Drill / Driver for Home Use
Discussion
JuanCarlosFandango said:
May I politely suggest you're over thinking it a bit?
I just finished putting up a plasterboard ceiling with a wooden frame in a roughly 12×10' room. The frame was bolted to concrete block walls which is the only thing which tested the impact gun a bit, though they all went in. 2 1.3Ah batteries outlasted me between cups of coffee, and the brush motor, plastic chuck Dewalt drill and impact gun proved perfectly capable.
If I was doing it all day every day I would possibly go for a couple of bigger batteries and fewer cups of coffee but for the £150 they cost me 3 years ago these were more than adequate.
I dare say a Makita or blue Bosch would have been just as good. I don't see how it could have been so much better that I would pay double, though I can imagine it being worse for a fairly small saving.
This.I just finished putting up a plasterboard ceiling with a wooden frame in a roughly 12×10' room. The frame was bolted to concrete block walls which is the only thing which tested the impact gun a bit, though they all went in. 2 1.3Ah batteries outlasted me between cups of coffee, and the brush motor, plastic chuck Dewalt drill and impact gun proved perfectly capable.
If I was doing it all day every day I would possibly go for a couple of bigger batteries and fewer cups of coffee but for the £150 they cost me 3 years ago these were more than adequate.
I dare say a Makita or blue Bosch would have been just as good. I don't see how it could have been so much better that I would pay double, though I can imagine it being worse for a fairly small saving.
People are seemingly obsessed with the capacity of their batteries.
Buy a drill with 2 batteries. While you are using one, the other is charging.
The green Bosch the op linked to in his opening post is more than adequate for most DIY tasks - I've had one for years and it has been battered but it is still going strong.
Save your money and put it towards a good corded drill for the tougher tasks.
Edited by Red 4 on Wednesday 21st August 13:35
Red 4 said:
JuanCarlosFandango said:
May I politely suggest you're over thinking it a bit?
I just finished putting up a plasterboard ceiling with a wooden frame in a roughly 12×10' room. The frame was bolted to concrete block walls which is the only thing which tested the impact gun a bit, though they all went in. 2 1.3Ah batteries outlasted me between cups of coffee, and the brush motor, plastic chuck Dewalt drill and impact gun proved perfectly capable.
If I was doing it all day every day I would possibly go for a couple of bigger batteries and fewer cups of coffee but for the £150 they cost me 3 years ago these were more than adequate.
I dare say a Makita or blue Bosch would have been just as good. I don't see how it could have been so much better that I would pay double, though I can imagine it being worse for a fairly small saving.
This.I just finished putting up a plasterboard ceiling with a wooden frame in a roughly 12×10' room. The frame was bolted to concrete block walls which is the only thing which tested the impact gun a bit, though they all went in. 2 1.3Ah batteries outlasted me between cups of coffee, and the brush motor, plastic chuck Dewalt drill and impact gun proved perfectly capable.
If I was doing it all day every day I would possibly go for a couple of bigger batteries and fewer cups of coffee but for the £150 they cost me 3 years ago these were more than adequate.
I dare say a Makita or blue Bosch would have been just as good. I don't see how it could have been so much better that I would pay double, though I can imagine it being worse for a fairly small saving.
[b]People are seemingly obsessed with the capacity of their batteries.
Buy a drill with 2 batteries. While you are using one, the other is charging.[/b]
The green Bosch the op linked to in his opening post is more than adequate for most DIY tasks - I've had one for years and it has been battered but it is still going strong.
Save your money and put it towards a good corded drill for the tougher tasks.
Edited by Red 4 on Wednesday 21st August 13:35
2 x 1.3Ah are about as useful as a chocolate teapot if you want to future proof your kit. It’s not an obsession it’s common sense.
dickymint said:
Until you decide to go battery strimmer, hedge cutter even lawn mower and/or chainsaw!!
2 x 1.3Ah are about as useful as a chocolate teapot if you want to future proof your kit. It’s not an obsession it’s common sense.
Nope.2 x 1.3Ah are about as useful as a chocolate teapot if you want to future proof your kit. It’s not an obsession it’s common sense.
Common sense is not going battery powered for the tools you mentioned.
Too much faff, unreliability and replacement batteries.
I'll stick to plugging stuff in, thanks.
Red 4 said:
dickymint said:
Until you decide to go battery strimmer, hedge cutter even lawn mower and/or chainsaw!!
