Bungalow Renovation - FloorPlan Critique Required
Discussion
garyhun said:
Do you mean giving the WC a jack and Jill set of doors - one to the utility and one to the garage?
No sorry I meant reducing the size of the wc room itself and adding another door to the garage adjacent to it. The single door could be in the garage wall which would mean you'd have a sort of open lobby (e.g. not closed off) area which would be open to the utility where you could put some hooks for coats etc (depending on dims of course).
But now looks like wine storage is more important and I'm all up for that!
Could you put a small lobby area behind the door from the kitchen into the utility, with one door off for the garage, one for the cloakroom and one for the utility room?
Could also look at putting the door from the utility into the garden in a more central position on order that you can have a line of units/ storage down each side of the room.
Unfortunately I am away from a printer and scanner so I can't do any images.
Could also look at putting the door from the utility into the garden in a more central position on order that you can have a line of units/ storage down each side of the room.
Unfortunately I am away from a printer and scanner so I can't do any images.
ben5575 said:
garyhun said:
Do you mean giving the WC a jack and Jill set of doors - one to the utility and one to the garage?
No sorry I meant reducing the size of the wc room itself and adding another door to the garage adjacent to it. The single door could be in the garage wall which would mean you'd have a sort of open lobby (e.g. not closed off) area which would be open to the utility where you could put some hooks for coats etc (depending on dims of course).
But now looks like wine storage is more important and I'm all up for that!
Another thing I've noted is the area behind the basins and WCs in the en-suite and bathroom. Is this a shelf or for services?
If it's the latter, as you've got a stud wall it might make sense to combine the services within the wall void, thus creating extra space. Is it also possible to move the bathroom wall a little to the left to make the bathroom a little larger?
If it's the latter, as you've got a stud wall it might make sense to combine the services within the wall void, thus creating extra space. Is it also possible to move the bathroom wall a little to the left to make the bathroom a little larger?
soxboy said:
Could you put a small lobby area behind the door from the kitchen into the utility, with one door off for the garage, one for the cloakroom and one for the utility room?
Could also look at putting the door from the utility into the garden in a more central position on order that you can have a line of units/ storage down each side of the room.
Unfortunately I am away from a printer and scanner so I can't do any images.
All possible.Could also look at putting the door from the utility into the garden in a more central position on order that you can have a line of units/ storage down each side of the room.
Unfortunately I am away from a printer and scanner so I can't do any images.
Been playing around with the plans today and have managed to get a decent (3000x2500) bathroom and ensuite by switching Bed 3 to the master which allows me to bring out the wall in the hallway to free up the extra space. We're going to put a glass panel in the ceiling of Bed 3 above the bed where the flat roof starts to give that room the wow it needs as a master, even if it's not the biggest.
We're definitely going for the WC in the utility and I've asked the architect to look into the door from utility to garage.
Thanks all for the really useful ideas - it's very much appreciated.
Think this is the winner now!
We're definitely going for the WC in the utility and I've asked the architect to look into the door from utility to garage.
Thanks all for the really useful ideas - it's very much appreciated.
Think this is the winner now!
Getting close to the final plan now.... I hope! We decided to forget making the side bedroom into the master as it suffers from a lack of any view and could be a little too compromised as a master.
Architect has come up with the below which I'm not keen on due to the loss of the corner of the kitchen and island size to extend the hall to allow access to the study/music room and have a decent size main bathroom.
I've worked on 2 options to this as below and would be keen to get opinions .... again.
OPTION1 (ignore the size of the island - it will be much longer)
OPTION2
Option 1 keeps the door to the kitchen where it is in the original but the L-shaped wall on the left is flipped to allow the run of kitchen units to be longer and keep a larger island.
Option 2 takes the door back to the rear kitchen wall (bottom wall in kitchen in the picture) and leaves the kitchen as a large square space. This means that we move the door to the third bed/study into the living room.
As the study will only be used as a third bedroom on very rare occasions (less than 6 times a year) the compromise of having the door in the living room works for us but I'd be keen to know if I'm missing anything here and whether it's not a good idea. I'd aim to have a run of bookcases on that wall in the living room and thought I'd have a hidden door in the bookcase.
Then other advantage of Option 2 is that we can steal about 600mm of the Study if we want and enlarge the bathroom by that amount.
Keeping the wall between study and bathroom as it currently stands in the pictures gives room dimensions of study 3200 x 3800 and bathroom 2900 x 2100.
Moving it would mean study 3200 x 3200 and the bathroom 2900 x 2700
Your thoughts, as always, greatly appreciated.
Architect has come up with the below which I'm not keen on due to the loss of the corner of the kitchen and island size to extend the hall to allow access to the study/music room and have a decent size main bathroom.
I've worked on 2 options to this as below and would be keen to get opinions .... again.
OPTION1 (ignore the size of the island - it will be much longer)
OPTION2
Option 1 keeps the door to the kitchen where it is in the original but the L-shaped wall on the left is flipped to allow the run of kitchen units to be longer and keep a larger island.
Option 2 takes the door back to the rear kitchen wall (bottom wall in kitchen in the picture) and leaves the kitchen as a large square space. This means that we move the door to the third bed/study into the living room.
As the study will only be used as a third bedroom on very rare occasions (less than 6 times a year) the compromise of having the door in the living room works for us but I'd be keen to know if I'm missing anything here and whether it's not a good idea. I'd aim to have a run of bookcases on that wall in the living room and thought I'd have a hidden door in the bookcase.
