Woodwork 101

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akirk

5,395 posts

115 months

Thursday 13th April 2023
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bakerstreet said:
Love the plane shelves...
Can we crowdfund your lad a duvet?! biggrin

pquinn

7,167 posts

47 months

Thursday 13th April 2023
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EmBe said:
crmcatee said:
craigthecoupe said:
Yes please.
Keeping it motoring related find a car jack that's slimline (or if not put your table up on blocks). You'll notice that the table is clamped to the bench front left but I generally lean on it when winding up as it'll lift the table as well.



Even made a video and uploaded to an old youtube account I have.



Of course; don't forget once it's in place; lock off the position or we'll be back to Oppenheimer. smile
I started out with similar, but a friend put me on to these - they're used in laboratories for raising and lowering flasks and such, they're a bit less cumbersome than a car jack.

My Bosch router has interchangeable bases (the motor assembly is removable from the rest) and the 'fixed' version of the base can be mounted to a table & used inverted as a lift. If comes with a T handle that can be inserted through the base and lets you wind the adjustment up & down from the top of the table.

That said its an expensive beast and it probably works out better overall using a simpler router and a proper lift.

EmBe

7,523 posts

270 months

Thursday 13th April 2023
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pquinn said:
My Bosch router has interchangeable bases (the motor assembly is removable from the rest) and the 'fixed' version of the base can be mounted to a table & used inverted as a lift. If comes with a T handle that can be inserted through the base and lets you wind the adjustment up & down from the top of the table.

That said its an expensive beast and it probably works out better overall using a simpler router and a proper lift.
I bought the cheapest router with the best wattage I could find as it's a second router alongside the handheld one. The table accommodates the 'top adjustment' style, but I couldn't justify the expense so homebrew it was....

wolfracesonic

7,027 posts

128 months

Thursday 13th April 2023
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Nick_MSM said:
Thanks all, a few hinge options to look at then. I wonder if this would work mounted to face of the frame? 3 of them can support 45kg apparently so should be more than strong enough. Rout a section for the knuckle to fit into on outer edge?

You can make them work but not in the way they were intended with the small leaf screwing into the edge of the door, you’d be screwing it into the back of your door, if I’m reading things right. Just to confuse you more, have a look at cranked and double cranked flush hinges, they may suit if you don’t want to completely obscure the framing.

bakerstreet

4,766 posts

166 months

Thursday 13th April 2023
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akirk said:
Love the plane shelves...
Can we crowdfund your lad a duvet?! biggrin
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We limit its usage so he doesn't get accustomed to luxury items wink

Before people panic, he has a choice of two (German language Fireman Sam...don't ask and Lego Ninjago)

l354uge

2,895 posts

122 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Trellis on a fence fell whilst we were away, fence is shared with 4 households and two refuse to do anything about the crummy old thing, luckily the lady behind was happy for me to put something up on our adjoining bit. Didn't want to go mad on the cost so rustled up this.

Question for you more knowledgable people, what products do I need to make the shed, planter, fence and trellis come together to a more consistent colour?
Wood restorer gel on the planter and shed, or stain it all?

Mr Whippy

29,075 posts

242 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Give it 18 months and it’ll all go silvery.

Then treat with a UV transparent protector, so it can all age/silver but be protected from weather/pests etc?

kevinon

815 posts

61 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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loughran said:
I've started work on a tool cabinet that I've been wanting to make for a long time. Wall hanging, about 1.2m square

SNIP

It's going to be tight. I still have stuff in drawers.



Anyway, it's going to be a slow burner but I'm pleased I've made a start.
I saw this photo a while back and loved it so much I screenshotted it.
Gotta say; it makes me feel comfortable just looking at the arrangement!

Sway

26,331 posts

195 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Is it just me that's thinking timber (including stuff like mdf) has rocketed in price?

Looking to restart a workshop, and first project is planned to be fitted wardrobes with shaker doors. Priced up in 18mm mdf for the carcasses (and drawers, as using Cut List Optimiser and doing the drawer boxes in 12mm meant I was less efficient so needed an extra sheet) - and almost fell over at the near £700 cost excluding doors, trim and hardware!

pquinn

7,167 posts

47 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Sway said:
Is it just me that's thinking timber (including stuff like mdf) has rocketed in price?
It isn't cheap but it also varies wildly in price between suppliers, just like a lot of other building products do. Highest prices look like a mix of screwing retail customers and padded list prices to allow for fat (fake) trade loyalty discounts.

I've just been pricing some sheets up and have seen a 400% price spread between suppliers for the stuff I was after.

Sway

26,331 posts

195 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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pquinn said:
Sway said:
Is it just me that's thinking timber (including stuff like mdf) has rocketed in price?
It isn't cheap but it also varies wildly in price between suppliers, just like a lot of other building products do. Highest prices look like a mix of screwing retail customers and padded list prices to allow for fat (fake) trade loyalty discounts.

