Asbestos(?) floor tiles and adhesive
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Get a crow bar under the boards you want to lift to run your pipes and cables . Wear a mask while doing this . As you pull up the boards some tiles will break,let them fall into the void underneath. Do your jobs and screw the boards back down .Give the whole floor a 3mm coat of F.Ball 700 floor compound. Let dry ,lay carpet ,job done .
Mask wise you'll want an FFP3 one for dealing with Asbestos.
Ideally leave them down. It might be easier to just remove the boards and relay rather than stripping the boards and removing the adhesive.
I've got a load of these in my house (presumed ACM). I've just put new flooring on top. They're pretty low risk.
Ideally leave them down. It might be easier to just remove the boards and relay rather than stripping the boards and removing the adhesive.
I've got a load of these in my house (presumed ACM). I've just put new flooring on top. They're pretty low risk.
I'm in the same boat as the OP, but on a concrete kitchen floor. I know they're asbestos as I've seen exactly the same tiles at work and they tested positive.
Not worried about the asbestos risk, but want to put new lino on top and the floor has a few dings in it - this is only going to be a temporary floor so can't be bothered with self-levelling etc. - any suggestions?
Not worried about the asbestos risk, but want to put new lino on top and the floor has a few dings in it - this is only going to be a temporary floor so can't be bothered with self-levelling etc. - any suggestions?
Just thinking - would a coat of sealant (what kind? I have gallons of bitumen paint!) and then a layer of 9mm ply over that (I have a powder actuated nail gun so no probs nailing into concrete) do?
Then I can lay the lino, and when it comes to kitchen fitting time, I can just take it up and replace it with tiles?
Then I can lay the lino, and when it comes to kitchen fitting time, I can just take it up and replace it with tiles?
guindilias said:
Anyone? Pleeeeease? 
Prime and self-level now it is only a couple of hours work it would be daft to do anything else, then loose lay the lino for now or just stick around the edges so you can remove it easily.. Then you can just take up the lino and tile straight on when you do the kitchen. You do not want to lay ply onto concrete if you are going to tile it later that is just ridiculous. Might as well do the job properly now.Will the primer take to the tiles OK? And can you recommend one? The tiles are all intact, they are NOT coming up, and the lino will only be a temporary measure (possibly up to a year).
Do you think a decoupling layer like Ditra would be needed (and would it even adhere to the tiles with normal tile adhesive?) - I'm happy tiling, it is well within my DIY skills to do it, and do it well - but I am not a pro, it is just something I have learned over the years.
I want to get cracking on this ASAP as I have time off work to do it, I just need told what to use...
Do you think a decoupling layer like Ditra would be needed (and would it even adhere to the tiles with normal tile adhesive?) - I'm happy tiling, it is well within my DIY skills to do it, and do it well - but I am not a pro, it is just something I have learned over the years.
I want to get cracking on this ASAP as I have time off work to do it, I just need told what to use...
Will the primer take to the tiles OK? And can you recommend one? The tiles are all intact, they are NOT coming up, and the lino will only be a temporary measure (possibly up to a year).
Do you think a decoupling layer like Ditra would be needed (and would it even adhere to the tiles with normal tile adhesive?) - I'm happy tiling, it is well within my DIY skills to do it, and do it well - but I am not a pro, it is just something I have learned over the years.
I want to get cracking on this ASAP as I have time off work to do it, I just need told what to use...
Do you think a decoupling layer like Ditra would be needed (and would it even adhere to the tiles with normal tile adhesive?) - I'm happy tiling, it is well within my DIY skills to do it, and do it well - but I am not a pro, it is just something I have learned over the years.
I want to get cracking on this ASAP as I have time off work to do it, I just need told what to use...
Vipers said:
grumbledoak said:
Probably low risk unless you disturb them. But you have.
I would get a asbestos surveyor in to test them and find out how best to remove them safely.
Absolutely, if they contain asbestos you can't just take them to your local tip either. Best be safe seek advice.I would get a asbestos surveyor in to test them and find out how best to remove them safely.
The glue would melt under heat and they'll lift off.
Yes low risk, however better not bugger about, either pay up as it'll cost you, or just skim over the top and encapsulate.
I've probably breathed as much asbestos as Steve McQueen - I broke up an old Rayburn at my hunting cabin years ago, and could hardly see through the white clouds of insulation - thought it would be fine until I cracked the top off, the side fell off, and inside it said something along the lines of
"Rayburn Stove and asbestos Co." - so I'm shafted anyway, the asbestos doesn't bother me - I just need to know if something will stick to asbestos tiles solidly enough to tile on properly later.
"Rayburn Stove and asbestos Co." - so I'm shafted anyway, the asbestos doesn't bother me - I just need to know if something will stick to asbestos tiles solidly enough to tile on properly later.
guindilias said:
Anyone? Pleeeeease?
If it’s just Lino I’d fill the imperfections (car body filler works well for floors) and then lay the Lino.If you’re tiling the cheapest way would be a levelling compound. Double check with Ardex tech support but IIRC it’s Ardex
P82 for the primer and Arditex NA for the levelling compound.
https://ardex.co.uk/product/ardex-p-82-primer/
https://ardex.co.uk/product/arditex-na/
I found some in my house during renovations. I took a sample and had it tested. It was a ACM (Asbestos containing materiel) - in my case it was just the tile, not the glue that contained it.
I followed these guidelines for removal: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/a23.pdf and disposed of them at the local tip in the relevant way, double bagged and at a tip that would accept asbestos (not all do).
Whilst a tile that contains asbestos is one of the better forms of an ACM as its pretty well contained within other substances, its still dangerous and shouldn't be ignored.
I followed these guidelines for removal: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/guidance/a23.pdf and disposed of them at the local tip in the relevant way, double bagged and at a tip that would accept asbestos (not all do).
Whilst a tile that contains asbestos is one of the better forms of an ACM as its pretty well contained within other substances, its still dangerous and shouldn't be ignored.
Edited by TopCAD on Friday 26th April 08:38
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