Planning Nightmare

[anonymous-user]

V8RX7 said:

After I'd reported someone for a throwaway remark, that most of us have probably been guilty of, I'd have stopped.

I wouldn't have gone on about it and I certainly wouldn't be fanning the flames

Because I don't agree with bullying and that's what this has become IMO

But it wasn't a throwaway remark was it, it was a planning decision made incorrectly, held up by an independent investigation

[M3ax]

I agree with Keyser here (despite his preference for a particular football team). These decisions can affect people’s lives and businesses. It’s about being found to be guilty of a breach of law, not just a random “picking on someone for the hell of it PH style thing”.

[Stedman]

V6 Pushfit said:

He’s a Walt

[Alucidnation]

Must admit I think this is all a bit cringe and probably bordering on harassment IMO.

A member made, what could be considered a random remark, was reported to his ‘bosses’, and from what we have been told, has not been removed from his position.

And yet we have a member here who is still hell bent on getting him removed.

And no actual proof of what really happened.

Unless I am missing something.

[PositronicRay]

Alucidnation said:

Must admit I think this is all a bit cringe and probably bordering on harassment IMO.

A member made, what could be considered a random remark, was reported to his ‘bosses’, and from what we have been told, has not been removed from his position.

And yet we have a member here who is still hell bent on getting him removed.

And no actual proof of what really happened.

Unless I am missing something.

It's all a bit odd, however someone in public office should be bright enough not to indulge in online willy waving.

[Ilovejapcrap]

paulrockliffe said:

ColinM50 said:

I know from discussions after the vote, that I, and at least two other councillors, were on the verge of rejecting the application. Until we had a very well spoken parish councillor as an objector call us all a bunch of lying effers.

It's all OK, they don't take bribes, they just make decisions based on emotion rather than fact and the law.

Staggering.

You worded it much better than me. But exactly what I thought upon reading this

[anonymous-user]

Alucidnation said:

Must admit I think this is all a bit cringe and probably bordering on harassment IMO.

A member made, what could be considered a random remark, was reported to his ‘bosses’, and from what we have been told, has not been removed from his position.

And yet we have a member here who is still hell bent on getting him removed.

And no actual proof of what really happened.

Unless I am missing something.

The only reason he has not been removed is they seemingly don't have the power, he was recommended to resign having been found in the wrong but ignored it

This forum makes me chuckle

If a copper pulled a woman over, found her to be twice the limit but let her off cos she had a nice arse people would be apoplectic

[Equus]

paulrockliffe said:

ColinM50 said:

I know from discussions after the vote, that I, and at least two other councillors, were on the verge of rejecting the application. Until we had a very well spoken parish councillor as an objector call us all a bunch of lying effers.

It's all OK, they don't take bribes, they just make decisions based on emotion rather than fact and the law.

Staggering.

Let's also not forget what this statement led to:

in continuation ColinM50 said:

Now I'm not for one moment {suggesting} that you persuade a friend to be an objector and abuse the planners but it might work. Not ethical but.......

So not only do we have an elected representative who openly admitted making a decision for unethical reasons, but he also suggested that others should deliberately try to pervert the proper outcome of an application.

Now don't get me wrong... I routinely represent both developers and objectors in the Planning process, and I'm certainly not above a bit of gamesmanship where I believe it can assist my clients' interests, on either side of the fence. They're paying me to deliver an outcome for them, and my job is to do that to the best of my abilities, within the law.... though I've never resorted to anything remotely as extreme as suggested above.

It's a very different matter when someone who has put himself forward to be elected to a position of power above his peers, to administer that system impartially, for the public trust, then both admits to perverting the outcome of an application for selfish reasons himself, and recommends strategies by which other can do the same.

[CoolHands]

He’s a retired old duffer and that’s exactly how I imagine most of those planning committees work outside major conurbations.

[s2sol]

While I agree that Colin's stupidity is entirely wrong, he can't be forced to resign. He hasn't been shamed into resigning, so he can still do what he does, in the manner he chooses.

Equus drives me fking mad with the apparently random italics, bold characters and ellipses. Some with three periods, some with four or five.

Good luck with the witch hunt. See if you can drive the idiot to suicide or something, if that's what you want, but it's abundantly clear that you've done all you can to discredit him, and he's thumbing his nose at you.

[lampchair]

Alucidnation said:

Must admit I think this is all a bit cringe and probably bordering on harassment IMO.

A member made, what could be considered a random remark, was reported to his ‘bosses’, and from what we have been told, has not been removed from his position.

And yet we have a member here who is still hell bent on getting him removed.

And no actual proof of what really happened.

Unless I am missing something.

That’s how I read it too.

[Equus]

s2sol said:

.......it's abundantly clear that you've done all you can to discredit him..

I've barely even started yet......

.. and if I'm doing ellipses, I'm damned if I know how. Must be a glitch with your browser.

[s2sol]

Equus said:

I've barely even started yet......

.. and if I'm doing ellipses, I'm damned if I know how. Must be a glitch with your browser.

As I said, good luck with the witch hunt. You internet hard man, you.

[Equus]

s2sol said:

You internet hard man, you.

I wasn't the one who failed to turn up at the Planning meeting he was scheduled to attend on Monday night.

[Rewe]

I would nearly always be in the anti-vigilante camp.

However, a misuse of power from someone in a public office is despicable and that person can no right to remain in post. Let’s bear in mind that none of this is guesswork; councillor Colin‘s own words are clear.

[princeperch]

Equus said:

I wasn't the one who failed to turn up at the Planning meeting he was scheduled to attend on Monday night.

I think you should both have a scrap in the car park before the next meeting to resolve this

[s2sol]

Equus said:

I wasn't the one who failed to turn up at the Planning meeting he was scheduled to attend on Monday night.

I find it a bit odd that you did turn up at a meeting you had no other reason to be at.

You've grassed him up to the council, named and shamed him on pistonheads, and he's not been forced to resign. He's also apparently refused to step down. It appears that you've wasted a fair amount of time and energy to no avail.

Crack on, though. You've clearly nothing better to do.

Edited by s2sol on Tuesday 21st January 20:57

[Equus]

Rewe said:

Let’s bear in mind that none of this is guesswork; councillor Colin‘s own words are clear.

... and it's been through due process with the Council's own Standards Committee, advised, as Colin himself has pointed out, by a barrister (who wrote the actual report giving findings that the Standards Committee accepted).

[Equus]

s2sol said:

I find it a bit odd that you did turn up at a meeting you had no business at...

I run a Planning consultancy.

I have a clear professional interest in ensuring that the system is administered lawfully, and in a way that users can have faith in.

It's actually not unusual for me to attend Planning meetings I have no application of my own at, if I'm aware that there's something being discussed that might be of interest. I can quite legitimately claim expenses back from my business, and book the time against my CPD requirements (which I can't if I'm attending because we have one of our own applications before the committee).

[princeperch]

The only thing I would say is that if you did this to a councillor around where I lived, and then bowled up at a meeting as you've done here, you'd probably be met by him and all his cousins and brothers and be supporting a flyover on the M11 within a few hours. So pick your battles!