The what does a kitchen cost thread!?

[jason61c]

Sorry, I know its a hateful topic.

I'm looking at a kitchen, as the layout below






A diy kitchens cost is about 10k less worktops/appliances.

My Mrs likes the Devol shaker ones, I also like them.

I want to see some nice joins/feel of quality, dove tail joints......

A local place that made a door for me is going to quote, 18mm MFC carcass, screwed and glued construction(no cam locks), Blum runners, dovetail joints on all the draws, bits you see.

How much am I getting into? Whats the normal ballpark for a kitchen this size/number of units? Whats the best way to do worktops?

[Blakeatron]

A handmade kitchen will be considerably more - we would be starting at £20k for something like that - fully bespoke, solid oak painted fascias, oak dovetailed boxes etc, all pre finished off site.

Worktops - all cabinet tops in stone or silestone, i prefer 30mm.
Island worktop 45mm solid oak planked top with breadboard ends.

If you are spending you may as well go for it!

[singlecoil]

What about fitting, would you want that included? or do you have you local people who could do that or would you do it yourself?

How about worktops, presumably you would want granite or quartz, would you want that cost included?

Is having a framed kitchen important to you? I notice a lot of extraneous stuff in the pictures, pillars, legs etc, is that part of the appeal?

[jason61c]

The actual style we/she wants is a lot simpler looking.

https://www.devolkitchens.co.uk/kitchens/shaker-ki...

Just the doors are shaker style, draw fronts are flat. I do want the inframe look. Suits the house and I like the style myself.

I could fit myself(I'm overly handy and have built a few cabinets from scratch in the distant past). However I could get someone to do it.

worktops are going to be stone/composite that sort of thing. Just the island in generic oak stave.

[Mr Pointy]

Slightly off topic, but why do you want two cookers - a normal one & a range? I've seen a couple of examples of this & it seems the range is there for show ("ooh it's got a Aga") but the normal cooker is the one that's going to get used the 364 days of the year that aren't Christmas.

I'd also caution against putting the range in an alcove like that unless you've got well over 6' of clearance as otherwise someone's going to be constantly banging their head on it.

[jason61c]

Mr Pointy said:

Slightly off topic, but why do you want two cookers - a normal one & a range? I've seen a couple of examples of this & it seems the range is there for show ("ooh it's got a Aga") but the normal cooker is the one that's going to get used the 364 days of the year that aren't Christmas.

I'd also caution against putting the range in an alcove like that unless you've got well over 6' of clearance as otherwise someone's going to be constantly banging their head on it.

Its just a render, the 'alcove' is a 400 year old inglenook, it is what it is. its just over 5ft, its 'occasional' use.

It means we can run an aga/esse/everhot/nothing or similar, just in the winter months, normal oven for the rest of the year.

[CustardOnChips]

I'm not seeing the point of 2 ovens either.

That kitchen could easily cost £25k. It could easily cost a lot more too.

[Hashtaggggg]

The Aga is going to cost you £8-10k

£35k kitchen easily

[jason61c]

I've not including appliances in cost, I've got an esse already.

[singlecoil]

Do you have a dimensioned floor plan of the kitchen? If you do I could give you a pretty good idea of what a bespoke kitchen in that general style, but perhaps a little more practical, would cost (from me).

[jason61c]

Here, thanks!

Edited by jason61c on Saturday 26th October 14:21

[V8RX7]

jason61c said:

A diy kitchens cost is about 10k less worktops/appliances.

I want to see some nice joins/feel of quality, dove tail joints......

I am very pleased with my DIY Kitchen and it's far better than the usual suspects Magnet / Howdens etc

But I there aren't any dovetails etc

I believe Harry recommended a more expensive supplier that uses oak rather than chipboard

[FWIW]

Just in case you’re thinking of going to the Green Bird of When...don’t! I’m sure you’re not as you’re clearly looking for quality...just saying.

[singlecoil]

I reckon I would be around £12K, possibly as high as £14K depending on exact details, (for instance, the internals of the tall larder units). That would be for framed units, solid ash doors and fronts hand painted in the colour of your choice, oak dove-tailed drawers on Blum undermount soft close runners, cabinets in varnished birch plywood and all units made to order in the exact sizes required.

I would guess the worktops at about £2.5K fitted for the granite etc and a custom made wooden top for the island somewhere between £400 and £1,200 depending.

[jason61c]

How busy are you mr singlecoil? Can you drop me some example of previous?

[jason61c]

V8RX7 said:

I am very pleased with my DIY Kitchen and it's far better than the usual suspects Magnet / Howdens etc

But I there aren't any dovetails etc

I believe Harry recommended a more expensive supplier that uses oak rather than chipboard

Who's harry? I think DIY kitchens are good, its just the little bits I want that i'm not sure they could do.

[Wozy68]

V8RX7 said:

jason61c said:

A diy kitchens cost is about 10k less worktops/appliances.

I want to see some nice joins/feel of quality, dove tail joints......

I am very pleased with my DIY Kitchen and it's far better than the usual suspects Magnet / Howdens etc

But I there aren't any dovetails etc

I believe Harry recommended a more expensive supplier that uses oak rather than chipboard

Just to be clear .......

Using solid wood for cabinet carcasses is not a sign of quality .... in fact in a bizarre way it’s the opposite of a quality made product.

Don’t be fooled by the sales blurb...... and just be careful what bespoke means if you go down that road .... it’s a word that has been well over used (and taken over by the marketing men). It has little meaning these days where most companies are concerned and even most of the big bespoke companies aren't really bespoke anymore though charge as if it is.

Though we still do exist out there, you’ve just got to search for them.

Edited by Wozy68 on Saturday 26th October 16:52

[RichB]

Wozy68 said:

Just to be clear ....... Using solid wood for cabinet carcasses is not a sign of quality .... in fact in a bizarre way it’s the opposite of a quality made product.

Why is this?

[number2]

It seems to be a minefield. We're looking at a new kitchen soon.

We have hardback brochures from Humphrey Munson, Smallbone etc. (someone's paying for this...) and are frequently contacted by the likes of Tom Howley since asking for a brochures (bit more double glazing in their approach).

At a guess I'd say the former are v good but one's really paying for that comfort, and the latter might be okay on a good day, but are way more expensive than they should be and trading on past laurels.

Not sure where we'll end up but will be reviewing the situation properly soon

[number2]

RichB said:

Wozy68 said:

Just to be clear ....... Using solid wood for cabinet carcasses is not a sign of quality .... in fact in a bizarre way it’s the opposite of a quality made product.

Why is this?

Yes, it would be good to know! Stability in the environment? Thanks!