Concrete spur for fence posts
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End of day 1 of having 14 concrete spur fitted to associated rotten timber posts forming uprights of garden length arbor. Cost is £770 all-in. Otherwise would have had to cover cost of a new one which would be over £2000 inc trellis to one side along full length. Two guys on site all day digging 3' deep holes, installing spurs, re-levelling and backfilling with concrete. Finishing tomorrow morning and putting back topsoil later. Very little damage to existing planting.
Proper pleased with that! 'Appy days.
Proper pleased with that! 'Appy days.
^ I'd start with a chainsaw to be honest!
Here's mine. I habve replaced all the lights most of which I broke doing the job and were knackered anyway. Last job is to losen the coach screws and make the washer square with the posts before re-tightening. Couldn't be bothered at the time. 10 minute job with the impact driver.
Here's mine. I habve replaced all the lights most of which I broke doing the job and were knackered anyway. Last job is to losen the coach screws and make the washer square with the posts before re-tightening. Couldn't be bothered at the time. 10 minute job with the impact driver.
yellowjack said:
I'm watching this thread with interest.
I moved in to (hopefully) my last house last year, and one of the things that needs doing is the fence.
Three concrete spurs were used to repair the fence before we viewed the place, there's at least one post in one of those metal spike things, and the others are behind a huge hedge so I've no idea. The other two sides of the garden have slotted concrete posts already, the bottom edge of the garden also has gravel boards in place.
I'm curious as to the amount of work it will take to dig out the various existing posts on the "bad" side of the garden, and how much it should cost (ball-park figure) to get a contractor to do it PROPERLY. It looks like 6 x 6 foot panels plus one that's about 18 inches wide. Then i'd need six or seven slotted posts too, depending on how I fix the ends of the fence. It runs from the back wall of my garage to the corner of a neighbour's garage. The fence at the bottom of the garden has a slotted post tight up against his garage wall, so I'm wondering if I can do the same on the side fence.
I fancy something more "resilient" than thin feather-edge panels, perhaps something with a scalloped trellis at the top. I'm presuming the labour for such a job is a big chunk of the cost? Four replacement panels are needed for the bottom edge of the garden too, but (again a presumption) I think these are just a case of lift out the old, drop in the new?
Naturally I'm going to consult a local contractor (or three) for quotes after my new bathroom gets done, but I was wondering if any of the fencing contractor PHers would mind giving their thoughts on a rough estimate for 6 full 6 foot panels, 6 full height slotted concrete posts, a roughly 18 inch filler panel, and whatever treatment is best at the ends. Two of the feather edge panels used to repair the fence before we moved in look sound, so could be used to replace panels on the bottom edge of the garden to save pennies.
Pictures...
Bottom of the garden. Four panels, slotted posts, and gravel boards. Fence was hidden by overgrowth from next door's hedge/shrubs. Rotten, completely, so needs replacing.
Turning left we have the bottom part of the side fence that needs the most work. Two panels on the left are new-ish, the others are all falling apart or bodged up. The bench on the left is rotten too, having been discovered in an 8 ft high bramble bush, the root of which can be seen next to the corner of the garage. This garden is taking a lot of time and effort, and it's toll on my back!
Behind the shed is a horror show. This panel is beyond help, but getting to it from my side is difficult. I'll be getting rid of the over-sized wooden shed though, and replacing it with something smaller, so access shouldn't be a problem when the time to replace the fence arrives.
The hedge, and behind it a couple more fence panels. This is the north side of the garden, tucked behind the house and garage. It doesn't get much sun, but doesn't rob me of light either. I need to cut it back, or possibly get rid of it entirely, but my wife wants it kept.
The little "filler" section of fence. Not sure how I can rotate the image? At the bottom is the garage wall and rainwater downpipe, nestled behind a hedge which needs an aggressive prune back.
The other complication is that I don't have access to the garden other than through my garage. So anything that comes in/out will need to fit through a domestic sized door frame. I'll have a word with my next door neighbour, though, as he has direct garden access and will probably be delighted to allow access if it means a nicer fence for them to look at.
