Conservation area, enforcement order
Discussion
Nationwide has the average UK house price in 1982 at £24,177.
That house is in London so I’d of put it in excess of that.
Right to buy was generous but surely not a 95% plus reduction?
https://www.nationwide.co.uk/-/media/MainSite/docu...
That house is in London so I’d of put it in excess of that.
Right to buy was generous but surely not a 95% plus reduction?
https://www.nationwide.co.uk/-/media/MainSite/docu...
Bussolini said:
Thankyou4calling said:
Even with right to buy that (£1200) sounds too low.
I bought a flat in Brockley SE4 in 1989 and it was £72,000.
It seems unusually low, but that is what the document says...I bought a flat in Brockley SE4 in 1989 and it was £72,000.
Bussolini said:
It would be pretty annoying, but aren't all houses a bit of a risk like that? I hoped a building survey (an expensive one!) would reduce that risk.
You are right, all house have issues. FWIW, I'd readily tolerate the ones at your place. They are relatively minor, easily fixed if pressed, and I wouldn't expect elderly sellers who have lived there for a lifetime to give a s
t. The boiler is a non-issue. Get it serviced soon but you may want to replace it when you have spare cash if it's very old and inefficient. Nothing you're experiencing is unusual in my experience.
Jump in, enjoy buying your first London gaff and stop worrying about stuff that most houses suffer from. Good luck.
blueg33 said:
I would be more worried about living with the kitchen tiling and wooden ceiling than old enforcement on the car port 
I would check with the water authority (probably Thames Water) about the build over agreement , or just insure it. (note insurance is a sticking plaster not a fix).
Yes the interior needs some modernisation I would check with the water authority (probably Thames Water) about the build over agreement , or just insure it. (note insurance is a sticking plaster not a fix).
it's perfectly liveable though!As a brief update, the conveyancer has now told us the mortgage lender is happy to proceed with an indemnity policy regarding the rear extension. Which is VERY annoying, as we had postponed having the survey done (£714!) until the conveyancer confirmed the mortgage lender was happy to proceed, which she did. I have no doubt the seller will refuse to cover the cost and we will then have to decide whether to play hard ball or not.
The conveyancer has also reached out to the council on the enforcement order, without checking with me first. Might this cause a big issue as it is effectively flagging to the council that there may be a planning problem with the car port and/or plastic windows?
The conveyancer has also reached out to the council on the enforcement order, without checking with me first. Might this cause a big issue as it is effectively flagging to the council that there may be a planning problem with the car port and/or plastic windows?
Edited by Bussolini on Thursday 30th January 10:27
Bussolini said:
As a brief update, the conveyancer has now told us the mortgage lender is happy to proceed with an indemnity policy regarding the rear extension. Which is VERY annoying, as we had postponed having the survey done (£714!) until the conveyancer confirmed the mortgage lender was happy to proceed, which she did. I have no doubt the seller will refuse to cover the cost and we will then have to decide whether to play hard ball or not.
The conveyancer has also reached out to the council on the enforcement order, without checking with me first. Might this cause a big issue as it is effectively flagging to the council that there may be a planning problem with the car port and/or plastic windows?
Are all conveyancers this useless?
If you are taking out an indemnity policy, it will be a condition of the policy that you don't talk to anyone about the items covered.The conveyancer has also reached out to the council on the enforcement order, without checking with me first. Might this cause a big issue as it is effectively flagging to the council that there may be a planning problem with the car port and/or plastic windows?
Are all conveyancers this useless?
blueg33 said:
If you are taking out an indemnity policy, it will be a condition of the policy that you don't talk to anyone about the items covered.
I don't think we could get an indemnity policy in respect of the enforcement notice anyway, as there was already enforcement action taken. It's more that the Council might say "Oh, the enforcement order wasn't complied with, let's take further enforcement action". Bussolini said:
blueg33 said:
If you are taking out an indemnity policy, it will be a condition of the policy that you don't talk to anyone about the items covered.
I don't think we could get an indemnity policy in respect of the enforcement notice anyway, as there was already enforcement action taken. It's more that the Council might say "Oh, the enforcement order wasn't complied with, let's take further enforcement action". Survey in. Few things jumped out at me re the roof, problematic and worth rediscussing price or typical arse covering?
