2020 Lawn thread
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ChocolateFrog said:
ooid said:
Here is the state of my horrible corner. I still can not believe, this literally emerged/happened in total 6 days. I have removed the yellow, patchy bits carefully and re-seeded now again. I've asked a few friends, they say either lawn disease or someone attacked with week-killer or etc.. It is pretty disappointing.
If that's anything other than something being poured or flushed from the other side of the fence then I'd eat my hat.Could be accidental, have the neighbours been cleaning their patio recently?
This.
I would wager that is Jeyes Fluid which your neighbour has used to clean his shed roof. Nothing will grow there and the only cure will be to replace the soil.
ooid said:
okay gents, the turf experts emailed me saying it is indeed, bad news "RED THREAD" 
I've been recommonded to use some fungicide, and than I will dig the whole area and put a new roll turf..
Who told you that?I've been recommonded to use some fungicide, and than I will dig the whole area and put a new roll turf..
Now that I’ve seen more pictures, I’m even more convinced it’s not red thread. Red thread isn’t as devastating as that!
One of your pictures clearly shows a grass seedling with a pink colour to its top growth. That’s not red thread.
jagnet said:
ooid said:
okay gents, the turf experts emailed me saying it is indeed, bad news "RED THREAD"
No chance. That's definitely not red thread. The red/purple is typical of ryegrass basal leaf stems but yours are freakishly elongated. The pattern of affected grass and the mutant seedling development both scream contamination from something leaking onto your lawn from the corner, although I have no idea what it might be.
We're gearing up for having a new lawn laid at the moment.
It did look like this:
Very uneven (where the dog had dug in the past), full of weeds but the robomower was keeping it looking very green. I had noticed a lot of brown spots appearing in a few places (urine related I think).
However it currently looks like:
The plan is to have all new turf laid as part of a bigger garden project.
What do I need to make sure the landscapers do? Obviously remove any rubble and ensure that there is a good amount of topsoil there (we're in quite a sandy area).
What should I do once it's laid? Water every day? Worth feeding it?
It did look like this:
Very uneven (where the dog had dug in the past), full of weeds but the robomower was keeping it looking very green. I had noticed a lot of brown spots appearing in a few places (urine related I think).
However it currently looks like:
The plan is to have all new turf laid as part of a bigger garden project.
What do I need to make sure the landscapers do? Obviously remove any rubble and ensure that there is a good amount of topsoil there (we're in quite a sandy area).
What should I do once it's laid? Water every day? Worth feeding it?
Do not, under any circumstances, let the idiots do what they did to mine, which is dump a load of sand (inches deep) over the rotovated clay for drainage. It means the grass needs constant care to look good - lots of watering, lots of fertilising, else it is stunted and weak.
Literally idiotic and back then I did not know to stop them. My grass is laid over pure sand. To remedy, I would have to start again.
I suspect that soil prep will be specific to what you have in your garden, but at least don't do the above.
Literally idiotic and back then I did not know to stop them. My grass is laid over pure sand. To remedy, I would have to start again.
I suspect that soil prep will be specific to what you have in your garden, but at least don't do the above.
ooid said:
My local turf specialists (rolawn) gave me the recommendation and diagnosis. I've sent them the same pictures.
I have another area now started to appear quite yellow-ish and similar look in the last 2 days? :/
Again that looks suspiciously like contamination running through from your neighbour. I have another area now started to appear quite yellow-ish and similar look in the last 2 days? :/
What's on the other side of the fence? Some sort of patio cleaner maybe which has then been hosed off and spread under the fence?
snowandrocks said:
Again that looks suspiciously like contamination running through from your neighbour.
What's on the other side of the fence? Some sort of patio cleaner maybe which has then been hosed off and spread under the fence?