Then other advantage of Option 2 is that we can steal about 600mm of the Study if we want and enlarge the bathroom by that amount.
Keeping the wall between study and bathroom as it currently stands in the pictures gives room dimensions of study 3200 x 3800 and bathroom 2900 x 2100.
Moving it would mean study 3200 x 3200 and the bathroom 2900 x 2700
Your thoughts, as always, greatly appreciated.
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 8th December 15:52
I'm not convinced by Option 2 it must be said.
3.2 x 3.8 for a 3rd bedroom/study is a big room.
Can you not put the door into bed 3 where your corner shower is in the main bathroom and reconfigure the main bathroom to accommodate the shower elsewhere and/or steal some space from bed 3 as I think you suggest?
The decisions seem to be:
A) Irregular shaped kitchen as drawn by architect
B) Option 2 which means you have to walk through a kitchen and a living room to reach your 3rd bedroom
Ci) Access Bed 3 by relocating standalone main corner shower and stealing space from Bed 3 to accommodate it
Cii) Access Bed 3 by relocating standalone main corner shower and putting the shower over the bath.
Or perhaps to narrow it down further, irregular shaped kitchen or a shower over the bath in a main bathroom that you'll never use because you'll shower in the enormous shower in the ensuite all the time...
3.2 x 3.8 for a 3rd bedroom/study is a big room.
Can you not put the door into bed 3 where your corner shower is in the main bathroom and reconfigure the main bathroom to accommodate the shower elsewhere and/or steal some space from bed 3 as I think you suggest?
The decisions seem to be:
A) Irregular shaped kitchen as drawn by architect
B) Option 2 which means you have to walk through a kitchen and a living room to reach your 3rd bedroom
Ci) Access Bed 3 by relocating standalone main corner shower and stealing space from Bed 3 to accommodate it
Cii) Access Bed 3 by relocating standalone main corner shower and putting the shower over the bath.
Or perhaps to narrow it down further, irregular shaped kitchen or a shower over the bath in a main bathroom that you'll never use because you'll shower in the enormous shower in the ensuite all the time...
I’m doing my own self-analysis here .
The more I think about it, the more I’m inclined to go with just one big f
k-off luxury bathroom with free standing bath and walk in shower and forget trying to get an en-suite in as well.
Second pooper in the utility should suffice when guests are here.
. The more I think about it, the more I’m inclined to go with just one big f
k-off luxury bathroom with free standing bath and walk in shower and forget trying to get an en-suite in as well.Second pooper in the utility should suffice when guests are here.
garyhun said:
I’m doing my own self-analysis here .
The more I think about it, the more I’m inclined to go with just one big fk-off luxury bathroom with free standing bath and walk in shower and forget trying to get an en-suite in as well.
Second pooper in the utility should suffice when guests are here.
Yep, that would work well. An en suite is about the convenience of having a bathroom next to your bedroom (which you'll have anyway) and privacy (which isn't an issue because it's just the two of you).. The more I think about it, the more I’m inclined to go with just one big f
k-off luxury bathroom with free standing bath and walk in shower and forget trying to get an en-suite in as well.Second pooper in the utility should suffice when guests are here.
So where you putting the walk in wardrobe then....?
ben5575 said:
garyhun said:
I’m doing my own self-analysis here .
The more I think about it, the more I’m inclined to go with just one big fk-off luxury bathroom with free standing bath and walk in shower and forget trying to get an en-suite in as well.
Second pooper in the utility should suffice when guests are here.
Yep, that would work well. An en suite is about the convenience of having a bathroom next to your bedroom (which you'll have anyway) and privacy (which isn't an issue because it's just the two of you).. The more I think about it, the more I’m inclined to go with just one big f
k-off luxury bathroom with free standing bath and walk in shower and forget trying to get an en-suite in as well.Second pooper in the utility should suffice when guests are here.
So where you putting the walk in wardrobe then....?
Option 2, with the door in the sitting room isn't ideal. When we bought our bungalow, we liked the fact that, unlike so many bungalows the bedrooms were all off a central corridor at the back of the house, close to the bathroom. If you do have guests staying in the spare room, they have a long walk in an unfamiliar house to go to the bathroom in the night.
All comes down to a) How often you think the above will be an issue for you, and b) If you plan to stay there for a long time (because I think it'll be more of a potential issue for purchasers than for you, by the sound of it).
All comes down to a) How often you think the above will be an issue for you, and b) If you plan to stay there for a long time (because I think it'll be more of a potential issue for purchasers than for you, by the sound of it).
Mark Benson said:
Option 2, with the door in the sitting room isn't ideal. When we bought our bungalow, we liked the fact that, unlike so many bungalows the bedrooms were all off a central corridor at the back of the house, close to the bathroom. If you do have guests staying in the spare room, they have a long walk in an unfamiliar house to go to the bathroom in the night.
All comes down to a) How often you think the above will be an issue for you, and b) If you plan to stay there for a long time (because I think it'll be more of a potential issue for purchasers than for you, by the sound of it).
Good points. We've now decided against that idea and will probably go for one large bathroom and the extra wc in the utility. It's just a case of working out if 3500 x 2000 is a good enough size for the bathroom (top pic below) or whether to steal a further bit of hallway so that half of the bathroom wall comes out a further 600mm like second pic below. I've not done any re-jigging of the bath etc on this yet so not sure if it actually gives anything extra.All comes down to a) How often you think the above will be an issue for you, and b) If you plan to stay there for a long time (because I think it'll be more of a potential issue for purchasers than for you, by the sound of it).
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