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John Ryan were great - but we didn't go with them partly due to their own advice. Better half has joint issues, and was about (3 years ago) to have a couple of major corrective surgeries.
They recommended going to a good local place, and gave me some advice on how to determine if they knew their stuff.
Local-ish place were superb. Taught us what to look for, and we found Somnos suited us best - but although in store we thought the top range was nicest, salesman pointed out why we'd have issues, and pointed us to an 'Upper mid' level one. £2k for a double, plus £500 for extras (pillows, protector, etc.).
Worth every penny.
They recommended going to a good local place, and gave me some advice on how to determine if they knew their stuff.
Local-ish place were superb. Taught us what to look for, and we found Somnos suited us best - but although in store we thought the top range was nicest, salesman pointed out why we'd have issues, and pointed us to an 'Upper mid' level one. £2k for a double, plus £500 for extras (pillows, protector, etc.).
Worth every penny.
Sway said:
John Ryan were great - but we didn't go with them partly due to their own advice. Better half has joint issues, and was about (3 years ago) to have a couple of major corrective surgeries.
They recommended going to a good local place, and gave me some advice on how to determine if they knew their stuff.
Local-ish place were superb. Taught us what to look for, and we found Somnos suited us best - but although in store we thought the top range was nicest, salesman pointed out why we'd have issues, and pointed us to an 'Upper mid' level one. £2k for a double, plus £500 for extras (pillows, protector, etc.).
Worth every penny.
They recommended going to a good local place, and gave me some advice on how to determine if they knew their stuff.
Local-ish place were superb. Taught us what to look for, and we found Somnos suited us best - but although in store we thought the top range was nicest, salesman pointed out why we'd have issues, and pointed us to an 'Upper mid' level one. £2k for a double, plus £500 for extras (pillows, protector, etc.).
Worth every penny.
They are good. They telephoned us and interrogated the reasoning for our choices. As a result we changed our order a bit. We went for a zip link super in the artisan range. Price? On the numbers side, high, on the comfort/wellbeing side, pennies. Would go back to them in a flash.
As me old granny would say, you need two things in life, a good pair of boots and a good bed, for if your not in one you should be in the other!!!
I would add, a good suit!
typo.
Recently got one of these -
https://www.vispring.com/en-uk/
Not at all cheap, but supposed to be one the best out there. Its pocket sprung as I find all the foam ones like sleeping in a swamp and I overheat.
Just make sure you try what you buy, as its very personal and what suits one, doesn't suit another.
Vispring also make each side a different firmness based on your what you like and your 'partners' preference.
I would say for £199 you may end up regretting that decision and spending more in the local Chiropractors
In the last 3 and a bit years we've had both a John Lewis naturals one which was deemed faulty after about 18 months as both my Wife and I found it extremely uncomfortable and there were big dips forming where we'd lay down (we were turning/flipping the mattress as advised). We then swapped that for a Vispring and are in the process of having that investigated as that too has dips in it now, to the extent that I wake up with shoulder/neck pain on a daily basis.
Suffice to say it's put me off having another sprung mattress as we've either been extremely unlucky with two faulty mattresses in a row or a sprung mattress simply doesn't work for us. Leaning towards a Simba to replace it.
Suffice to say it's put me off having another sprung mattress as we've either been extremely unlucky with two faulty mattresses in a row or a sprung mattress simply doesn't work for us. Leaning towards a Simba to replace it.
Edited by Stevil on Wednesday 2nd October 16:55
After trying goodness knows how many, including Hypnos which didn't even get on the shortlist, ended up with a Salus Meadow 4450 Natural. Pocket spring and the fillings for the top layer include lamb's wool, alpaca and pashmina.
All previous mattresses we have bought have needed a few nights breaking in. This was supremely comfortable from night 1 minute 1 and remains so.
All previous mattresses we have bought have needed a few nights breaking in. This was supremely comfortable from night 1 minute 1 and remains so.
Been doing bits of research over the last year since we moved into our first house. Looking to upgrade to a super king. Budget is fairly limited due to requiring base and headboard too.