When we moved in the fences were mainly hidden behind over grown foliage. Brambles 8 ft high and as thick as trees in places, ivy covering the roof and back wall of the garage at the bottom of the garden. I might have upset the bottom edge neighbour, too, by cutting back "his" hedge/shrubs. That's his garage, and I think I've done him a favour by cutting back the ivy that was lifting his garage roof tiles and trying to grow into his window frame. He asked for access to do this when we moved in but he couldn't get to the ivy behind the brambles. I haven't spoken to him recently so don't know where i stand with him. Deeds are vague as to whether it's his responsibility or ours to replace the bottom fence, but if he's happy for the work to be done, I'm happy to pay for the panels because I can see them from my kitchen, where they're hidden by his hedge/shrubs on his side.
Again, anyone who has a professional interest in fencing, it would be appreciated if you could give me a nod as to the starting price I should expect to pay for a job like this. I'm in Bournemouth, Dorset, if that makes a difference to anything...
I’m a Cambridgeshire based contractor, but for slotted concrete posts, concrete gravelboards and decent closeboard panels we are £110/120 per fitted panel. The end cut panels will be counted /charged as a full panel too. I moved in to (hopefully) my last house last year, and one of the things that needs doing is the fence.
Three concrete spurs were used to repair the fence before we viewed the place, there's at least one post in one of those metal spike things, and the others are behind a huge hedge so I've no idea. The other two sides of the garden have slotted concrete posts already, the bottom edge of the garden also has gravel boards in place.
I'm curious as to the amount of work it will take to dig out the various existing posts on the "bad" side of the garden, and how much it should cost (ball-park figure) to get a contractor to do it PROPERLY. It looks like 6 x 6 foot panels plus one that's about 18 inches wide. Then i'd need six or seven slotted posts too, depending on how I fix the ends of the fence. It runs from the back wall of my garage to the corner of a neighbour's garage. The fence at the bottom of the garden has a slotted post tight up against his garage wall, so I'm wondering if I can do the same on the side fence.
I fancy something more "resilient" than thin feather-edge panels, perhaps something with a scalloped trellis at the top. I'm presuming the labour for such a job is a big chunk of the cost? Four replacement panels are needed for the bottom edge of the garden too, but (again a presumption) I think these are just a case of lift out the old, drop in the new?
Naturally I'm going to consult a local contractor (or three) for quotes after my new bathroom gets done, but I was wondering if any of the fencing contractor PHers would mind giving their thoughts on a rough estimate for 6 full 6 foot panels, 6 full height slotted concrete posts, a roughly 18 inch filler panel, and whatever treatment is best at the ends. Two of the feather edge panels used to repair the fence before we moved in look sound, so could be used to replace panels on the bottom edge of the garden to save pennies.
Pictures...
Bottom of the garden. Four panels, slotted posts, and gravel boards. Fence was hidden by overgrowth from next door's hedge/shrubs. Rotten, completely, so needs replacing.
Turning left we have the bottom part of the side fence that needs the most work. Two panels on the left are new-ish, the others are all falling apart or bodged up. The bench on the left is rotten too, having been discovered in an 8 ft high bramble bush, the root of which can be seen next to the corner of the garage. This garden is taking a lot of time and effort, and it's toll on my back!
Behind the shed is a horror show. This panel is beyond help, but getting to it from my side is difficult. I'll be getting rid of the over-sized wooden shed though, and replacing it with something smaller, so access shouldn't be a problem when the time to replace the fence arrives.
The hedge, and behind it a couple more fence panels. This is the north side of the garden, tucked behind the house and garage. It doesn't get much sun, but doesn't rob me of light either. I need to cut it back, or possibly get rid of it entirely, but my wife wants it kept.
The little "filler" section of fence. Not sure how I can rotate the image? At the bottom is the garage wall and rainwater downpipe, nestled behind a hedge which needs an aggressive prune back.
The other complication is that I don't have access to the garden other than through my garage. So anything that comes in/out will need to fit through a domestic sized door frame. I'll have a word with my next door neighbour, though, as he has direct garden access and will probably be delighted to allow access if it means a nicer fence for them to look at.
