Concrete spur for fence posts
Discussion
jakesmith said:
As I’m sure many have discovered this/last weekend, my fence posts have collapsed.
What what the failure mode? The post itself snapped, at ground level? Any sign of rot? Or came out of the ground in one piece?What are the posts put in with? Gravel or concrete?
Personally if you get free posts, I would likely put them in like-for like. However the work is similar for using concrete spur posts, would save the cost of new posts, while retaining the look of an all timber fence from a few feet up.
I don't know if concrete spurs are stronger than a good timber post or not, but I expect they might be a bit stronger till the steel goes.
Daniel
dhutch said:
As in £60 each, to fit a spur, replacing an old? So for 11 posts £660? Multiple post discount, or hourly rate for larger jobs?
£60 a spur yes, it gets better value Multiple posts. It’s one of them jobs where it could be a breeze or an absolute nightmare. Example - last job Thursday was x2 4” spurs. It took two of us 90mins, use of a breaker and generator, and 3bags of post fix each. Absolute nightmare.
His mornings job, x4 4” spurs, in and out within about 50mins.
To do 11 posts, bank on paying around £450/500.
MattCharlton91 said:
£60 a spur yes, it gets better value Multiple posts. It’s one of them jobs where it could be a breeze or an absolute nightmare.
Example - last job Thursday was x2 4” spurs. It took two of us 90mins, use of a breaker and generator, and 3bags of post fix each. Absolute nightmare.
His mornings job, x4 4” spurs, in and out within about 50mins.
To do 11 posts, bank on paying around £450/500.
I've had a response from the contractor who came round, he's saying £880 + VAT and apparently Jackson's have offered £190 as a refund of the original purchase price of the posts....Example - last job Thursday was x2 4” spurs. It took two of us 90mins, use of a breaker and generator, and 3bags of post fix each. Absolute nightmare.
His mornings job, x4 4” spurs, in and out within about 50mins.
To do 11 posts, bank on paying around £450/500.
Don't suppose you're ever in the Surrey area at all? LOL
£450 with a £200 refund from Jacksons would be less painful
I don't really want to DIY it but my car has just swallowed up another small fortune & we're therefore skint at the mo
Edited by jakesmith on Monday 17th February 17:36
jakesmith said:
I've had a response from the contractor who came round, he's saying £880 + VAT and apparently Jackson's have offered £190 as a refund of the original purchase price of the posts....
Don't suppose you're ever in the Surrey area at all? LOL
£450 with a £200 refund from Jacksons would be less painful
I don't really want to DIY it but my car has just swallowed up another small fortune & we're therefore skint at the mo
Unfortunately being Peterborough based it’s a bit far out for me! Consider that a big result from Jackson’s!Don't suppose you're ever in the Surrey area at all? LOL
£450 with a £200 refund from Jacksons would be less painful
I don't really want to DIY it but my car has just swallowed up another small fortune & we're therefore skint at the mo
Edited by jakesmith on Monday 17th February 17:36
Is the contractors quote based on replacing the posts like for like? Or is that to fit the spurs? Any local contractor will do the spurs, although due to the storms, if you want it doing sooner than later, expect to pay a premium.
MattCharlton91 said:
jakesmith said:
I've had a response from the contractor who came round, he's saying £880 + VAT and apparently Jackson's have offered £190 as a refund of the original purchase price of the posts....
Don't suppose you're ever in the Surrey area at all? LOL
£450 with a £200 refund from Jacksons would be less painful
I don't really want to DIY it but my car has just swallowed up another small fortune & we're therefore skint at the mo
Unfortunately being Peterborough based it’s a bit far out for me! Consider that a big result from Jackson’s!Don't suppose you're ever in the Surrey area at all? LOL
£450 with a £200 refund from Jacksons would be less painful
I don't really want to DIY it but my car has just swallowed up another small fortune & we're therefore skint at the mo
Edited by jakesmith on Monday 17th February 17:36
Is the contractors quote based on replacing the posts like for like? Or is that to fit the spurs? Any local contractor will do the spurs, although due to the storms, if you want it doing sooner than later, expect to pay a premium.
MattCharlton91 said:
Unfortunately being Peterborough based it’s a bit far out for me! Consider that a big result from Jackson’s!
Is the contractors quote based on replacing the posts like for like? Or is that to fit the spurs? Any local contractor will do the spurs, although due to the storms, if you want it doing sooner than later, expect to pay a premium.
Matt, given your in Peterborough do you cover Stamford ? I've got 1 post gone but thinking about re doing most of the fence.Is the contractors quote based on replacing the posts like for like? Or is that to fit the spurs? Any local contractor will do the spurs, although due to the storms, if you want it doing sooner than later, expect to pay a premium.
I've got 3 to do, did one last weekend, took about 3 hours due to having to cut through tree roots.
Another one done today, 2½ hours total.
Reckon one of the double handled grabbers and the post hole digger would have cut this time in half. I did have a 5kg breaker which got through the concrete alongside the post easy enough.
£50-60 seems a 'reasonable' price to me. If in includes materials even more so.
If you have shrubs alongside, do you have enough room to work? Or will you have to dig those up first as I had to here?
Another one done today, 2½ hours total.
Reckon one of the double handled grabbers and the post hole digger would have cut this time in half. I did have a 5kg breaker which got through the concrete alongside the post easy enough.
£50-60 seems a 'reasonable' price to me. If in includes materials even more so.
If you have shrubs alongside, do you have enough room to work? Or will you have to dig those up first as I had to here?
Edited by Chester draws on Monday 17th February 19:03
Chester draws said:
I've got 3 to do, did one last weekend, took about 3 hours due to having to cut through tree roots.
Another one done today, 2½ hours total.
