Build thread - bungalow to house
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End of week 1 and i'm quite impressed. Much more visible progress than i was expecting.
More scaffolding arrived, ready for the new, higher roof
And the tarps are covering the new gable walls, so already we can see the space we will be gaining from the original roof line
The driveway now looks like a branch of Jewsons, we've worn the kettle out making Tea and Coffee for the builders and figured out that chocolate digestives are the favourite biscuit!
More scaffolding arrived, ready for the new, higher roof
And the tarps are covering the new gable walls, so already we can see the space we will be gaining from the original roof line
The driveway now looks like a branch of Jewsons, we've worn the kettle out making Tea and Coffee for the builders and figured out that chocolate digestives are the favourite biscuit!
Edited by mattman on Friday 24th January 15:58
[quote=mattman]End of week 1 and i'm quite impressed. Much more visible progress than i was expecting.
More scaffolding arrived, ready for the new, higher roof
And the tarps are covering the new gable walls, so already we can see the space we will be gaining from the original roof line
The driveway now looks like a branch of Jewsons, we've worn the kettle out making Tea and Coffee for the builders and figured out that chocolate digestives are the favourite biscuit!
The builders are still very tidy, washing down the drive before they went, sweeping up, etc. The block drive has been protected by boards as well.
More scaffolding arrived, ready for the new, higher roof
And the tarps are covering the new gable walls, so already we can see the space we will be gaining from the original roof line
The driveway now looks like a branch of Jewsons, we've worn the kettle out making Tea and Coffee for the builders and figured out that chocolate digestives are the favourite biscuit!
The builders are still very tidy, washing down the drive before they went, sweeping up, etc. The block drive has been protected by boards as well.
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All fixed - light stayed on for about 20mins and then seemed to set itself - been working since
I take it the plan is to encapsulate the existing roof with the new external walls, put the new roof on, get it watertight then remove the existing one underneath?
I did the same type of build, and we lived in it throughout as well, I went a slightly different route by making the floor in the dormer a temp flat roof with internal perimeter guttering catching any rainwater then piping it out in one corner , then removed the existing roof, so it looked like an old prefab, then the scaffold went up for the brickies as if it were a half built house.
I then used room in roof trusses so no internal load bearing walls were required, got it watertight, completely did upstairs, broke through and we moved upstairs, whilst we renovated downstairs.
Everyone thought I was nuts when I first came up with the idea, but it was a challenge that I am proud of.
Look forward to following your endeavours.
My next is a new build, oh boy so much easier than a refurb! no going backward before you can go forwards, and you get the vat back, pity there are so few plots though out there.
I did the same type of build, and we lived in it throughout as well, I went a slightly different route by making the floor in the dormer a temp flat roof with internal perimeter guttering catching any rainwater then piping it out in one corner , then removed the existing roof, so it looked like an old prefab, then the scaffold went up for the brickies as if it were a half built house.
I then used room in roof trusses so no internal load bearing walls were required, got it watertight, completely did upstairs, broke through and we moved upstairs, whilst we renovated downstairs.
Everyone thought I was nuts when I first came up with the idea, but it was a challenge that I am proud of.
Look forward to following your endeavours.
My next is a new build, oh boy so much easier than a refurb! no going backward before you can go forwards, and you get the vat back, pity there are so few plots though out there.
Is this going on the original foundations. Did you have to have them inspected?
Or was it a case of plans passed, off you go, subject to the usual b.regs and stage visits from planning.
Do foundations form part of b.regs?
The foundations on our house are about 600mm below ground. 2 storey.
When I built a single storey extension, the building inspector insisted we went down 2100mm for the new build. At least, that was how far I had to go down before he was satisfied.
Just wondering how it works when working from something that's existing.
Or was it a case of plans passed, off you go, subject to the usual b.regs and stage visits from planning.
Do foundations form part of b.regs?
The foundations on our house are about 600mm below ground. 2 storey.
When I built a single storey extension, the building inspector insisted we went down 2100mm for the new build. At least, that was how far I had to go down before he was satisfied.
Just wondering how it works when working from something that's existing.
Hi Chris - the builder took care of the foundation checks prior to starting - came home one day to find holes dug. One side of the house is already a full 2 storey - we are pitching the roof over that part. The rest has had the roof converted in the past.
So not sure of the details, just got given the thumbs up
So not sure of the details, just got given the thumbs up
End of week 2 and the block work of the left hand gable is complete, the right hand side is half done.
Builders found no insulation behind the tiles on the dormer sides, and generally random bits all over the place
The roof is now covered to stop the rain as we are still living in it. next week they are due to build up the centre of the front, and remove the flat roof over the main bedroom, to get the blocks level, so we need to move downstairs this weekend.
Work has started inside as well, prepping for the steels that need to be installed before the roof goes on. That means a visit from the structural engineer to confirm fixing points (£800 we weren’t expecting).
The photo shows how the new gable wraps around the existing former. Ceiling height in this room is going to be around 2.5m which will be nice.