When we moved in the fences were mainly hidden behind over grown foliage. Brambles 8 ft high and as thick as trees in places, ivy covering the roof and back wall of the garage at the bottom of the garden. I might have upset the bottom edge neighbour, too, by cutting back "his" hedge/shrubs. That's his garage, and I think I've done him a favour by cutting back the ivy that was lifting his garage roof tiles and trying to grow into his window frame. He asked for access to do this when we moved in but he couldn't get to the ivy behind the brambles. I haven't spoken to him recently so don't know where i stand with him. Deeds are vague as to whether it's his responsibility or ours to replace the bottom fence, but if he's happy for the work to be done, I'm happy to pay for the panels because I can see them from my kitchen, where they're hidden by his hedge/shrubs on his side.
Again, anyone who has a professional interest in fencing, it would be appreciated if you could give me a nod as to the starting price I should expect to pay for a job like this. I'm in Bournemouth, Dorset, if that makes a difference to anything...
Edited by yellowjack on Thursday 19th March 15:50
As far as timber treatment goes, there just isn’t any substitute for proper creosote, but it’s not easy to obtain properly treated posts anymore. The jacksons treatment is marginally better than the normal class 4 treatment, but I wouldn’t say it’s night and day.
We’re getting calls to replace 4x4 posts that were supposedly class 4 treated, that were installed as little as 4/5 years ago.
MattCharlton91 said:
I’m a Cambridgeshire based contractor, but for slotted concrete posts, concrete gravelboards and decent closeboard panels we are £110/120 per fitted panel. The end cut panels will be counted /charged as a full panel too.
As far as timber treatment goes, there just isn’t any substitute for proper creosote, but it’s not easy to obtain properly treated posts anymore. The jacksons treatment is marginally better than the normal class 4 treatment, but I wouldn’t say it’s night and day.
We’re getting calls to replace 4x4 posts that were supposedly class 4 treated, that were installed as little as 4/5 years ago.
Thanks for the response! So it looks like it will be more expensive than I'd hoped then? I'd guessed that the end panel would count as a whole too, so thanks for confirming that. Looks like at least £800 for the worst run of fence then. Gutted really, because I might have to bodge repair the worst panels for now, with the hope of setting aside funds to do it properly later. I don't want to do it on the cheap, because this house a to live in long term, not just a tart up and punt on blowover, so I want to guard against having to replace posts again 5 to 10 years down the line. At least if we have concrete posts and gravel boards, replacement panels will be easier/cheaper to source/sort in the future...As far as timber treatment goes, there just isn’t any substitute for proper creosote, but it’s not easy to obtain properly treated posts anymore. The jacksons treatment is marginally better than the normal class 4 treatment, but I wouldn’t say it’s night and day.
We’re getting calls to replace 4x4 posts that were supposedly class 4 treated, that were installed as little as 4/5 years ago.
Chris Type R said:
Been quoted 200 for 2 spurs and the chap doesn't seem in too much of a rush to do them. I expect I'll have to DIY them this weekend.
I had three spurs done in Milton Keynes last month and it was £200 (not cash) - I needed three doing but he only bought two concrete spurs, so the third was done with a wooden spur and he claimed he didn’t charge me for that!eliot said:
Chris Type R said:
Been quoted 200 for 2 spurs and the chap doesn't seem in too much of a rush to do them. I expect I'll have to DIY them this weekend.
I had three spurs done in Milton Keynes last month and it was £200 (not cash) - I needed three doing but he only bought two concrete spurs, so the third was done with a wooden spur and he claimed he didn’t charge me for that!i had to remove 32 concrete fence posts all had various amounts of concrete holding them in place ,
I made an A frame and mounted a farm jack bought for £ 25 and a tow rope was very easy to pull out the posts , there was 1 rotten wooden one i put a bolt through and pulled out using the same method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC_3JIHmDt0
i installed colourfence posts and panels
completed
I made an A frame and mounted a farm jack bought for £ 25 and a tow rope was very easy to pull out the posts , there was 1 rotten wooden one i put a bolt through and pulled out using the same method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC_3JIHmDt0
i installed colourfence posts and panels
completed
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