Originally was looking at the memory foam types but I'm not sure they're for us. Although have been thinking that we won't lose anything by trying one out for a month or two.
The Premier Inn mattress seemed a good shout and we enjoyed a stay in one recently (albeit a bit too drunk to think about and appreciate the comfort of the mattress). However, the pillow top design kind of puts me off, is it just going to end up flat and worn quickly and without the option to flip the mattress?
Just found that travelodge do a sleepeezee mattress in 1000 and 1400 spring. Looks a good contender however not much in the way of recommendations or reviews out there.
John Ryan are slightly out of budget and only do zip and link super king. Maybe that's not a bad thing but didn't really want the hassle of a topper or to feel the dip... We don't necessarily keep to our own sides and she likes to sprawl out as soon as I'm out of bed.
IKEA? Seen a few positive reviews and they are very cheap
Originally was looking at the memory foam types but I'm not sure they're for us. Although have been thinking that we won't lose anything by trying one out for a month or two.
The Premier Inn mattress seemed a good shout and we enjoyed a stay in one recently (albeit a bit too drunk to think about and appreciate the comfort of the mattress). However, the pillow top design kind of puts me off, is it just going to end up flat and worn quickly and without the option to flip the mattress?
Just found that travelodge do a sleepeezee mattress in 1000 and 1400 spring. Looks a good contender however not much in the way of recommendations or reviews out there.
John Ryan are slightly out of budget and only do zip and link super king. Maybe that's not a bad thing but didn't really want the hassle of a topper or to feel the dip... We don't necessarily keep to our own sides and she likes to sprawl out as soon as I'm out of bed.
IKEA? Seen a few positive reviews and they are very cheap
) with a mattress topper. Seems fine, certainly the family member whose bed it is has back trouble, as in trouble getting their back off and out of bed.iacabu said:
However, the pillow top design kind of puts me off, is it just going to end up flat and worn quickly and without the option to flip the mattress?
IKEA? Seen a few positive reviews and they are very cheap
Precisely !IKEA? Seen a few positive reviews and they are very cheap
I took their foam one back - it dipped pretty quickly, in the returns queue of 9, were three more mattresses.
iacabu said:
John Ryan are slightly out of budget and only do zip and link super king. Maybe that's not a bad thing but didn't really want the hassle of a topper or to feel the dip... We don't necessarily keep to our own sides and she likes to sprawl out as soon as I'm out of bed.
Can't help with the budget - but no issue with the zip and link - we have a John Ryan zip and link superking - fantastic.- no topper on it
- yes you can work out where the join is (if you wish to - and it is perhaps a good arbiter of who is on whose side?!) - however you don't notice it in general use, any good mattress has a sculptured shape to it as the cord that ties it down makes dips in the mattress - and this just feels like a part of the shape
- sprawled out over it - no issue - on ours the only thing you notice is that we have different levels of firmness
- their mattresses are such high quality that they are very heavy - no way would you want one superking sized mattress - they struggled getting effectively two single mattresses up the stairs and around the corner due to weight and lack of flex - and that is in a very open shaped house - not sure a superking could have come in as one piece...
if you can afford it - def. worth it
akirk said:
Can't help with the budget - but no issue with the zip and link - we have a John Ryan zip and link superking - fantastic.
- no topper on it
- yes you can work out where the join is (if you wish to - and it is perhaps a good arbiter of who is on whose side?!) - however you don't notice it in general use, any good mattress has a sculptured shape to it as the cord that ties it down makes dips in the mattress - and this just feels like a part of the shape
- sprawled out over it - no issue - on ours the only thing you notice is that we have different levels of firmness
- their mattresses are such high quality that they are very heavy - no way would you want one superking sized mattress - they struggled getting effectively two single mattresses up the stairs and around the corner due to weight and lack of flex - and that is in a very open shaped house - not sure a superking could have come in as one piece...