Also been very impressed with the brickie. As the house has had many alterations over the years, there were lots of different bricks to try and match for the new sides of the gable that won’t be rendered. I think they have chosen well and the final finish is excellent
Builders found no insulation behind the tiles on the dormer sides, and generally random bits all over the place
The roof is now covered to stop the rain as we are still living in it. next week they are due to build up the centre of the front, and remove the flat roof over the main bedroom, to get the blocks level, so we need to move downstairs this weekend.
Work has started inside as well, prepping for the steels that need to be installed before the roof goes on. That means a visit from the structural engineer to confirm fixing points (£800 we weren’t expecting).
The photo shows how the new gable wraps around the existing former. Ceiling height in this room is going to be around 2.5m which will be nice.
Also been very impressed with the brickie. As the house has had many alterations over the years, there were lots of different bricks to try and match for the new sides of the gable that won’t be rendered. I think they have chosen well and the final finish is excellent
End of week 3 and more progress - not quite as visible as the previous though.
Walls now built up to wall plate level and now tightly wrapped up to hopefully see off storm Ciara. The rear bedroom has had the strange flat roof removed and the blocks built back level ready for the vaulted ceiling. They have also knocked out the centre walls at the front and have built up ready for the new centralised double doors, blocking up the front door in the process. The trusses are meant to be turning up on site next week!
The builders also uncovered a little slice of history with a copy of the Sun from 1979
They have also started inside - actually quite scary what they uncovered in the ceiling of what was my daughters bedroom. Not great photos, but you can just about see that the roof joists weren't long enough to reach the walls. No worries, we'll just add another couple of random lengths of timber attached at various points so that eventually one reaches the wall!!
Oh, and when taking up some of the floor, they found that rather than replace the 4x2 joists with 8x2 when they did the loft conversion, they simply nailed and screwed another bit of 4x2 onto the original!
Walls now built up to wall plate level and now tightly wrapped up to hopefully see off storm Ciara. The rear bedroom has had the strange flat roof removed and the blocks built back level ready for the vaulted ceiling. They have also knocked out the centre walls at the front and have built up ready for the new centralised double doors, blocking up the front door in the process. The trusses are meant to be turning up on site next week!
The builders also uncovered a little slice of history with a copy of the Sun from 1979
They have also started inside - actually quite scary what they uncovered in the ceiling of what was my daughters bedroom. Not great photos, but you can just about see that the roof joists weren't long enough to reach the walls. No worries, we'll just add another couple of random lengths of timber attached at various points so that eventually one reaches the wall!!
Oh, and when taking up some of the floor, they found that rather than replace the 4x2 joists with 8x2 when they did the loft conversion, they simply nailed and screwed another bit of 4x2 onto the original!
A lot of noise going on today as storm ciara smacks into the house, tarpaulin’s are just about holding up, few leaks here and there but mostly watertight.
Few bowls strategically placed around the house, been up on the scaffolding but it too blooming windy for me.
Power got knocked out to the whole town this morning, but luckily back within 30mins
Anyone else enjoying renovating in a storm? 😂
Few bowls strategically placed around the house, been up on the scaffolding but it too blooming windy for me.
Power got knocked out to the whole town this morning, but luckily back within 30mins
Anyone else enjoying renovating in a storm? 😂
When we had our double garage taken up a storey the builders completed the new roof whilst leaving the garage roof intact, it was then taken down from inside - quite clever really. However when they cut a doorway though at first floor level it was ‘kin freezing. The rads were so hot you couldn’t touch them but it was still cold in the house. We did it in February too. Are you coping with the low temperatures?
at the moment, the temps aren't too bad, even with holes in the house. We still have a gas fire in the lounge if we need to boost it.
We are all living downstairs now as the builders rip apart the roof - and find all the bodges from the previous extensions. Today they found that the dormers had just been nailed to the existing roof joists, the roof joists not strengthened or upgraded.
Skips getting full of timber - i should really make a pile of it to use in the log burner at a later date
Roof trusses arrive today! another step forward
We are all living downstairs now as the builders rip apart the roof - and find all the bodges from the previous extensions. Today they found that the dormers had just been nailed to the existing roof joists, the roof joists not strengthened or upgraded.
Skips getting full of timber - i should really make a pile of it to use in the log burner at a later date
Roof trusses arrive today! another step forward
Our renovations are completely inside (bar the garden) and the roof in good nick, but it still be noticeably colder with the high winds so certainly thinking of those without a roof!
Absolute madness what holds some building together compared to modern regs, but then again its not had any issues in all its years, so in many ways the way it was done was ok. The roof on my 1938 council was remarkably rough in many ways, clearly went up at a pace, obviously all made on site with huge nails, no trusses or cordless drills back then, felt is fairly basic looking stuff, but it has done 80 years and a set of new tiles without batting an eyelid.
Daniel
Absolute madness what holds some building together compared to modern regs, but then again its not had any issues in all its years, so in many ways the way it was done was ok. The roof on my 1938 council was remarkably rough in many ways, clearly went up at a pace, obviously all made on site with huge nails, no trusses or cordless drills back then, felt is fairly basic looking stuff, but it has done 80 years and a set of new tiles without batting an eyelid.
