Condensation vs Nuaire Drimaster

Condensation vs Nuaire Drimaster

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morfmedia

233 posts

228 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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markiii said:
are these silent in operation chaps?
They aren't silent but it's a non intrusive sound (hum). If you're ultra sensitive to noise, you can mount the fan unit with different methods, some hang them from ceiling joists / use rubber matting / use bicycle tyres to further isolate the noise.

Slower settings very quiet, highest settings are a bit noisy and probably best just for daytime or noise being mitigated using above methods (or better).

robemcdonald

8,804 posts

197 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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morfmedia said:
markiii said:
are these silent in operation chaps?
They aren't silent but it's a non intrusive sound (hum). If you're ultra sensitive to noise, you can mount the fan unit with different methods, some hang them from ceiling joists / use rubber matting / use bicycle tyres to further isolate the noise.

Slower settings very quiet, highest settings are a bit noisy and probably best just for daytime or noise being mitigated using above methods (or better).
If you replace the flexible duct with semi rigid acoustic flex the noise falls below NR16 at full speed. i.e. to low to be effectively measured.

chrisr111r

188 posts

130 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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markiii said:
are these silent in operation chaps?
Go on mark, get on and then you can let me know if it's worth it laugh
Although not sure where i'd pipe the outside air from is a ground floor flat...

robemcdonald

8,804 posts

197 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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chrisr111r said:
markiii said:
are these silent in operation chaps?
Go on mark, get on and then you can let me know if it's worth it laugh
Although not sure where i'd pipe the outside air from is a ground floor flat...
You’ll be wanting the flatmaster for that.

Bullet-Proof_Biscuit

1,058 posts

78 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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Good old Pete the damp mythbuster has got something to say about the loft venterizer at about 7 minutes in....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Q5zZuzgLU

TheInternet

4,718 posts

164 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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Bullet-Proof_Biscuit said:
Good old Pete the damp mythbuster has got something to say about the loft venterizer at about 7 minutes in....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Q5zZuzgLU
"Water is the lightest gas in the air"

Righto.

robemcdonald

8,804 posts

197 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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TheInternet said:
Bullet-Proof_Biscuit said:
Good old Pete the damp mythbuster has got something to say about the loft venterizer at about 7 minutes in....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Q5zZuzgLU
"Water is the lightest gas in the air"

Righto.
It must be a coincidence that it cured damp in several million dwellings.

Dg504

265 posts

164 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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TheInternet said:
"Water is the lightest gas in the air"

Righto.
Is he wrong?

Given that the two other main components are dioxygen and dinitrogen he is (atomically) correct.

TheInternet

4,718 posts

164 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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Dg504 said:
Is he wrong?
Less abundant, but I'm calling on Helium as a get out of jail. How do you feel about the suggestion that people's lofts are full of water due to its density?


Edited by TheInternet on Thursday 10th December 13:44

robemcdonald

8,804 posts

197 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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Dg504 said:
TheInternet said:
"Water is the lightest gas in the air"

Righto.
Is he wrong?

Given that the two other main components are dioxygen and dinitrogen he is (atomically) correct.
Yes he is.

Air contains trace elements of both helium and hydrogen.

Bullet-Proof_Biscuit

1,058 posts

78 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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I think he's a bit of a nutcase.

BUT. He is a period property remediation expert, things like reinstating void ventilation, removing cement render, lime rendering, ground drainage, breathable fabric etc etc, he's the only guy that calls out injection dpc people. I believe he consults for national heritage England or some such establishment. And a nutcase.

Sheepshanks

32,799 posts

120 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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Bullet-Proof_Biscuit said:
Good old Pete the damp mythbuster has got something to say about the loft venterizer at about 7 minutes in....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Q5zZuzgLU
There's several comments with that video from people saying it's worked well for them.

I suppose his comments could be valid if the loft was uninsulated and unventilated, but he should have qualified them. But he seems like the kind of person who sees everything as black or white.

morfmedia

233 posts

228 months

Thursday 10th December 2020
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robemcdonald said:
If you replace the flexible duct with semi rigid acoustic flex the noise falls below NR16 at full speed. i.e. to low to be effectively measured.
Useful to know cheers.

chrisr111r

188 posts

130 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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robemcdonald said:
You’ll be wanting the flatmaster for that.
Yeah i've been looking at that and thinking about how it would work here - it looks like the idea is largely the same; look to locate the discharge vent somewhere central for efficient distribution to all rooms and run ducting to an outside wall for the intake. I have a central hall area that all rooms lead off which would be suitable for the discharge but it isn't near an exterior wall. The bathroom vent runs along boxing at the top of the lounge so it maybe possible to tap into that or potentially go the other way and run ducting above the kitchen cupboards to get to that outside wall. All the pictures I see show the unit installed upright (standing on the thin depth) but is it possible to install the unit laying flat (on the larger width)?

shady lee

962 posts

183 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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Wulmund said:
I bought a Nuaire Drimaster Eco HC. I don’t know if anyone knows of a wall unit that lets you manually select the fan speed? I can see ones that control heat (this one doesn’t have a heater) or ones that vary the speed according to humidity. I’d like to be able to manually select one of the 5 settings but it doesn’t seem like either of those units let you do this? I have an older house and the ceilings are quite high so it’s hard to get up there to change the settings manually! Thanks for your help.
As far as I know there's only the normal/boost switches.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nuaire-Drimaster-Eco-2-...

You can have the boost switch if you have the heat or not, you just need to have the link model if yours doesn't have heat. (All heat models are sensor ready by default I think).


Why do you wish to keep changing the fan speed?





remedy

1,649 posts

192 months

Saturday 26th December 2020
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I bought and fitted one a few weeks back. It was wired up on Christmas eve and the next day the windows were free of condensation. I'm very happy.
The 23rd was very similar morning temperatures and I had to do my normal morning wipe down.

As most people have said, the hall way is a bit fresher than before with 30l/min air flowing in but we've got a south facing roof so will get some solar gain with nice weather.

My humidity monitor in the kitchen has dropped 10%. It's only a sample of 2 days so I'll monitor and report back if it was just a fluke.

remedy

1,649 posts

192 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Well, that's a week almost done and condensation has been cured, even in the coldest of nights/mornings.
I've reduced the speed down to 2 last night as the icy air was making the hallway a bit nippy and my 3 year old was complaining. No effect on the condensation in the morning though so I'm happy!

CampoTheMexicana

77 posts

76 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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One month in and all condensation has gone.

At first it was all good and then on colder days I noticed that one bedroom was still suffering minor condensation, this room had curtains and shutters so we then decided to leave the shutters open and shut the curtains. This did the trick and now we leave the shutters open and close the curtains at night. Previously before installing the Drimaster we had tried the same approach with open shutters and closed curtains to no avail.

Absolute winner and if anyone is wondering if its worth the punt (after all these arent cheap) then yes it is. We got really bad condensation across the front of our house (North facing) - I mean windows absolutely streaming you couldnt see out of without wiping down and now we have no condensation whatsoever.

beer

remedy

1,649 posts

192 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Same here. We've got shutters on the bedroom and lounge and I keep the top window on the latch and the shutters slightly open. This allows the air to flow around the windows and out

moustachebandit

1,269 posts

144 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Looking to install a PIV in the next few weeks due to consistent issues with condensation which have got really bad this year.

Can anyone advise whether the models that feature hall controls are worth the added investment? Are the units normally set and forget or are there occasions you might want to ramp up the air flow /

Equally does the heated version make much difference to the incoming air to justify the additional purchase price & running costs?

Regards