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AJB88 said:
So ours has taken a turn for the worst today, 14 weeks in since selling/buying, people below me are about 17 weeks in.
People above pushing for completion next Friday, exchange today/tomorrow after the bloke above took out a policy due to an argument over sewage outlet, which has been holding us up. All ready to go.
Contacted solicitor/estate agents to feed back to below about next Friday to see if that was acceptable. 2 hours later get a call back expecting a yes or no to be told the house below us.. it has just come to light that they need a management pack to sell it. it could take between 4-8 weeks to turn up and there's no ETA.
So as well as doing a 12 hour shift I've spent most of the day shouting at people.
Were number 3 in a chain of 5, number 5 has said no thanks and wants out now.
I'm switching from day shifts to nights tomorrow so usually a good opportunity to drown sorrows but I'm going to go smash out a big leg session at gym instead.
The person selling the house needing a management pack should approach the management company directly and request the release to their solicitor immediately. A fee will be payable before they release it.People above pushing for completion next Friday, exchange today/tomorrow after the bloke above took out a policy due to an argument over sewage outlet, which has been holding us up. All ready to go.
Contacted solicitor/estate agents to feed back to below about next Friday to see if that was acceptable. 2 hours later get a call back expecting a yes or no to be told the house below us.. it has just come to light that they need a management pack to sell it. it could take between 4-8 weeks to turn up and there's no ETA.
So as well as doing a 12 hour shift I've spent most of the day shouting at people.
Were number 3 in a chain of 5, number 5 has said no thanks and wants out now.
I'm switching from day shifts to nights tomorrow so usually a good opportunity to drown sorrows but I'm going to go smash out a big leg session at gym instead.
I had a similar delay - I figured that as they had received £3k out of me over 10 years the least they could do was pull their finger out!
After a couple of phone calls and a few emails back and forth it was all done and sorted within 45 minutes of me getting wind that this could cause a major delay to the transaction.
I have mentioned this numerous times throughout this thread.
Once again - anyone in a chain involving a 15 year or younger new build with the potential of a management company in the loop needs to highlight this at the start not the end.
Edited by The ArtfulBodger on Friday 21st May 19:52
The ArtfulBodger said:
The person selling the house needing a management pack should approach the management company directly and request the release to their solicitor immediately. A fee will be payable before they release it.
I had a similar delay - I figured that as they had received £3k out of me over 10 years the least they could do was pull their finger out!
After a couple of phone calls and a few emails back and forth it was all done and sorted within 45 minutes of me getting wind that this could cause a major delay to the transaction.
I have mentioned this numerous times throughout this thread.
Once again - anyone in a chain involving a 15 year or younger new build with the potential of a management company in the loop needs to highlight this at the start not the end.
Yep I've told the guy this several times now, he seems happy to just sit on it and let them produce it when they can. I had a similar delay - I figured that as they had received £3k out of me over 10 years the least they could do was pull their finger out!
After a couple of phone calls and a few emails back and forth it was all done and sorted within 45 minutes of me getting wind that this could cause a major delay to the transaction.
I have mentioned this numerous times throughout this thread.
Once again - anyone in a chain involving a 15 year or younger new build with the potential of a management company in the loop needs to highlight this at the start not the end.
Edited by The ArtfulBodger on Friday 21st May 19:52
At the moment the chain is just about holding together, fingers crossed it can proceed next week.
So followed this for a while, we were due to exchange today but the lower chain decided otherwise.
The story so far....in summary ( there are many more ups and downs but I’ll keep it short)
Dec 2020 accepted an offer on our house
We then had an offer accepted on new house.
Jan lose our buyer, manage to get another quickly who is further along in the process with a cash buyer for theirs.
Enquiries and most searches completed above and below, will we meet the stamp duty deadline of 30th March??
No, because we find out buyer had just sent off a lease extension to land registry. So it continues...
Pressure from above as they want to move as do we.
Buyers solicitors next to useless in terms of dealing with the lower chain as are their agents.....no news.
Our vendor have a deadline of 14th May as their mortgage offer will run out. Suddenly we find out that lease extension is not registered and we insist buyer expedites it. We also find out that their solicitor has 17 unanswered enquiries from their buyers to deal with from early March.