Daniel
Another milestone reached today - new roof timbers are going up.
Survived the storm, so today the remains of the front of the existing roof and dormer came off
Then a lorry turned up and unloaded half a forest of timber onto the drive
and now, from my temporary office, i can see new roof timbers going up
Survived the storm, so today the remains of the front of the existing roof and dormer came off
Then a lorry turned up and unloaded half a forest of timber onto the drive
and now, from my temporary office, i can see new roof timbers going up
End of week 4 - we have part of the new roof on - and now battened down in preparation for storm Dennis.
Some really good progress (in my eyes) and the rooms are looking quite large!
Nice little detail that the architect insisted on, slight kick out at the bottom of the roof to increase the overhang and create deeper shadows, you just about make it out in this pic
The rear bedroom will have a vaulted ceiling, so its going to be quite large! The old ceiling is still in place at the moment as they are using that to walk on
We also have half of Jewson's on the front drive and now have a rubbish chute as they prepare to gut the interior of the existing roof
And then to add to the fun, we've had the water company in to try and fix the sewer pipe that keeps blocking up. Turns out that its still the original asbestos pitch pipes installed in the 1950's. The pipe is getting squeezed, causing a blockage. The pipe is over 2m down, and of course they couldn't get the Kubota down the side because of the scaffolding, so they had to try and go through the back. Of course, its never that easy - the only gap in the conifers big enough to get the digger in, had a concrete fence post in the middle, so they had to dig in from beyond our boundary.
The cause of the squeeze is one of the big conifers - so i have the job of cutting one of them down, before they return and replace the damaged pipe
Some really good progress (in my eyes) and the rooms are looking quite large!
Nice little detail that the architect insisted on, slight kick out at the bottom of the roof to increase the overhang and create deeper shadows, you just about make it out in this pic
The rear bedroom will have a vaulted ceiling, so its going to be quite large! The old ceiling is still in place at the moment as they are using that to walk on
We also have half of Jewson's on the front drive and now have a rubbish chute as they prepare to gut the interior of the existing roof
And then to add to the fun, we've had the water company in to try and fix the sewer pipe that keeps blocking up. Turns out that its still the original asbestos pitch pipes installed in the 1950's. The pipe is getting squeezed, causing a blockage. The pipe is over 2m down, and of course they couldn't get the Kubota down the side because of the scaffolding, so they had to try and go through the back. Of course, its never that easy - the only gap in the conifers big enough to get the digger in, had a concrete fence post in the middle, so they had to dig in from beyond our boundary.
The cause of the squeeze is one of the big conifers - so i have the job of cutting one of them down, before they return and replace the damaged pipe
End of week 6
Not too much has been happening externally over the last couple of weeks because of the constant rain.
The steels in the vaulted ceiling of the main bedroom have been installed, which has meant that the rear gable wall has been finished.
This has meant that they have started installing the insulation inside as well - the original flat roof has been kept for as long as possible to help with the build
The inside of the upstairs has been ripped out. Uncovering a few horrors that were hidden behind the plaster board. The dormers in particular were bad. Why use one timber when you can use up all your offcuts?
There are lots of butt joints, timbers doubled up rather than properly strengthened and even some marine ply used to secure the ridge beam
The chimney has also come down. We’re keeping the fireplace and installing a log burner but will replace the large brick chimney with a smaller insulated flue.
Downstairs, we’ve removed the utility room wall (that we put up shortly after moving in) so that the new central heating system could be installed. The new stairs will come up through the original airing cupboard and water tanks, so all that has been replaced with a new Worcester Bosch and Megaflow.
Next week the rest of the roof comes off to avoid dropping too far behind schedule. We’ve survived 3 storms now, with a few buckets to catch some drips, we are still living here, but have had enough rain.
It’s still better than a lot of people that are seen on the news that are suffering from floods
Not too much has been happening externally over the last couple of weeks because of the constant rain.
The steels in the vaulted ceiling of the main bedroom have been installed, which has meant that the rear gable wall has been finished.
This has meant that they have started installing the insulation inside as well - the original flat roof has been kept for as long as possible to help with the build
The inside of the upstairs has been ripped out. Uncovering a few horrors that were hidden behind the plaster board. The dormers in particular were bad. Why use one timber when you can use up all your offcuts?
There are lots of butt joints, timbers doubled up rather than properly strengthened and even some marine ply used to secure the ridge beam
The chimney has also come down. We’re keeping the fireplace and installing a log burner but will replace the large brick chimney with a smaller insulated flue.
Downstairs, we’ve removed the utility room wall (that we put up shortly after moving in) so that the new central heating system could be installed. The new stairs will come up through the original airing cupboard and water tanks, so all that has been replaced with a new Worcester Bosch and Megaflow.
Next week the rest of the roof comes off to avoid dropping too far behind schedule. We’ve survived 3 storms now, with a few buckets to catch some drips, we are still living here, but have had enough rain.
It’s still better than a lot of people that are seen on the news that are suffering from floods
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