Reckon one of the double handled grabbers and the post hole digger would have cut this time in half. I did have a 5kg breaker which got through the concrete alongside the post easy enough.
£50-60 seems a 'reasonable' price to me. If in includes materials even more so.
If you have shrubs alongside, do you have enough room to work? Or will you have to dig those up first?
I'll be OK hopefully without digging up shrubs! I will buy all the right tools including the digging bar and the scoop tool and post spade. Another one done today, 2½ hours total.
Reckon one of the double handled grabbers and the post hole digger would have cut this time in half. I did have a 5kg breaker which got through the concrete alongside the post easy enough.
£50-60 seems a 'reasonable' price to me. If in includes materials even more so.
If you have shrubs alongside, do you have enough room to work? Or will you have to dig those up first?
I didn't realise so many needed doing, I can buy everything to do the 11 for £350, quite a saving over £880
£880 +vat is very steep indeed!
Have a go! You may just enjoy it! Follow the step by step you’ll be fine. Would pics to go with the steps be helpful too? (Apologies if I’m teaching you to suck eggs!)
Typically a spur takes me around 30mins start to finish, but that’s with a good heavy graft, and 13years of pain/experience.
Have a go! You may just enjoy it! Follow the step by step you’ll be fine. Would pics to go with the steps be helpful too? (Apologies if I’m teaching you to suck eggs!)
Typically a spur takes me around 30mins start to finish, but that’s with a good heavy graft, and 13years of pain/experience.
MattCharlton91 said:
£880 +vat is very steep indeed!
Have a go! You may just enjoy it! Follow the step by step you’ll be fine. Would pics to go with the steps be helpful too? (Apologies if I’m teaching you to suck eggs!)
Typically a spur takes me around 30mins start to finish, but that’s with a good heavy graft, and 13years of pain/experience.
Thanks!Have a go! You may just enjoy it! Follow the step by step you’ll be fine. Would pics to go with the steps be helpful too? (Apologies if I’m teaching you to suck eggs!)
Typically a spur takes me around 30mins start to finish, but that’s with a good heavy graft, and 13years of pain/experience.
Should be OK, got 2 days to do it + a friend coming round for day 2. I have used it as an excuse to buy some new tools
If I get the £200 back from Jacksons the job will cost me £300 all in
Rather that, get some exercise, learn a new skill & get some quality tools to keep, than pay double for someoone to do it for me
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|https://thumbsnap.com/J6SG2Oid[/url]A good guide is maybe £200/day inc vat but plus materials, depending on the trade sand where in the country you are. I would expect you could get fencing done for a lot less.
A spur is what £20-25 and a bag of postcret £5, less if you mix your own which isn't hard. So that's maybe £300 materials inc the vat.
At which point £880+vat or £1050 inc is fairly strong money. Presumably because they are busy, trying their luck, or just didn't want the job.
I'm no expert, but have had a fair few trades in recently, have put in a few posts in my life, and can do basic sums.
Makes hedge plants seem bloody cheap!
Daniel
A spur is what £20-25 and a bag of postcret £5, less if you mix your own which isn't hard. So that's maybe £300 materials inc the vat.
At which point £880+vat or £1050 inc is fairly strong money. Presumably because they are busy, trying their luck, or just didn't want the job.
I'm no expert, but have had a fair few trades in recently, have put in a few posts in my life, and can do basic sums.
Makes hedge plants seem bloody cheap!
Daniel
dhutch said:
A good guide is maybe £200/day inc vat but plus materials, depending on the trade sand where in the country you are. I would expect you could get fencing done for a lot less.
A spur is what £20-25 and a bag of postcret £5, less if you mix your own which isn't hard. So that's maybe £300 materials inc the vat.
At which point £880+vat or £1050 inc is fairly strong money. Presumably because they are busy, trying their luck, or just didn't want the job.
I'm no expert, but have had a fair few trades in recently, have put in a few posts in my life, and can do basic sums.
Makes hedge plants seem bloody cheap!
Daniel
It does seem strong. A spur is what £20-25 and a bag of postcret £5, less if you mix your own which isn't hard. So that's maybe £300 materials inc the vat.
At which point £880+vat or £1050 inc is fairly strong money. Presumably because they are busy, trying their luck, or just didn't want the job.
I'm no expert, but have had a fair few trades in recently, have put in a few posts in my life, and can do basic sums.
Makes hedge plants seem bloody cheap!
Daniel
I'd expect a competent fencer, working on his own, to do that job in a day.
I live in an extremely wealthy area and the guy will let me skip the 3 month wait he has, as he has done major work for my neighbour. I’d be ok with that price per spur if it was 2,3,4 need doing as it wouldn’t be worth my while to buy the tools and do it myself. The way I see it is I’m saving £500 and getting a load of new tools for free. Have wanted an impact driver for a few years now what better excuse than to drive in 22 coach screws... or is it not advised from a cracking concrete POV?
jakesmith said:
I live in an extremely wealthy area and the guy will let me skip the 3 month wait he has, as he has done major work for my neighbour. I’d be ok with that price per spur if it was 2,3,4 need doing as it wouldn’t be worth my while to buy the tools and do it myself. The way I see it is I’m saving £500 and getting a load of new tools for free. Have wanted an impact driver for a few years now what better excuse than to drive in 22 coach screws... or is it not advised from a cracking concrete POV?
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jakesmith said:
I live in an extremely wealthy area and the guy will let me skip the 3 month wait he has, as he has done major work for my neighbour. I’d be ok with that price per spur if it was 2,3,4 need doing as it wouldn’t be worth my while to buy the tools and do it myself. The way I see it is I’m saving £500 and getting a load of new tools for free. Have wanted an impact driver for a few years now what better excuse than to drive in 22 coach screws... or is it not advised from a cracking concrete POV?
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