Vendor manages to secure a mortgage extension for 28th May....this is made explicit to all parties..we must move by then. Removals all booked up.
This week after all agents and solicitors including ours get on the case with buyers solicitors, the LR sort the lease extension out and enquiries are answered.
Today we need to exchange....told by lower chain solicitor that they won’t be able to as they won’t get it done but told to request funds. We do the same as well as others, who do with a view to exchange next week.
Buyers solicitors don’t answer the phone until a senior partner is contacted at 16:05 and gets on it to get funds.
Weirdly they then make 2 more enquiries to our solicitor.
Then at 16:45 we’re told that the bottom buyer doesn’t wasn’t to move on the 28th.
Everyone goes home and we sit here thinking wtf!
We are also selling an inherited house which has fallen through twice since Jan.
The story so far....in summary ( there are many more ups and downs but I’ll keep it short)
Dec 2020 accepted an offer on our house
We then had an offer accepted on new house.
Jan lose our buyer, manage to get another quickly who is further along in the process with a cash buyer for theirs.
Enquiries and most searches completed above and below, will we meet the stamp duty deadline of 30th March??
No, because we find out buyer had just sent off a lease extension to land registry. So it continues...
Pressure from above as they want to move as do we.
Buyers solicitors next to useless in terms of dealing with the lower chain as are their agents.....no news.
Our vendor have a deadline of 14th May as their mortgage offer will run out. Suddenly we find out that lease extension is not registered and we insist buyer expedites it. We also find out that their solicitor has 17 unanswered enquiries from their buyers to deal with from early March.
Vendor manages to secure a mortgage extension for 28th May....this is made explicit to all parties..we must move by then. Removals all booked up.
This week after all agents and solicitors including ours get on the case with buyers solicitors, the LR sort the lease extension out and enquiries are answered.
Today we need to exchange....told by lower chain solicitor that they won’t be able to as they won’t get it done but told to request funds. We do the same as well as others, who do with a view to exchange next week.
Buyers solicitors don’t answer the phone until a senior partner is contacted at 16:05 and gets on it to get funds.
Weirdly they then make 2 more enquiries to our solicitor.
Then at 16:45 we’re told that the bottom buyer doesn’t wasn’t to move on the 28th.
Everyone goes home and we sit here thinking wtf!
We are also selling an inherited house which has fallen through twice since Jan.
Edited by Simes205 on Friday 21st May 20:20
AJB88 said:
Yep I've told the guy this several times now, he seems happy to just sit on it and let them produce it when they can.
At the moment the chain is just about holding together, fingers crossed it can proceed next week.
That’s a bit carp then.At the moment the chain is just about holding together, fingers crossed it can proceed next week.
What possesses someone to behave like that? The success or failure of selling and purchasing what is likely your biggest asset left in the hands of someone with no skin in the game.
It’s not as if the management co loose a source of income - the next owner had to sign the deed of covenant so becomes responsible for paying the fee.
Fast Bug said:
We've been left all sorts of stuff as a parting gift from the previous owner. 1 car load to the tip done today, probably another 2 left to do to clear the rest of it. The worst was a child's mattress stuffed down the side of the shed that was absolutely foul 
Why do some people think this is acceptable? We called the previous owners up and asked them when they’d be collecting the stuff they’d left, including a pallet, old keyboard, rotten rabbit hutch, etc, etc and they did send someone round to collect it.
After that there was even more stuff, about 3 car loads we had to dump ourselves.
ooid said:
Solicitors should have included a clause in the sale contract “removing all rubbish and leaving the property in acceptable clean/condition”. A few left overs fine but anything more, I would not hesitate to get my solicitors to give them a call.
And what can they do about it? Genuinely interested if there’s any realistic recourse, or whether people just get away with it.Claude455 said:
And what can they do about it? Genuinely interested if there’s any realistic recourse, or whether people just get away with it.
I do not know any exact scenario but have seen one example; buyers demanded to visit the property two days before the exchange/completion. The property was not properly cleaned and garden was a total mess. The buyers literally said, if it’s not sorted as in the contract they would be pulling out. In my experience, just keep reminding them that clause until the completion day in writing and if still not in good condition than act with solicitor whatever they can recommend!PS: just checked with my solicitor friend, ages ago in a similar situation, they just contacted the seller. The seller sent a cheque with an apology note for the cleaning cost.
