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thebraketester

14,248 posts

139 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Yeah thats not a bad idea.... Ive got a pocket hole jig so that would be easy. Good idea, thanks.

loughran

2,754 posts

137 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Another way would be to simply screw everything together.

Screw down through the top into the legs and screw through the legs into the cross brace at the back. You will be screwing into endgrain but if you use a substantial screw like a Reisser 5.0 x 60mm and drill a 3mm pilot hole you'll get a good fix.

Counterbore the holes you drill for the screws, glue and screw everything together and then plug the counterbore holes with plugs cut from an offcut.

https://www.google.com/search?q=plug+cutter&cl...

Trim the plugs flush, sand everything down, apply a couple of coats of your preferred finish and if you've cut the plugs from a similar shade of wood you'll hardly notice them. Alternatively cut the plugs from a contrasting timber and impress friends and family with the honest construction detail.

Edited by loughran on Sunday 23 February 09:51

singlecoil

33,697 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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I'll add to Loughran's advice, make sure you get tapered plug cutters. I've seen good joinery ruined by plugs with visible glue lines.

loughran

2,754 posts

137 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Very good point, tapered plugs are the way to go.

Years ago, I remember the screw and plug joint was regarded with distain where traditionally a mortice and tenon would have been be used. Then in the 70s an American furniture maker called Sam Maloof started screwing stuff together and everybody relaxed a bit. smile



http://sammaloofwoodworker.com


Edited by loughran on Sunday 23 February 15:47

XCP

16,939 posts

229 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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I like that!

Mr.Grooler

1,179 posts

226 months

Saturday 7th March 2020
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Well, I’ve made the router table at last (copying most of the designs you see online) which seems to work quite well, and I’ve made the odd sized door for our bathroom too such that it matches the others we bought. Hardwood round the sides and MDF in the middle. It’s turned out quite well I think, thanks for the tips. Just need to work out how to hang it now!




wolfracesonic

7,020 posts

128 months

Saturday 7th March 2020
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Looking good, did you use a rail and stile cutter set on your router table for the frame? I think some nice brass butt hinges would go with that hardwood very nicely, though not sure what you’re fitting the door into.

Mr.Grooler

1,179 posts

226 months

Saturday 7th March 2020
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Thanks, the panel is 18mm MDF so I just cut short strips of 18mm MDF to join the stiles and rails together, and cut a 20mm deep 18mm slot the full length of the stiles and rails. Doing the length of the stiles was a little tricky as the stiles are about three times as long as the router table I made (two passes with a half inch cutter) but managed to get it a tight enough fit that I had to use a mallet to get it assembled. The big clamps were about £8 each from B&Q and really helped. Anyway, ordering the door custom made would have been a few hundred quid so my man maths has fully justified the chop saw and a few other tools I bought before I started. It’s enjoyable anyway. smile

Origin Unknown

2,297 posts

170 months

Monday 16th March 2020
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Anyone built a Dovecote before? I've committed to building one for the MIL for mothers day.

This looks a reasonable guide with some usable dimensions and materials. I'll keep this thread updated.

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Dovecot_/_Bird...

wolfracesonic

7,020 posts

128 months

Monday 16th March 2020
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Have you started it yet? Cutting it a bit fine if not. I’ve not built one before but as it’s for the MIL I’d suggest interior grade 3mm mdf, 25mm panel pins and the most toxic timber preservative you can illegally obtain, or, if she’s a good ‘un, western red cedar, stainless fasteners and an accompanying bunch of flowersthumbup

Origin Unknown

2,297 posts

170 months

Monday 16th March 2020
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Ha! No way it'll be ready in time, the wife only just decided to ask me today!

What are your thoughts on the materials used in that link Wolfracesonic? It'll be painted more or less as shown in the link.

wolfracesonic

7,020 posts

128 months

Monday 16th March 2020
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I think for a home diy project that’s going to be painted, osb3 and cls will be fine; will it be here in 50 years time? Probably not but neither will you, me or the mother lawbiggrin

loughran

2,754 posts

137 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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Mr.Grooler said:
Well, I’ve made the router table at last (copying most of the designs you see online) which seems to work quite well, and I’ve made the odd sized door for our bathroom too such that it matches the others we bought. Hardwood round the sides and MDF in the middle. It’s turned out quite well I think, thanks for the tips. Just need to work out how to hang it now!



Your door looks great, you must be really pleased ! When you were planning the joints I didn't realise it was such a big door. Any progress with the hinging/hanging ?

It's been wardrobes for me this week with a slide out shoe rack. The faff factor has been high.


C Lee Farquar

4,069 posts

217 months

Wednesday 18th March 2020
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That's impressive

wolfracesonic

7,020 posts

128 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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loughran said:
It's been wardrobes for me this week with a slide out shoe rack. The faff factor has been high.
What was the faff part, getting an equal margin around the slide open door? Looks well though, I’m guessing it won’t be filled with shoes from TK Maxxbiggrin

XCP

16,939 posts

229 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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wolfracesonic said:
What was the faff part, getting an equal margin around the slide open door? Looks well though, I’m guessing it won’t be filled with shoes from TK Maxxbiggrin
I am ashamed to say that mine would be too big to fit in there...


loughran

2,754 posts

137 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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After all the planning, I did get a bit worried about whether it would accommodate the customers shoes but anything up to 13" long will fit. When I first met these customers the husband asked if I'd ever seen the film Overboard with Goldie Hawn and could he have a shoe rack like that. eek Fortunately they decided against it... that would have been a faff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuk6MZtJhu4

The faff with this rack is the runner it runs on. Nice bit of kit, it cost £450, but mounting and dismounting the heavy rack is fiddly. And yes, mounting the door when you can't get into the cabinet unless the door is open had its moments. smile

XCP

16,939 posts

229 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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Nice work.

Drive it fix it repeat

1,046 posts

52 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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100% solid oak TV stand I made a while back.

Drive it fix it repeat

1,046 posts

52 months

Thursday 19th March 2020
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The joinery pays the bills and the wood turning is more of a hobby though I do make occasional requested one offs.