5.5m x 5.4m garage. Too small?
Discussion
We're almost at the end of the garage build. The door manufacturer arrives on site tomorrow and we should receive the doors next week.
So, my attention moves to internal finishing.
In this photo, the fireproof panels are shown. I'm thinking of fitting the thinnest of Kingspan panels, or even just plasterboard to the other walls and ceiling. Is there something else that would do the job that I've not thought of? Or, am I just overthinking a simple solution?
As for the floor, I'd like to fit plastic tiles. I've been in contact with a firm since this garage was first planned. They supply something called 'Ecotile'.
Does anyone have experience of this, or similar? Is there anything else I could consider?
I dont want to paint or seal the floor. Just because!
Thanks.
So, my attention moves to internal finishing.
In this photo, the fireproof panels are shown. I'm thinking of fitting the thinnest of Kingspan panels, or even just plasterboard to the other walls and ceiling. Is there something else that would do the job that I've not thought of? Or, am I just overthinking a simple solution?
As for the floor, I'd like to fit plastic tiles. I've been in contact with a firm since this garage was first planned. They supply something called 'Ecotile'.
Does anyone have experience of this, or similar? Is there anything else I could consider?
I dont want to paint or seal the floor. Just because!
Thanks.
Are you planning on storing anything in the roof or just plaster boarding straight over. Id be tempted to plasterboard and have a loft hatch, ladder and some storage(I did in my last house) but I guess it depends if you have any storage needs? If not, waste of time, just insulate it well.
Blib said:
I dont plan to store anything in the roof space.
You suggest that I 'insulate well'. So, should i go with a higher spec. Kingspan?
Im not the right person to answer that but if it were me Id be doing so just to keep the warmth in as best as possible and be happy to go a bit ott.You suggest that I 'insulate well'. So, should i go with a higher spec. Kingspan?
Oriented Strand Board - This stuff: https://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-General-Purpose-OS...
Can probably get it cheaper than Wickes from a local timber merchant though.
Can probably get it cheaper than Wickes from a local timber merchant though.
Insulation mainly depends if you want to heat it or not, but also slightly on sound proofing, kingspan type foil coated foam boards give good thermal insulation but very little sound proofing, where rockwool or glasswool will do something to keep sound in and out and is cheaper as well as breathable. Unless you are planning to keep it warm, your mainly trying to stop it absolutely pishing out, so a big heater will keep pace for a few hours, rather than archive an eco spec.
Air tightness also comes into it a bit too, as there is no point having the walls/ceiling well insulated if the wind is blowing through. But then again depending on use, you also want to have some ventilation to avoid any damp building up.
OSB which is what they have used between the frame and the feather edge cladding is cheap and good for handing tools, but looks a bit rough and isn't the best tor paint. Plasterboard is also good and cheap, reasonably fire retardant, and a good acoustic barrier, but also can't stand getting wet.
If you do board the ceiling and or attic I would leave a hatch even if you don't plan to use if for storage as at least to then have access to inspect the roof or fish a cable through or whatever. As they are standard trusses rather than attic trusses you don't have a huge amount of storage, but if it is useful to you then I would certainly get some 18mm chipboard flooring down the middle.
I think it if it were me, I would either:
a) Do nothing other than paint the OSB you can see with white paint, likely try and spray it, probably just emulsion.
c) Do nothing other than mash up some plasterboard on the 'ceiling' to keep the light and warm air down better.
b) Rock/glasswool bats between the frame and on top of the ceiling, sheet of OSB, sheet of plasterboard, white emulsion.
Depending on if its just a place to keep cars, lawnmower and junk, or somewhere you are going spend a reasonable amount of time.
Daniel
Air tightness also comes into it a bit too, as there is no point having the walls/ceiling well insulated if the wind is blowing through. But then again depending on use, you also want to have some ventilation to avoid any damp building up.
OSB which is what they have used between the frame and the feather edge cladding is cheap and good for handing tools, but looks a bit rough and isn't the best tor paint. Plasterboard is also good and cheap, reasonably fire retardant, and a good acoustic barrier, but also can't stand getting wet.
If you do board the ceiling and or attic I would leave a hatch even if you don't plan to use if for storage as at least to then have access to inspect the roof or fish a cable through or whatever. As they are standard trusses rather than attic trusses you don't have a huge amount of storage, but if it is useful to you then I would certainly get some 18mm chipboard flooring down the middle.
I think it if it were me, I would either:
a) Do nothing other than paint the OSB you can see with white paint, likely try and spray it, probably just emulsion.
c) Do nothing other than mash up some plasterboard on the 'ceiling' to keep the light and warm air down better.
b) Rock/glasswool bats between the frame and on top of the ceiling, sheet of OSB, sheet of plasterboard, white emulsion.
Depending on if its just a place to keep cars, lawnmower and junk, or somewhere you are going spend a reasonable amount of time.
Daniel
Blib said:
Thank you for that comprehensive post. I really appreciate it.
As it's just for storing cars I think I'll spray the walls to start with and take it from there.
No worries, not had a timber frame garage, but have watched my parents build theirs (brick+concrete block walls, trusses roof) and others improve various garages with interest including my own. As it's just for storing cars I think I'll spray the walls to start with and take it from there.
Concrete block is darker than your OSB but painting it white made a huge difference to feel of the place. It was also hugely noticeable that a decent brand emulsion was twice as white after the first, and second coat as a cheap one. Wouldn't go £40 Dulux Supermatt but would go for £20 Dulux and McPhersons over a £6 own brand or £10 based spec Crown.
Even if you're just storing cars I suspect you are putting lights in, if you don't have a ceiling I would look at something that mainly keeps the light down, which now they exist would likely be LED panels of batterns. We have a LAP led battern in the attic and unlike some of the lap branded stuff (like their pir) is appears reasonable. I have some ex-industry florescent panels but only because I'm a bit tight and we might rebuild/re-roof the garage in time.
Daniel
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