I've just been pricing some sheets up and have seen a 400% price spread between suppliers for the stuff I was after.
If you've any tips for sheet goods suppliers near Chichester (or willing to deliver, an 8x4 'just' doesn't fit in my Caddy!) I'd welcome them!

I've been looking at mdf, birch ply and poplar ply.

AndrewT1275

761 posts

241 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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EmBe said:
I started out with similar, but a friend put me on to these - they're used in laboratories for raising and lowering flasks and such, they're a bit less cumbersome than a car jack.

That's superb. Ordered!

Just like you, I have a cheapo plunge router fixed under the table so I don't have to fanny about with either of the two 'good' ones when doing work on the router table. The only issue has been that adjusting it via the plunge base is extremely fiddly and I couldn't justify the cost of a proper lift.

That little lift will be a game changer.

2354519y

620 posts

152 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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l354uge said:
Trellis on a fence fell whilst we were away, fence is shared with 4 households and two refuse to do anything about the crummy old thing, luckily the lady behind was happy for me to put something up on our adjoining bit. Didn't want to go mad on the cost so rustled up this.

Question for you more knowledgable people, what products do I need to make the shed, planter, fence and trellis come together to a more consistent colour?
Wood restorer gel on the planter and shed, or stain it all?
Ronseal outdoor woodstain a good bet. Will need 3 coats to even out the differences in shades

Marcellus

7,121 posts

220 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Sway said:
Is it just me that's thinking timber (including stuff like mdf) has rocketed in price?

Looking to restart a workshop, and first project is planned to be fitted wardrobes with shaker doors. Priced up in 18mm mdf for the carcasses (and drawers, as using Cut List Optimiser and doing the drawer boxes in 12mm meant I was less efficient so needed an extra sheet) - and almost fell over at the near £700 cost excluding doors, trim and hardware!
Yes like most materials stupidly so over the past 12 months.... Currently good prices on bringing MDF in from Europe on certain sizes (15x4200, 18x4200 & 25x4200) if buying relatively large quantities (Full Trailers of 15 pallets/450sheets)

Custerdome

126 posts

24 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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I eventually finished the router table I mentioned a few posts up, I'd hoped it would be a weekend job, but probably spent about 40 hours on it. It could have looked a lot nicer I suppose, but I wanted to use mostly scrap/offcuts and couldn't really justify £150+ on a sheet of birch ply. The ply I used was completely crap but, as I kept telling myself, it's not a piece of furniture. It would have been nice to get all the cuts right and have the grain run across the whole thing though. Getting everything square and straight was a priority, - I suspect a table saw would have helped, but I don’t have the room.

It ended up being a mixture of crap ply, birch ply, oak and beech.

I've not used it in anger yet and am thinking about fitting a perspex guard on the fence guide and maybe a hose coupler on the back so I can connect it up to the extraction unit/vacuum.

It folds up quite small and is surprisingly (and reassuringly...) heavy.

Anyway, as promised, a few pics:

Starting with the base and swinging side supports (flappy paddles?), - screw and glue (as was pretty much everything).





Piano hinges for flappy paddles and top centre bit.



Finished job, ready to use.



View along the top showing fence base and rails. Holes in shelves to stow bits (and probably bobs)





Folding up:





I'm going to have a go at a jewellery box for the next job, it'll involve a bit of veneering, which I've never tried before. Not at least since I was at school, and IIRC it involved a live horse (possibly, if only just) and some sort of cauldron.

marksx

5,052 posts

191 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Pics not working. I think there's a thumbsnap issue.

Origin Unknown

2,297 posts

170 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Some advice please. My son has taken a keen interest in Chess which makes a welcome change from gaming. For my next project I’m going to make him a chess board and turn all the pieces by hand. I can take as long as I want so suits me as a project. Axminster have a great tutorial I’ll be following using the same materials… oak and sycamore.

On to the question, I have this lathe https://www.sealey.co.uk/product/5637200282/4-spee...

It’s a little basic but good for me as a hobbiest. Can I have a recommendation for a four jaw chuck? Doesn’t need to be rolls royce but equally not an Alibaba lottery item.

Custerdome

126 posts

24 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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marksx said:
Pics not working. I think there's a thumbsnap issue.
Hmmm, not sure what's going on there, they appear on my screen but take a while to download. Uploading took an age and a few attempts. A Thumbsnap issue sounds about right.

wolfracesonic

7,027 posts

128 months

Friday 21st April 2023
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Custerdome said:
Hmmm, not sure what's going on there, they appear on my screen but take a while to download. Uploading took an age and a few attempts. A Thumbsnap issue sounds about right.
Spent some time looking at the pics, still working out how it all folds up into the box at the endlaugh Looks an ingenious solution if space is at a premium.

Custerdome

126 posts

24 months

Saturday 22nd April 2023
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The shelves supporting the ends of the work top fold back into the box, see below, and then the ends of the worktop fold down over them. It's got a bit of a deckchair feel to it, I might fit a couple of magnets to hold the shelf panels in place once folded, just to avoid the inevitable foul language scenario when a finger gets trapped.