, i suppose demand will only go up along with speeds required with people now streaming everything.

Which certre parcs ? Not heard that one about the boxes going , seems unlikely, he maybe talking about the dialtone from the exchange being turned off but the target for that is 2025.

[dhutch]

bimsb6 said:

Which certre parcs ? Not heard that one about the boxes going , seems unlikely, he maybe talking about the dialtone from the exchange being turned off but the target for that is 2025.

Yeah, in time the original cabs will I expect begin to disappear as they strip out the legacy backhaul, which will allow faster more reliableFTTC by not having the analogue line attached.

However that's only half the boxes, and I too would be supprised if it went underground for FTTP connections.


Daniel

[S100HP]

Interesting thread and some great photoshops too.

Have you considered crashing into it a few times?

[m3jappa]

bimsb6 said:

Which certre parcs ? Not heard that one about the boxes going , seems unlikely, he maybe talking about the dialtone from the exchange being turned off but the target for that is 2025.

We were at the woburn one, decent few days away

I agree that i cant see them going, he was quite adamant though as i asked a few times what he meant, 2 more years of installing these and then they are being replaced. 3-4 years and they will be gone he reckoned.

He also said that chelmsford council (which we come under) had a big meeting with them saying no more boxes, they do not want them damaging the landscape when they can be fitted underground. He said they were very pissed off with having the wool pulled over their eyes being told the cabinets had to be fitted when these underground ones can be.

I don't know this guys position in the business (he was morrisons) so he may well have 9th hand information which is incorrect. He did say its why they are putting up with 'all this st' though and thats what they actually want (the installation of them all).

[bimsb6]

m3jappa said:

bimsb6 said:

Which certre parcs ? Not heard that one about the boxes going , seems unlikely, he maybe talking about the dialtone from the exchange being turned off but the target for that is 2025.

We were at the woburn one, decent few days away

I agree that i cant see them going, he was quite adamant though as i asked a few times what he meant, 2 more years of installing these and then they are being replaced. 3-4 years and they will be gone he reckoned.

He also said that chelmsford council (which we come under) had a big meeting with them saying no more boxes, they do not want them damaging the landscape when they can be fitted underground. He said they were very pissed off with having the wool pulled over their eyes being told the cabinets had to be fitted when these underground ones can be.

I don't know this guys position in the business (he was morrisons) so he may well have 9th hand information which is incorrect. He did say its why they are putting up with 'all this st' though and thats what they actually want (the installation of them all).

Woburn is near to me ! All the plant onsite was installed by center parcs none of it is bt , all the bt plant goes to their comms room and then their inhouse people deal with it .the only way all the cabinets will be removed is if fttp is 100 per cent coverage otherwise they will still be reqd for fttc .