Summary was:
"This property is in a reasonable condition but with some items of maintenance and repair required.
The property is considered a reasonable proposition for purchase if you are prepared to accept the
costs and inconvenience of dealing with the various repair works reported. These deficiencies are
quite common in properties of this age and type. Further investigations are recommended with
respect to the electrical installation, the gas installation and the central heating and hot water
systems."
"The roofs were covered with concrete plain tiles with concrete ridge tiles. Many slipped tiles were
noted, particularly to the front eaves and as is quite usual, some mortar deterioration was evident to
the ridge tiles and some localised repair will be beneficial when high level access is next gained.
Broken tiles should be replaced."
"The quantity of slipped tiles suggest that the roof covering is approaching the end of its effective life and ongoing maintenance and repairs should be expected prior to renewal in the next 5 to 10 years"
Extension felt roof - "The roof covering is approaching the end of its effective life and the surface finish is deteriorating. This will require renewal in the shorter term"
Summary was:
"This property is in a reasonable condition but with some items of maintenance and repair required.
The property is considered a reasonable proposition for purchase if you are prepared to accept the
costs and inconvenience of dealing with the various repair works reported. These deficiencies are
quite common in properties of this age and type. Further investigations are recommended with
respect to the electrical installation, the gas installation and the central heating and hot water
systems."
"The roofs were covered with concrete plain tiles with concrete ridge tiles. Many slipped tiles were
noted, particularly to the front eaves and as is quite usual, some mortar deterioration was evident to
the ridge tiles and some localised repair will be beneficial when high level access is next gained.
Broken tiles should be replaced."
"The quantity of slipped tiles suggest that the roof covering is approaching the end of its effective life and ongoing maintenance and repairs should be expected prior to renewal in the next 5 to 10 years"
Extension felt roof - "The roof covering is approaching the end of its effective life and the surface finish is deteriorating. This will require renewal in the shorter term"
Sounds like a good buy to me.
My main concerns would be
!) Roof - get estimate from roofer for repairs may get another 20 or 30 years out of it by just replacing slipped tiles/slats as required
2) Electrics- this would concern me more, get electrician to look at it and give you an estimate
3) Drains -get company to put camera down drains on site if old clay drains will show any faults including drain under extension.
(My 1930 bungalow also had tree roots growing in drain)
If work needs doing its time to negotiate- I gave copies of my reports to vendors and their solicitor so they would have to disclose for any other subsequent purchasers. Can also throw in cost of new boiler removing car port etc.as starting point..
1930's bungalow was newly refurbished, looked superb but surveyors report showed needed about £25k of work. Asked vendor to put all items right- they said no so walked away. Few months later he came back to say a lot of work had been done and he was prepared to negotiate on price. Deal done.
Good luck hope you make a successful purchase
My main concerns would be
!) Roof - get estimate from roofer for repairs may get another 20 or 30 years out of it by just replacing slipped tiles/slats as required
2) Electrics- this would concern me more, get electrician to look at it and give you an estimate
3) Drains -get company to put camera down drains on site if old clay drains will show any faults including drain under extension.
(My 1930 bungalow also had tree roots growing in drain)
If work needs doing its time to negotiate- I gave copies of my reports to vendors and their solicitor so they would have to disclose for any other subsequent purchasers. Can also throw in cost of new boiler removing car port etc.as starting point..
1930's bungalow was newly refurbished, looked superb but surveyors report showed needed about £25k of work. Asked vendor to put all items right- they said no so walked away. Few months later he came back to say a lot of work had been done and he was prepared to negotiate on price. Deal done.
Good luck hope you make a successful purchase
twokcc said:
You live in wrong.place. In Yorkshire could give you name, been in business for more than 40 years give you a quote and do you a brilliant job
The suggestion seems to be they would give a free quote on my own property, but not on one I am looking to buy (presumably because too many people just want it as a negotiating tool rather than having any real intention to get work done...). Bussolini said:
Would/should a roofer give a free quote? First one I called wanted £300 for the pleasure.
That's a roofer to swerve then!It's unusual to have to pay for a quote (they obviously don't want the job), try a few others.
It looks like a nice property, yes it needs a few bob spending on it but it doesn't sound bad at all.
Put a low ball offer in, nothing to lose.
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