if you can afford it - def. worth it
They stopped doing the superking as so many couldn't get them into their bedrooms rooms, unfortunately the price then jumped making it relatively expensive compared to several J Lewis and Hypnos mattresses that are still available as one piece.- no topper on it
- yes you can work out where the join is (if you wish to - and it is perhaps a good arbiter of who is on whose side?!) - however you don't notice it in general use, any good mattress has a sculptured shape to it as the cord that ties it down makes dips in the mattress - and this just feels like a part of the shape
- sprawled out over it - no issue - on ours the only thing you notice is that we have different levels of firmness
- their mattresses are such high quality that they are very heavy - no way would you want one superking sized mattress - they struggled getting effectively two single mattresses up the stairs and around the corner due to weight and lack of flex - and that is in a very open shaped house - not sure a superking could have come in as one piece...
if you can afford it - def. worth it
V8RX7 said:
They stopped doing the superking as so many couldn't get them into their bedrooms rooms, unfortunately the price then jumped making it relatively expensive compared to several J Lewis and Hypnos mattresses that are still available as one piece.
I assume that you mean as one piece? they seem to still be doing it as zip and link...the problem we had with John Lewis (other than the same setup costing c. £600 more) was that there is no trial time - you spend £3,600 on bed and mattress and if it is not comfortable - tough, money wasted...
ultimately zip and link worked for us as we needed different firmness on each side, and while many of the top companies do offer that in one mattress, it just seemed to work better with zip and link - so far, happy.
akirk said:
V8RX7 said:
They stopped doing the superking as so many couldn't get them into their bedrooms rooms, unfortunately the price then jumped making it relatively expensive compared to several J Lewis and Hypnos mattresses that are still available as one piece.
I assume that you mean as one piece? they seem to still be doing it as zip and link...the problem we had with John Lewis (other than the same setup costing c. £600 more) was that there is no trial time - you spend £3,600 on bed and mattress and if it is not comfortable - tough, money wasted...
ultimately zip and link worked for us as we needed different firmness on each side, and while many of the top companies do offer that in one mattress, it just seemed to work better with zip and link - so far, happy.
J Lewis was then cheaper than the two piece J Ryan
I still wanted a trial so I went to My Next Mattress which offered the same Hypnos with a trial (14 days IIRC)
Over the past week I've noticed what feels like a crevice opening up in my matress. Right where my shoulder is (side sleeper).
It's a relatively inexpensive silent night 800 spring memory foam hybrid jobby. Lasted for 4 years only.
Been skimming the Internet with interest and its a total Wild West out there.
Following the advice on this thread I phoned John Ryan. Totally nerdy guys who really know their onions, but also know how to explain everything to n00bs.
He asked me what we had presently and how we found it. What type of base the matress was going on. My height and weight. My wife's height and weight. What position we slept in usually.
He then went on to discuss all the options and positives and negatives of all the different kind of mattresses. He really wasn't pushy at all and even suggested other brands and manufacturers depending on what we felt was important.
The one he suggested for us was an Origins Pocket 1500, but if we found that it wasn't quite right after a few weeks to try a latex topper. If still not right then they offer 60day full refund or exchange.
Because its double sided it can be turned and therefore lasts a lot longer because it doesn't sink in the same place the whole time. All the memory foam, single sided and "topper" mattresses dip twice as fast because you can only use them on one side so they only ever get all the pressure in the same place.
He said they found this with the premier inn mattresses, which are very comfy initially. After a few years the integral topper goes flat and then starts to dip badly. Fine for a hotel that replaces the matress every 12-18m but not if you want longevity at home.
The website is great, packed full of really good info.
Just ordered it so let's see what it's like when it turns up.
It's a relatively inexpensive silent night 800 spring memory foam hybrid jobby. Lasted for 4 years only.
Been skimming the Internet with interest and its a total Wild West out there.
Following the advice on this thread I phoned John Ryan. Totally nerdy guys who really know their onions, but also know how to explain everything to n00bs.
He asked me what we had presently and how we found it. What type of base the matress was going on. My height and weight. My wife's height and weight. What position we slept in usually.
