Drill / Driver for Home Use

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Dan_1981

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17,414 posts

200 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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mrpbailey said:
Rather than start another similar thread, thought I’d jump on this.
After a new drill/driver to replace my 12 year old Makita Combi.
What’s the opinion of this drill/driver combo offer from screwfix @ £249?

Looks good to me.

Alternatively this one for £50 less - it's the model up from what I bought 6 months ago, for the same price.

Guess it comes down to preference over brand?

https://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-dlx2142sm-18v-4-...



rxe

6,700 posts

104 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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I remain deeply impressed by the Bosch 10.8 volt stuff.

I was using the drill last week to make a lot of holes in 5 mm steel - it did it admirably, and was almost too hot to hold by the end of it. Unless you're doing ridiculous things with spade drills, it does everything you need - and is very small, so where access is a problem it can get in there.

Edited by rxe on Thursday 21st May 08:51

xerawh

325 posts

128 months

Wednesday 20th May 2020
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rxe said:
I remain deeply impressed by the Bosch 10.8 volt stuff.

I was using the drill last week to make a lot of holes in 5 mm steel - it did it admirably, and was almost too hold to hold by the end of it. Unless you're doing ridiculous things with spade drills, it does everything you need - and is very small, so where access is a problem it can get in there.
Do you have a link?

rxe

6,700 posts

104 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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This is the beast:

https://www.powertoolworld.co.uk/bosch-gsb-10-8-2-...

I’ve had mine for about 2 years of “hard” DIY use. It does drill, hammer and driver. The other tools in the range are good too - the “Dremel-alike” has been a lifesaver under the car occasionally.

QuartzDad

2,268 posts

123 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Another thread hijack If I may and apologies for the dumb question.

Will the impact drivers be strong enough to undo and tighten car wheel nuts? The Makita recommended earlier is rated to 165Nm, my cars' recommended settings are 120Nm and 140Nm.

As a once in a blue moon DIYer with just a 20yo corded hammer drill to my name I'm working the man maths to justify a purchase...

hotchy

4,485 posts

127 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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QuartzDad said:
Another thread hijack If I may and apologies for the dumb question.

Will the impact drivers be strong enough to undo and tighten car wheel nuts? The Makita recommended earlier is rated to 165Nm, my cars' recommended settings are 120Nm and 140Nm.

As a once in a blue moon DIYer with just a 20yo corded hammer drill to my name I'm working the man maths to justify a purchase...
You can buy an impact wrench just to make sure... man maths dictates two tools on my calculations.

Jakg

3,478 posts

169 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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QuartzDad said:
Another thread hijack If I may and apologies for the dumb question.

Will the impact drivers be strong enough to undo and tighten car wheel nuts? The Makita recommended earlier is rated to 165Nm, my cars' recommended settings are 120Nm and 140Nm.

As a once in a blue moon DIYer with just a 20yo corded hammer drill to my name I'm working the man maths to justify a purchase...
No - or at least not in my experience.

I have a 160nm Bosch impact driver and it won't undo a 120nm wheel bolt.

However - once you've loosened them it makes very quick work to take the wheels on and off and just torque it up.

normalbloke

7,469 posts

220 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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My little Milwaukee impact driver does wheel nuts quite comfortably. In fact the accessories that came with it included adapters for 1/2” drive sockets.

Carbon Sasquatch

4,666 posts

65 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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I 'crack' mine with a torque wrench when the car os on the floor, then whip them off with my little DeWalt impact driver once i've jacked it up.

Same on the return - whiz them on with the impact driver, tight enough, drop the car then torque them up with a wrench.

InitialDave

11,971 posts

120 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Carbon Sasquatch said:
I 'crack' mine with a torque wrench when the car os on the floor, then whip them off with my little DeWalt impact driver once i've jacked it up.

Same on the return - whiz them on with the impact driver, tight enough, drop the car then torque them up with a wrench.
Better to get a breaker bar for that, save the torque wrench for when you're refitting them.

