Log burner installation advice needed

Log burner installation advice needed

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AudiSport

Original Poster:

1,458 posts

217 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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^ Looks great, enjoying it?

hkp57

285 posts

123 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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AudiSport said:
^ Looks great, enjoying it?
Yes its the best thing we have done to the house by far.

Initially we burn logs getting everything up to temp then chuck on a briquette log and dampen the air down and keeps us going rest of the evening on a single log. http://www.champfleurieestate.co.uk/acatalog/info-...


Cats were not to sure to start with.






princeperch

7,931 posts

248 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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The cats will get over their fears and soon you won't be able to get them out of the way of it ..

chrisch77

628 posts

76 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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mcg_ said:
You dont have to line the chimney for a log burner, the same as you’ve not lined it for the open fire. Hopefully you smoke tested the existing chimney and there were no leaks?
Not true - A flue liner IS normally required for a log burner, not because of the fuel type (which is of course the same as an open fire) but because the chimney flue built for an open fire is far too large in diameter for a log burner to work. The flue has to be reduced in size to speed up the flow of gases to make a closed log burner draw correctly. With too large a flue the fire will never get going and/or smoke will not draw up the flue and could try to come out into the room.

As with most non car related subjects on this forum, I suggest the OP is probably best to consult an expert that sells and installs log burners for accurate advice.

dave_s13

13,814 posts

270 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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My next big DIY job in the new year is to rip this POS out fit a stove and redecorate.

All the info on how to do it properly is freely available online. I've got a roofer lined up to help me drop a flue liner down, got some left over paving to fashion a hearth. I hope to get it all sorted for less than £1200.....


dave_s13

13,814 posts

270 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2019
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Busy day today....looks like this now.

I severely underestimated the amount of rubble waste and sodding dust this would produce!!

Decided I'm going to clean up the brickwork inside rather than tile it as planned originally and just replaster the front 2 faces.

Then redecorate.

Swept the flu and its a dead straight route up too and all looks nice and clear so dropping the liner down is going to be a doddle. Temp stuffed if with an old cushion and some blankets to keep the draft out for now.

Looking forward to getting it finished.

Krikkit

26,541 posts

182 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2019
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We've just had a log burner fitted to replace the knackered gas fire in our new house, £1300 all in.

Due to the age of the house it didn't require a flue liner, and having an external chimney means it sits nicely too. 5kW keeps the place nice and warm, even if it's more expensive than turning the heating up a notch, the smell and toasty feet alone are almost worth it.

Get a HETAS qualified guy to come have a look at the current situation then you can find out the best way to go.

Wozy68

5,392 posts

171 months

Thursday 3rd January 2019
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chrisch77 said:
mcg_ said:
You dont have to line the chimney for a log burner, the same as you’ve not lined it for the open fire. Hopefully you smoke tested the existing chimney and there were no leaks?
Not true - A flue liner IS normally required for a log burner, not because of the fuel type (which is of course the same as an open fire) but because the chimney flue built for an open fire is far too large in diameter for a log burner to work. The flue has to be reduced in size to speed up the flow of gases to make a closed log burner draw correctly. With too large a flue the fire will never get going and/or smoke will not draw up the flue and could try to come out into the room.

As with most non car related subjects on this forum, I suggest the OP is probably best to consult an expert that sells and installs log burners for accurate advice.
Incorrect, it might help draw etc but you do not have to have a liner if it passes the smoke test etc. Mine hasn’t and it was installed by a wood burner company.

hkp57

285 posts

123 months

Thursday 3rd January 2019
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dave_s13 said:
I severely underestimated the amount of rubble waste and sodding dust this would produce!!

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We were the same, even though everything was covered in plastic the dust gets everywhere.




4Q

3,364 posts

145 months

Thursday 3rd January 2019
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townfanjon said:
Get a HETAS installer
The installer doesn't have to be HETAS anymore as there a now other competent persons schemes they can register on for solid fuel installs including; OFTEC, NAPIT, STROMA, etc.

princeperch

7,931 posts

248 months

Thursday 3rd January 2019
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When I did our liner I forgot to cover the chairs etc

Came down stairs to my mate coughing and spluttering and to what looked like a post apocalyptic scene.

The missus happened to come back at almost that exact moment and went ballistic. Nearly led to divorce. Took quite a while to tidy up and the soot broke a hoover in the process.

The stove is nice though.

dave_s13

13,814 posts

270 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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There's mine done. 6days it took start to finish....not full days mind as did it in between kids stuff.

Cost 1k all in. The only thing I didn't do myself was get on the roof but got someone via FB marketplace who had no sense of self preservation (who needs roof ladders or a harness?!!) and valued his life at the princely sum of £50. Who am I judge.

Yep, I know it's now hetas signed off if bldg reg approved but I've done it in accordance with all the regs and taken loads of photos and kept receipts for the stuff I've used (fireproof stuff) so I'll work about that if I ever move house.

It's lovely anyway, kicks out loads of lovely heat . Just need to build a log store now!

Stove is a saltfire bignut 5 tall, from eBay. Flue kit off eBay too. Very please with it. It weighs a metric fkton btw.

Edited by dave_s13 on Tuesday 8th January 15:29

dave_s13

13,814 posts

270 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Log stores???

Do you have yours at the front of the house, close to where they drop it. Or lug it all round the back. I'm thinking front myself???

hkp57

285 posts

123 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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dave_s13 said:
Log stores???

Do you have yours at the front of the house, close to where they drop it. Or lug it all round the back. I'm thinking front myself???
Ours is out front, a storage chest with slatted sides big enough for a big builders bag full.which lasted 5 weeks across the Christmas holidays

SlimJ

387 posts

230 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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We had 2 open fireplaces when we moved in.

Our inglenook was not used and had an electric 'woodburner' fire. This was duly removed and replaced with a Chesney's Salisbury 8kw woodburner, which quite frankly heats the whole of our old cottage pretty well during the depths of winter.



We also had an open fireplace in our living room, which we used once but found the heat it gave our was pretty poor. So we replaced this with another Chesney's Beaumont 5kw burner which heats our living room nicely.



On occasions when we do have both burners running and can quite easily get the temperature downstairs upto 30 degrees!

Quite honestly the best money we've spent on our house in the 3 years we have been there.

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mcg_

1,445 posts

93 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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SlimJ said:
We had 2 open fireplaces when we moved in.





Edited by SlimJ on Wednesday 9th January 10:40


Edited by SlimJ on Wednesday 9th January 10:45
Really like this, thanks for posting.

We currently have a yeoman CL5 and it's been great. (best pic i've got on here)

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We're (hopefully) moving house soon and annoyingly there are 7 fire places in the house and the only one we want to use the chimney has been removed!! It originally went on the outside then up to the first floor by the look of it. At one point the house was a bakery I understand, hence the oven or something in the lounge, be interesting to explore it a more.





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