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Flibble

6,475 posts

182 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Alucidnation said:
Our decorator used the bare plaster paint on a rental of ours after it was refurbished, and while having brilliant opacity, it did not stick all that well to bare plaster.

He said they would go back to misting.
Interesting. I found it stuck fine, but I did a first coat with about a 20% water dilution so maybe that helped.

dickymint

24,380 posts

259 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Alucidnation said:
Our decorator used the bare plaster paint on a rental of ours after it was refurbished, and while having brilliant opacity, it did not stick all that well to bare plaster.

He said they would go back to misting.
Snake oil - mist coat in a tub hehe

bernhund

3,767 posts

194 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Surely nothing can be better, cheaper or easier than a mist coat of paint? I use SBR for sealing before tiling but if there are any areas where I've overlapped into a painted area, the paint slides around on it and is a pain in the arse.

Flibble

6,475 posts

182 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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bernhund said:
Surely nothing can be better, cheaper or easier than a mist coat of paint? I use SBR for sealing before tiling but if there are any areas where I've overlapped into a painted area, the paint slides around on it and is a pain in the arse.
Bare plaster paint is thicker so easier to apply without making a mess and covers the plaster better as it's more opaque.
Cheaper, not that much in it.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

171 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Flibble said:
Alucidnation said:
Our decorator used the bare plaster paint on a rental of ours after it was refurbished, and while having brilliant opacity, it did not stick all that well to bare plaster.

He said they would go back to misting.
Interesting. I found it stuck fine, but I did a first coat with about a 20% water dilution so maybe that helped.
Must admit I didn’t question the decorators when they said about it.

Maybe I’ll get them to try a little thinning next time.

Having said that, it is astonishing how well it covers!

dhutch

14,390 posts

198 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Flibble said:
Bare plaster paint is thicker so easier to apply without making a mess and covers the plaster better as it's more opaque.
Which is great for a tradie im sure, but if it doesnt stick they your still buggered 6months down the line or next time you come to repaint!

I did one mist coat and a top coat, 10l boggo brill white, but Dulux rather than any unbranded/crown milk and it covered fine.
Looked better 2 years later when I did a second top coat to spruce it up to sell, but even then three coats doesnt take that long.
Obviously the mist coat and ceiling dont need cutting in, and you often need two coats of a colour even over white anyway.


Daniel

allegro

1,133 posts

205 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Its all about wall dryness. Ours took over a year to get round to painting and the plaster paint stuck like sh*t to a blanket

mart 63

2,070 posts

245 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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I find Armstead contact matt is the best value for money.

dickymint

24,380 posts

259 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Pondered over this for a while - I think we all know that painting onto “wet” plaster is a no no. So how “dry” should it be? And why don’t paint manufacturers state it on the tins? (Maybe they do?).

Turns out that above 12% moisture content plaster shouldn’t be painted unless sealed.

Ps. never seen a painter use a moisture meter!!

Edited by dickymint on Monday 17th December 19:23

dhutch

14,390 posts

198 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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dickymint said:
Pondered over this for a while - I think we all know that painting onto “wet” plaster is a no no. So how “dry” should it be? And why don’t paint manufacturers state it on the tins? (Maybe they do?)
Wait till in changes colour nd doesn't feel cold and wet!

dickymint

24,380 posts

259 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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dhutch said:
dickymint said:
Pondered over this for a while - I think we all know that painting onto “wet” plaster is a no no. So how “dry” should it be? And why don’t paint manufacturers state it on the tins? (Maybe they do?)
Wait till in changes colour nd doesn't feel cold and wet!
I think your keyboard may be missing a few letters wink