Carbon Sasquatch

4,666 posts

65 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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InitialDave said:
Better to get a breaker bar for that, save the torque wrench for when you're refitting them.
Save it from what ? I guess I could use a breaker bar - just one more tool to take out to the car when I swap from winter to summer. My torque wrench is probably 20 years old & gets used twice a year - seems to be still going strong.

guindilias

5,245 posts

121 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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Has it ever been checked for accuracy? They can end up miles out if you use them as a breaker bar, and then things can go horribly wrong if you end up using them for head bolts or something like that...

Carbon Sasquatch

4,666 posts

65 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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guindilias said:
Has it ever been checked for accuracy? They can end up miles out if you use them as a breaker bar, and then things can go horribly wrong if you end up using them for head bolts or something like that...
No - but then again, it does only get used twice a year to undo the same nuts that it was used to tighten up 6 months previously.

Obviously I should use a breaker bar & calibrate the torque wrench after every use - and in the spirit of this thread, I guess I should be buying a new torque wrench - any recommendations ?

guindilias

5,245 posts

121 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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Just go for an obscenely expensive one which doesn't actually cover the torque range you actually need - then another by the same brand to match it and actually use. That should do you.

Carbon Sasquatch

4,666 posts

65 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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rofl

MatteAva

88 posts

77 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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Another thread resurrection.. I will be moving into my first house soon from a rental and I am in the market for a combi drill (and perhaps an impact driver too). Multiple people mention the advantage of buying into a system so that tools can be added at a later stage if needed.

Through the OH work, I can get this (https://shop.bosch-professional.com/gb/en/product/cordless-drill-driver-gsb-18v-55--48545--06019H5370) for around £120 with 2x 2Ah batteries. I believe this is the cheapest brushless model they do and it is only marginally more expensive than the basic bosch blue combi.

I have also seen this kit (https://www.kelvinpowertools.com/bosch-18v-gsb18v-55-combi-drill-and-gdr18v-160-impact-driver-2x-2ah-c-110-p-21160) for £200 with the same combi drill and batteries but with impact driver also included.

Do you think the driver is worth the £80 difference? The house is a new build so the use will be quite limited initially (flatpack furniture, shelfs, a bit of drilling into wood and brick walls).

Also, Is it worth considering other brands? The budget is £150-200 max and the discount I get is only on Bosch branded gear.

Edited by MatteAva on Monday 1st June 14:06

Dan_1981

Original Poster:

17,414 posts

200 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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MatteAva said:
The house is a new build so the use will be quite limited initially (flatpack furniture, shelfs, a bit of drilling into wood and brick walls).

Edited by MatteAva on Monday 1st June 14:06
I admire your optimism smile

Our house was a new build and was part of the reason for needing new tools smile

guindilias

5,245 posts

121 months

Monday 1st June 2020
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And you WILL be glad of a drill/driver when you get sick of slowly winding a soft metal allen key around for every fcensoredking shelf or other bit o furniture you assemble. A cheapo will probably do you fine for most jobs, but if you can persuade the missus that an expensive one is "an investment into our future, just like the house" - you're done, that's it. Permission granted to buy any body only tool you ever need, or don't need.
Stick them in a wall mounted display case, it's "Modern Art".

xerawh

325 posts

128 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Bought the erbauer kit mentioned earlier in this thread as a replacement for the faulty dewalt kit. Will report back on thoughts.

Bonus as the free speaker offer back on until September in case anyone wants it - ordered from Screwfix

mrpbailey

976 posts

187 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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mrpbailey said:
Rather than start another similar thread, thought I’d jump on this.
After a new drill/driver to replace my 12 year old Makita Combi.
What’s the opinion of this drill/driver combo offer from screwfix @ £249?

Bought the above Milwaukee pair recently, very very impressed. Makes my old Makita Combi feel heavy and feeble!