He then went on to discuss all the options and positives and negatives of all the different kind of mattresses. He really wasn't pushy at all and even suggested other brands and manufacturers depending on what we felt was important.
The one he suggested for us was an Origins Pocket 1500, but if we found that it wasn't quite right after a few weeks to try a latex topper. If still not right then they offer 60day full refund or exchange.
Because its double sided it can be turned and therefore lasts a lot longer because it doesn't sink in the same place the whole time. All the memory foam, single sided and "topper" mattresses dip twice as fast because you can only use them on one side so they only ever get all the pressure in the same place.
He said they found this with the premier inn mattresses, which are very comfy initially. After a few years the integral topper goes flat and then starts to dip badly. Fine for a hotel that replaces the matress every 12-18m but not if you want longevity at home.
The website is great, packed full of really good info.
Just ordered it so let's see what it's like when it turns up.
Turn7 said:
Been using our Origins 1500 for a week now and happy enough .....
Give it a few years…We have one and it was great for a few years and then went downhill with a big dip in spite of turning it regularly.
There’s a reason why they offer a 3 years warranty on the Origins 1500
My 2ps worth
-Avoid mattress in a box companies, from what I researched, read, heard on net always have issues down the road.
-John Ryan, Premier Inn, Sealy mattresses
I have read still many prefer over John ryan mattresses but even you do hear some returning it, getting a fault on it down a year or 2 or saying was not worth the high price tag but they are generally voted top of the top.
Family member recently got an sleepeeze pocket sprung (2000), looked the business but cost £350 from £500, lasted 2 nights and dipped in the middle and never went back up, so it got returned naturally.
I would advise to buy from companies that allow you to return the mattress like here:
https://www.mynextmattress.co.uk/sleep-trial
Many other out there, sure you have to sometimes pay a return fee (50-65 quid) but at least you have the option rather then none.
I personally have a Sealy mattress :
https://www.mattressman.co.uk/mattresses/sealy/781...
I risked it several years ago from here back then it was rrp £499 also but paid about £330, its medium firm id say, not changed since 1st day I used it so comfy for my bad back and great for back and side sleeping which I do, I think I got lucky though but if I do buy another one its going to be the same one if not similar and def sealy brand wise.
-Avoid mattress in a box companies, from what I researched, read, heard on net always have issues down the road.
-John Ryan, Premier Inn, Sealy mattresses
I have read still many prefer over John ryan mattresses but even you do hear some returning it, getting a fault on it down a year or 2 or saying was not worth the high price tag but they are generally voted top of the top.
Family member recently got an sleepeeze pocket sprung (2000), looked the business but cost £350 from £500, lasted 2 nights and dipped in the middle and never went back up, so it got returned naturally.
I would advise to buy from companies that allow you to return the mattress like here:
https://www.mynextmattress.co.uk/sleep-trial
Many other out there, sure you have to sometimes pay a return fee (50-65 quid) but at least you have the option rather then none.
I personally have a Sealy mattress :
https://www.mattressman.co.uk/mattresses/sealy/781...
I risked it several years ago from here back then it was rrp £499 also but paid about £330, its medium firm id say, not changed since 1st day I used it so comfy for my bad back and great for back and side sleeping which I do, I think I got lucky though but if I do buy another one its going to be the same one if not similar and def sealy brand wise.
We have one of these and it is fantastic - https://www.dreams.co.uk/tempur-cooltouch----cloud...
AAD44H said:
We have one of these and it is fantastic - https://www.dreams.co.uk/tempur-cooltouch----cloud...
i had one of those for 6 years it was great. then it sagged and they replaced with a new one that was like sleeping on soft jelly. so they replaced that and gave me a normal tempur that gives me excruciating back pain 
hence i need a new one tried button and spring as they have 100 night trial but wasnt 100% convinced. man maths myself up to 3.5k one and then on way home tried a vispring at the same price and now want to look at those seriously as it seemed great. i see v spring have a cheaper version j brand not sur if any good.
thing that puts me off is i really need a trial as if after one night i still have back pain thats a lot of cash down the drain
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