A freshly laid green turf on the otherside. Again, I'm constantly checking 2-3 times a day my garden, so any contamination would have been noted by us easily. I gave it a mow tomorrow, it has been quite wet during the weekend. than will fertilize, and water twice. for the fukedup area, I'll just cut-out, aearate, put new top soil and lay a new rolled turf before september, that would be the ideal i guess.What's on the other side of the fence? Some sort of patio cleaner maybe which has then been hosed off and spread under the fence?
ooid said:
A freshly laid green turf on the otherside. Again, I'm constantly checking 2-3 times a day my garden, so any contamination would have been noted by us easily. I gave it a mow tomorrow, it has been quite wet during the weekend. than will fertilize, and water twice. for the fukedup area, I'll just cut-out, aearate, put new top soil and lay a new rolled turf before september, that would be the ideal i guess.
If it's new turf nextdoor, is it possible that they have fertilized and it's running off into your garden causing fert burn as it's added to yours?Ordered a 2 tons of fine topsoil and in the process of making a lawn level tool out of bits I have lying around.
Just want to fill in some undulations from when I laid the lawn last year, it has sunk in places where I added 18 inches of topsoil compared to other areas where I added barely any. It's also a couple of inches below the path which is annoying when mowing.
Just want to fill in some undulations from when I laid the lawn last year, it has sunk in places where I added 18 inches of topsoil compared to other areas where I added barely any. It's also a couple of inches below the path which is annoying when mowing.
Anyone used a trommel or 'Rotary Sieve' to screen top-dressing?
Either a diy/cement mixer based system, or one of the Scheppach machines? Hired/made/whatever.
I have got about 5ton of nice loamy free-draining top soil which would be idea for dressing, but is currently 'as it came' from digging over an area of abandoned garden, so plenty of roots and rocks in it.
Daniel
Either a diy/cement mixer based system, or one of the Scheppach machines? Hired/made/whatever.
I have got about 5ton of nice loamy free-draining top soil which would be idea for dressing, but is currently 'as it came' from digging over an area of abandoned garden, so plenty of roots and rocks in it.
Daniel
ooid said:
Here is the state of my horrible corner. I still can not believe, this literally emerged/happened in total 6 days. I have removed the yellow, patchy bits carefully and re-seeded now again. I've asked a few friends, they say either lawn disease or someone attacked with week-killer or etc.. It is pretty disappointing.
A bit improvement, so to speak...
Scarified the dead turf and re-seeded with Fertilizer. Also used Provanto Lawn Disease Control.
Hi all, long time lurker on this thread. Lawn was seeded about a year ago, with a few inches of topsoil over very heavy clay. It was somewhat left to its own devices for the first year, and left far too long over the winter (probably 5 inches or so) before cutting in the spring.
Since then, it's pretty much looked like this every time I cut it. The grass that grows, grows strongly but there's a lot of dead grass in amongst, and it's very patchy. We're on the south coast so it's been very warm for a couple of months now, but I've been giving it a deep water each week if there's been no rain.
My thought is that it needs a really good rake / scarify and over seeding once it cools down a bit to pull out the dead grass. Does this seem about right?
Since then, it's pretty much looked like this every time I cut it. The grass that grows, grows strongly but there's a lot of dead grass in amongst, and it's very patchy. We're on the south coast so it's been very warm for a couple of months now, but I've been giving it a deep water each week if there's been no rain.
My thought is that it needs a really good rake / scarify and over seeding once it cools down a bit to pull out the dead grass. Does this seem about right?
dhutch said:
Anyone used a trommel or 'Rotary Sieve' to screen top-dressing?
Either a diy/cement mixer based system, or one of the Scheppach machines? Hired/made/whatever.
I have got about 5ton of nice loamy free-draining top soil which would be idea for dressing, but is currently 'as it came' from digging over an area of abandoned garden, so plenty of roots and rocks in it.
Daniel
Yes. Borrowed one from a neighbour. Does what it says on the tin.Either a diy/cement mixer based system, or one of the Scheppach machines? Hired/made/whatever.
I have got about 5ton of nice loamy free-draining top soil which would be idea for dressing, but is currently 'as it came' from digging over an area of abandoned garden, so plenty of roots and rocks in it.
Daniel
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