Heating Oil Price Rocketing
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KTMsm said:
PushedDover said:
They clearly only dropped off 600L
It was 157 before delivery
Don't start MrSpoon off - he swears that short deliveries are impossible and have been for 40 yearsIt was 157 before delivery
PushedDover said:
Bill said:
+1 I tried loyalty and a regular top up scheme and they just took the piss on pricing. Reap what you sow...
I have a good one to add too:My local suggested I put a remote tank monitor in.
I just ordered 900 litres.
Was billed for 900 litres.
Yet:
Edit - you've posted your meter slip says 900L. This is what you would have had delivered, regardless what your kingspan gauge might say.
AlmostUseful said:
KTMsm said:
PushedDover said:
They clearly only dropped off 600L
It was 157 before delivery
Don't start MrSpoon off - he swears that short deliveries are impossible and have been for 40 yearsIt was 157 before delivery
FunkyGibbon said:
Mr Spoon said:
Even when there were recent issues getting a fuel delivery and Boilerjuice were cancelling orders and leaving people high and dry, I am amazed how quickly and how fickle customers can be to go rushing back.
Nobody predicted any of the last few fuel crisis periods, in fact, I'd be amazed if any crisis period has been predicted. So thinking this won't happen again or it won't happen to you is great until it does. I really cannot emphasise this enough, find a local supplier and let them help you. It will pay dividends when there is a supply issue.
Keep in mind I only cover a very small and limited area of operation. I have no benefit to writing this. PH users accidentally steering themselves to my phone line will make zero difference to my bottom line.
Find a good local firm and stick with them.
You keep saying this, and yesterday I tried 9 local (according to google) suppliers. 2 would not quote and only 1 beat BJ.Nobody predicted any of the last few fuel crisis periods, in fact, I'd be amazed if any crisis period has been predicted. So thinking this won't happen again or it won't happen to you is great until it does. I really cannot emphasise this enough, find a local supplier and let them help you. It will pay dividends when there is a supply issue.
Keep in mind I only cover a very small and limited area of operation. I have no benefit to writing this. PH users accidentally steering themselves to my phone line will make zero difference to my bottom line.
Find a good local firm and stick with them.
What is the magic I am missing, If you know of anyone (even yourself) that would service on the South Leics/Warks border please PM me as I'd be delighted to help the locals out.
Edited to add that inn Feb BJ were the ONLY people who could find me a supplier. The local that fulfilled the order would not answer the phone at the time, nor would they yesterday, despite their driver in Feb giving me the so called "special|" number for best rates and best delivery time.
TIA FG
Edited by FunkyGibbon on Wednesday 27th April 08:21
Also amazed that anyone would buy from a driver that a "special" number exists for pricing, delivery, whatever.
Mr Spoon said:
It's not about beating boilerjuice.
Also amazed that anyone would buy from a driver that a "special" number exists for pricing, delivery, whatever.
So what is it then? Why your beef with Boiler Juice? I don't get it. Despite the cost they were the only agent who would get anyone to deliver - ANYONE I tried them all within about 60mile radius,Also amazed that anyone would buy from a driver that a "special" number exists for pricing, delivery, whatever.
The driver gave me the direct dial of the office - rather than the pubic facing number - my use of the "special". I don't see what is odd about that.
FunkyGibbon said:
Mr Spoon said:
It's not about beating boilerjuice.
Also amazed that anyone would buy from a driver that a "special" number exists for pricing, delivery, whatever.
Why your beef with Boiler Juice? I don't get it. Also amazed that anyone would buy from a driver that a "special" number exists for pricing, delivery, whatever.
BJ have no assets.
BJ have no drivers.
BJ have no depots.
BJ has no fuel.
BJ has no control.
Need I go on?
it is a false sense of security. Also note your comment about BJ being the only one able to deliver, horsecrap. They have not tankers, so what you mean is, because you use BJ or call many companies, no wanted to deliver and preferred to deliver to customers who look after them.
Mr Spoon said:
I hope I am wrong. One day you will be in a situation where my comments will ring true.
BJ have no assets.
BJ have no drivers.
BJ have no depots.
BJ has no fuel.
BJ has no control.
Need I go on?
it is a false sense of security. Also note your comment about BJ being the only one able to deliver, horsecrap. They have not tankers, so what you mean is, because you use BJ or call many companies, no wanted to deliver and preferred to deliver to customers who look after them.
Sorry that is as you say that is horsecrap. I said BJ were the only broker who could get someone with tankers to deliver. I know they have no tankers.BJ have no assets.
BJ have no drivers.
BJ have no depots.
BJ has no fuel.
BJ has no control.
Need I go on?
it is a false sense of security. Also note your comment about BJ being the only one able to deliver, horsecrap. They have not tankers, so what you mean is, because you use BJ or call many companies, no wanted to deliver and preferred to deliver to customers who look after them.
GoCompare/MoneySavingExpert are similar services, with little to no assets etc. They work.
I have been trying to use the same local and they simply can't be arsed for what whatever reason. As soon as time gets tough off they f
k.I want supplier who look after me. I'm the customer with the money. I'll pay a small premium for local - but they cannot support me.
Trust me - if I could support the locals I would. But they cannot support me, I have tried.
If you can or know someone who could support me - then PM me and I'll jump, even if slightly more.
Please suggest to us mere mortals how we secure value for money and support the local indies.
You may be lucky that you have a nice small (by your words) local and loyal customer base. Or are you pi55ed off you cannot get on the clearly lucrative BJ gig?
Mr Spoon said:
PushedDover said:
Bill said:
+1 I tried loyalty and a regular top up scheme and they just took the piss on pricing. Reap what you sow...
I have a good one to add too:My local suggested I put a remote tank monitor in.
I just ordered 900 litres.
Was billed for 900 litres.
Yet:
Edit - you've posted your meter slip says 900L. This is what you would have had delivered, regardless what your kingspan gauge might say.
And if so, I want my £199 back from the same supplier that has installed a faulty Kingspan then.
Their choice.
Lonoxe said:
Is there a foolproof way to ascertain the exact volume of oil delivered by suppliers?
Use a dipstick or sight gaugeMy tank has a sight gauge - I quickly calculated the volume and have marked the gauge with 100L increments to make it very simple to check my usage (and deliveries)
PushedDover said:
I don’t believe this is the case
And if so, I want my £199 back from the same supplier that has installed a faulty Kingspan then.
Their choice.
Having watched the video of the product - it just seems to measure the level not the capacity. I assume you have entered the tank capacity and there’s an assumption that the height of the oil is a linear relationship to volume and also assumes the device has been corrected positioned and calibrated to the tank height (internally if it’s double skinned)And if so, I want my £199 back from the same supplier that has installed a faulty Kingspan then.
Their choice.
PushedDover said:
Lonoxe said:
Is there a foolproof way to ascertain the exact volume of oil delivered by suppliers?
Depends if you believe Mr Spoon I guessI’m 100% certain I’ve been short changed.
Will check tomorrow or the weekend dipping the tank
I had a customer insist we haven't delivered the required quantity. 1400L tank and we delivered 1400L.
Bund is dry.
Tank was "empty" which means dead stock.
So in theory it's impossible to deliver 1400L into a tank that can't take it.
After refusing to understand that a 1400L tank takes at least another 100L, I arrived with a couple of engineers, pumped out the entire tank and metered off 1546L.
He was so confident he was right, I told him what the fee would be for doing so. All of a sudden, his most expensive oil became the most expensive in the country.
You cannot run a fuel company without weights and measures sealed meters. You have not been short changed.
Anyone who thinks this is barking up the wrong tree.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 28th April 08:37
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