Edited by ooid on Sunday 23 May 18:03
Fast Bug said:
We've been left all sorts of stuff as a parting gift from the previous owner. 1 car load to the tip done today, probably another 2 left to do to clear the rest of it. The worst was a child's mattress stuffed down the side of the shed that was absolutely foul
Dirty b
ds. I could accept if they left an old classic in the garage but nothing else.We got the keys a day early to clean, it was horrific. Thick with dust, grime and god knows what else. Rubbish all over the floors, in the main bedroom there were those nose plasters to try and stop you snoring, used, stuck to the floor. Oh and used ear plugs as well.
I'd be ashamed to leave a house like that. We knew it wasn't going to be clean, the guy lives abroad now and paid someone to clear his furniture the week before and we guessed he was going to be too tight to pay for it to be cleaned. But we didn't think it was going to be that bad. Luckily my in laws offered to help as we wouldn't have Ben able to do it without them.
The guy has been such a nightmare throughout the whole process that I can't be arsed with dealing with him again to chase for some kind of compensation or clearance costs.
I'm just glad the whole thing is finally over. We're in, the kids love the house and it will be amazing when it's done
I'd be ashamed to leave a house like that. We knew it wasn't going to be clean, the guy lives abroad now and paid someone to clear his furniture the week before and we guessed he was going to be too tight to pay for it to be cleaned. But we didn't think it was going to be that bad. Luckily my in laws offered to help as we wouldn't have Ben able to do it without them.
The guy has been such a nightmare throughout the whole process that I can't be arsed with dealing with him again to chase for some kind of compensation or clearance costs.
I'm just glad the whole thing is finally over. We're in, the kids love the house and it will be amazing when it's done
We got an end-of-tenancy style cleaner in before we listed the house. We made it clear that, unless the buyer had specific requests, they were buying everything they saw.
That means the bike safe, helicopter chairs, the two metal sheds and the garden tools in them, the freezer and the washing machine. Everything else is gone. No one's said anything.
Better than my first flat - the sellers ripped the pink plastic toilet roll holder off the bathroom wall, and smashed three of the light bulbs in the kitchen (leaving one working one as per the legal minimum). They seemed surprised when our solicitor went after them for the damage.
That means the bike safe, helicopter chairs, the two metal sheds and the garden tools in them, the freezer and the washing machine. Everything else is gone. No one's said anything.
Better than my first flat - the sellers ripped the pink plastic toilet roll holder off the bathroom wall, and smashed three of the light bulbs in the kitchen (leaving one working one as per the legal minimum). They seemed surprised when our solicitor went after them for the damage.
Sporky said:
We got an end-of-tenancy style cleaner in before we listed the house. We made it clear that, unless the buyer had specific requests, they were buying everything they saw.
That means the bike safe, helicopter chairs, the two metal sheds and the garden tools in them, the freezer and the washing machine. Everything else is gone. No one's said anything.
Better than my first flat - the sellers ripped the pink plastic toilet roll holder off the bathroom wall, and smashed three of the light bulbs in the kitchen (leaving one working one as per the legal minimum). They seemed surprised when our solicitor went after them for the damage.
So would I be for 3 light bulbs and a bog roll holder!That means the bike safe, helicopter chairs, the two metal sheds and the garden tools in them, the freezer and the washing machine. Everything else is gone. No one's said anything.
Better than my first flat - the sellers ripped the pink plastic toilet roll holder off the bathroom wall, and smashed three of the light bulbs in the kitchen (leaving one working one as per the legal minimum). They seemed surprised when our solicitor went after them for the damage.
Fast Bug said:
We've been left all sorts of stuff as a parting gift from the previous owner. 1 car load to the tip done today, probably another 2 left to do to clear the rest of it. The worst was a child's mattress stuffed down the side of the shed that was absolutely foul
My vendor has offered my the contents of the garage, full of wood etc.If I say no, I'll miss out on useful stuff.
If I say yes, I'll end up with a bunch of rubbish I have to pay to get rid of
They also need another month before they could exchange to allow time to clean... shame they couldn't of done that 3 months ago when they accepted our offer, especially as they don't even live there.
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