House buying - Seller states No to flooding

House buying - Seller states No to flooding

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bazjude2998

666 posts

125 months

Friday 16th November 2018
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Surely first step a politely written letter cleverly worded to point out that there is a long standing problem with flooding and had the buyer being aware would have made a lesser offer
Under these circumstances would the seller be prepared to make a contribution towards the necessary remedial work.
If a negative reply you can then decide on the solicitors getting their hands on your dosh
Good luck y
Regards Baz

Skyedriver

17,909 posts

283 months

Friday 16th November 2018
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Lemming Train said:
Skyedriver said:
These two pics are a puzzle, in one the road looks quite narrow in the other it's wide enough for a large car and has a patch of grass in the middle.
If this is actually a public highway then yes, the Highway Authority have a legal responsibility to stop it flooding your property. Escalate your attack on them, press, media etc as well as MP, Local Councillor etc, Makes more sense than chasing the seller who cannot actually do anything to alleviate the situation
confused

It's quite obvious that he shot the first pic stood next to the black bin in the second pic.
I was late, I was tired, seeing a gate to the right hand side of the entrance on both pics is what threw me.....should have gone to bed instead of being on PH, sorry.

JuanCarlosFandango

7,813 posts

72 months

Friday 16th November 2018
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fastgerman said:
We put in the gates and granite sets more because people kept turning on our driveway. FYI second pic above is our driveway.
What was there before? Has this had any impact on the flooding?

fastgerman

Original Poster:

1,915 posts

196 months

Friday 16th November 2018
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Thanks Baz will go with a letter approach to start

Juan, please check pictures on page 3 at 06:44 today to see what was there before the gates i.e. as we bought the house

PAUL500

2,637 posts

247 months

Friday 16th November 2018
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As a fail safe regardless, have you thought of having an open grid made to replace the manhole covers, or even drill holes into the existing cover, the cast ones usually have shallow points to make that easier to do in places?


Or lay a french drain following the line of flow into the existing drains under the manhole covers. Simple enough to sort.

Edited by PAUL500 on Friday 16th November 21:27

guitarcarfanatic

1,607 posts

136 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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Surely the daughter just denies all knowledge? It was her mothers house, they may have had an estranged relationship and she could not have been party to the facts ref. flooding?

PartOfTheProblem

1,927 posts

172 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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Assuming the manhole lid you are lifting isn't foul, simply replace the manhole lid with a grating, job jobbed.

Murph7355

37,762 posts

257 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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PAUL500 said:
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Or lay a french drain following the line of flow into the existing drains under the manhole covers. Simple enough to sort....
That's what I was thinking - can't imagine that would be a 20k fix?

fastgerman

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1,915 posts

196 months

Sunday 18th November 2018
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Manholes lifted are foul not rain water unfortunately

NightDriver

1,080 posts

227 months

Sunday 18th November 2018
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I must not live far from you (I’m towards the top of warwicks bench) and I’ve walked my dog along the footpath at the end of your drive for years.

The driveways always flooded in very heavy rain as far as I remember, but I can’t remember is I ever noticed the garage getting flooded. I actually commented to my wife it was strange no drainage was put in when you did the granite sets!

My personal view is the whole thing is much worse because the whole driveway was tarmacced with no consideration to surface drainage, especially bad considering the garage appears to be at the low point of the driveway.

Personally I would put some drainage channels in at the start of the driveway, dig a drainage ditch and then put another drainage channel at the front of the garage and in front of the front door (belt and braces). It’s going to cost a bit to get right but I know a very good local drainage guy who would do a decent job and not rip you off (as most tradesman seem to want to round here!)


fastgerman

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1,915 posts

196 months

Sunday 18th November 2018
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Thanks and yes please for the recommendation

Attached shows:

Bottom right - how it was I.e. water just running down the hill onto our drive

Bottom left - small speed bump to slow water + reshaped road to direct water to drain + drain (grid not pipes yet) tripled in size.

Top - as it is now with area of tarmac removed, sandy soil + turf.

Agreed we need to get the rest of the tarmac up also along with your other suggestions. Must have had tarmac over 10 years? We’ve been here 2.

Cheers


fastgerman

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1,915 posts

196 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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And this work done last year - there was a pipe already but it was collapsed with tree roots going through it. Our drive (bins photo) is to the left of this.

We went halves with the council (to get the above work done) along with some private surveys and cleaning, again just to get it done.

There is further high cost work (larger drains along the road) that the local MP is also pushing but will be 2-3 years away...

Edited by fastgerman on Monday 19th November 12:50

sas62

5,660 posts

79 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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guitarcarfanatic said:
Surely the daughter just denies all knowledge? It was her mothers house, they may have had an estranged relationship and she could not have been party to the facts ref. flooding?
But if that was the case she could not definitively say there was no flooding as she appears to have attested to.

NightDriver

1,080 posts

227 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Speak to Ted at AB Drainworks.

I wouldn’t rely on anything with this council regarding timeframes. This is the same bunch who were given a load of extra funding to resurface a number of key roads, overspent on the first 25% of the roads, running out of money and so just stopped. Now they won’t do the rest of the roads until they get given more funding, unknown timescale (and I’m sure they’ll manage to mis-spend that as well).

Condi

17,259 posts

172 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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sas62 said:
But if that was the case she could not definitively say there was no flooding as she appears to have attested to.
She can only reply to the best of her knowledge, which is all the sellers form asks.

I would also say there is a reasonable argument that occasional water ingress into the garage during very heavy rain isnt 'flooding', but is simply just heavy rain and inadequate drainage.


But the OP is still making mountains out of molehills, just put a French drain, or slot drain as I linked to earlier, across the front of your drive, and connect into the nearest rainwater drain or stream. Be much cheaper than spending £10k with the council.

fastgerman

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1,915 posts

196 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Our gutters go to foul water as with everything else directly from the house. The drains lifted in other pictures are foul water.

We have 3 very small grids (15cm Ish) in the middle of the drive that we think join to rain water opposite the house (photo above showing the ground dug with a trench). Either way they don’t have capacity to take away large volumes of water.

Yes, a French drain makes sense by the gates (to flow onto the footpath opposite) but no point installing grids by the house as we can’t connect to foul water and the drains above don’t have capacity. Soak aways also wouldn’t have capacity.

Cheers

227bhp

10,203 posts

129 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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If lifting that manhole cover in your pic cures it i'd be working with that. First tester would be drilling some holes in it, if that works then something better.

herewego

8,814 posts

214 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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227bhp said:
If lifting that manhole cover in your pic cures it i'd be working with that. First tester would be drilling some holes in it, if that works then something better.
Aren't you concerned that it's a foul drain with a sealed cover?

227bhp

10,203 posts

129 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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herewego said:
227bhp said:
If lifting that manhole cover in your pic cures it i'd be working with that. First tester would be drilling some holes in it, if that works then something better.
Aren't you concerned that it's a foul drain with a sealed cover?
I'd be more concerned about my house and garage flooding.