2 x 1.3Ah are about as useful as a chocolate teapot if you want to future proof your kit. It’s not an obsession it’s common sense.
Nope.2 x 1.3Ah are about as useful as a chocolate teapot if you want to future proof your kit. It’s not an obsession it’s common sense.
Common sense is not going battery powered for the tools you mentioned.
Too much faff, unreliability and replacement batteries.
I'll stick to plugging stuff in, thanks.
dickymint said:
Red 4 said:
dickymint said:
Until you decide to go battery strimmer, hedge cutter even lawn mower and/or chainsaw!!
2 x 1.3Ah are about as useful as a chocolate teapot if you want to future proof your kit. It’s not an obsession it’s common sense.
Nope.2 x 1.3Ah are about as useful as a chocolate teapot if you want to future proof your kit. It’s not an obsession it’s common sense.
Common sense is not going battery powered for the tools you mentioned.
Too much faff, unreliability and replacement batteries.
I'll stick to plugging stuff in, thanks.
Or the cells have died and you need a new one.
Or it's a bigger job and you are forever charging/ swapping batteries.
Nah, I think I'll stick to an extension cable. I think I can cope.
Yeah but the OP was specifically asking about a drill and driver for DIY use. The 1.3 is adequate for this, and will work with other tools too. Of course bigger batteries are better. They're also readily available if and when that need arises.
My point was it makes little sense for the average-to-keen DIYer to agonise over metal chucks, brushless motors and 5.0Ah batteries, or to spend £500 on the best kit available to hang up a few picture frames and screw a shelf to the wall.
It does IMO make sense to buy a decent quality set from a known brand.
My point was it makes little sense for the average-to-keen DIYer to agonise over metal chucks, brushless motors and 5.0Ah batteries, or to spend £500 on the best kit available to hang up a few picture frames and screw a shelf to the wall.
It does IMO make sense to buy a decent quality set from a known brand.
Flibble said:
How often do you find your garden is a much bigger job than expected? Surely it's much the same job every time.
Leave the battery on the charger, problem solved on the dead battery issue.
Exactly - 4 x 5Ah batteries and a twin charger will sort any job around my gaff. In work there's more ammo if needs be Leave the battery on the charger, problem solved on the dead battery issue.
Anyway my main advice to anybody that wants to go cordless is don't bother with with the 'deals' with 2 Ah batteries as they will be no good going forward. It pays to spend that bit extra for the power.
Also there's been a fair bit said about the weight of larger batteries! Well guarantee that the weight/size of my impact driver is less than its corded equivalent. Weight is not an issue.
I agree with most of the comments.
For real work go for the real deal. My plunge and circular saws are Festool (corded and recharge respectively) my drill and impact are Erbauer with extra batteries. I wouldn’t be without a couple of pairs of drill/driver for me and mate fitting oak kitchens. I’m tempted by a Festool jig as my old corded makita struggles with hard woods.
But at 60 quid a pair the Erbauer drill/driver are almost disposable.
Unless you are putting up picture hooks drill/driver. Combo is unbeatable. I’ve done a load of raised sleeper planters for the wife and the driver hammers in the 9 and 12 inch Timbalok screws in no time.
For real work go for the real deal. My plunge and circular saws are Festool (corded and recharge respectively) my drill and impact are Erbauer with extra batteries. I wouldn’t be without a couple of pairs of drill/driver for me and mate fitting oak kitchens. I’m tempted by a Festool jig as my old corded makita struggles with hard woods.
But at 60 quid a pair the Erbauer drill/driver are almost disposable.
Unless you are putting up picture hooks drill/driver. Combo is unbeatable. I’ve done a load of raised sleeper planters for the wife and the driver hammers in the 9 and 12 inch Timbalok screws in no time.
dickymint said:
dmsims said:
Flibble said:
At some point I might get an impact driver, but I've not needed to yet.
Neither have I nor did the builders who did the loft conversion (in fact I have never seen a tradesman with an impact gun)
and I'm going to ask them why they don't use onedmsims said:
Flibble said:
At some point I might get an impact driver, but I've not needed to yet.
Neither have I nor did the builders who did the loft conversion (in fact I have never seen a tradesman with an impact gun)I was in Screwfix at the weekend and thought of this thread.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dck2060d2t-sfgb-...
Perfect for the keen DIYer I would think.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dck2060d2t-sfgb-...
Perfect for the keen DIYer I would think.
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