Is anyone moving now?

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anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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C70R said:
DanL said:
As nice as it is, I’m not sure anyone needing a zone one flat will be moving to Wales…
Or indeed anyone who wants to go anywhere nice in a hurry.
Anywhere nice? That’s very subjective. The thought of living in an area with inflated house prices, even larger inflated egos, roads crammed with traffic, 1h+ commutes and using public transport is not my idea of ‘nice’.

You stick to your 2 bed flat, sharing a building, no thanks, I stopped that at 21 when I bought my first house.

You can be on the Llyn Peninsula within 1 hour(ish), Chester / Manchester / Liverpool (airport) are around 1 hour.

Kingston (I think), the area itself is OK, easy A55 access.

Holywell itself isn’t very nice, there are some large estates near to the town itself, without looking at the map I’d suggest this is sufficient distance.

House prices have gone up a fair bit, it seems an influx to be honest as within my peer group not many seem to be moving currently.

I know of at least one friend who was in a bidding war with 4 London based families (and two local) for a similar house (albeit a tad more expensive yet just on the English side of the border by Chester).

The state schools here are getting better, certainly the one I attended has improved massively, in terms of Public you have Ruthin and Kings (Chester).




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Edited by Lord.Vader on Thursday 8th July 13:54

kingston12

5,487 posts

158 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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talksthetorque said:
With the point about maintenance, I reckon 10k a year for something like that is a healthy budget for upkeep in the manner to which they will become accustomed. What would the service charge be on a studio in Z1?
It's more the hassle of getting decent trades in who now how to properly maintain that type of house.The service charge in a z1 flat might even work out more expensive, but you'd have everything done for you.

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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Lord.Vader said:
C70R said:
DanL said:
As nice as it is, I’m not sure anyone needing a zone one flat will be moving to Wales…
Or indeed anyone who wants to go anywhere nice in a hurry.
Anywhere nice? That’s very subjective. The thought of living in an area with inflated house prices, even larger inflated egos, roads crammed with traffic, 1h+ commutes and using public transport is not my idea of ‘nice’.

You stick to your 2 bed flat, sharing a building, no thanks, I stopped that at 21 when I bought my first house.

You can be on the Llyn Peninsula within 1 hour(ish), Chester / Manchester / Liverpool (airport) are around 1 hour.

Kingston (I think), the area itself is OK, easy A55 access.

Holywell itself isn’t very nice, there are some large estates near to the town itself, without looking at the map I’d suggest this is sufficient distance.

House prices have gone up a fair bit, it seems an influx to be honest as within my peer group not many seem to be moving currently.

I know of at least one friend who was in a bidding war with 4 London based families (and two local) for a similar house (albeit a tad more expensive yet just on the English side of the border by Chester).

The state schools here are getting better, certainly the one I attended has improved massively, in terms of Public you have Ruthin and Kings (Chester).




Edited by Lord.Vader on Thursday 8th July 13:53


Edited by Lord.Vader on Thursday 8th July 13:54
Thanks for that ramble.

I know the area well. It's dull as dishwater.

And that's from a Londoner who's actively trying to buy a property in the countryside.

Blown2CV

28,863 posts

204 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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i'd still rather live there than Abersoch.

Petrus1983

8,759 posts

163 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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A large majority of my work is London based - I took a risk moving as far as Bath but found it quite acceptable - now after last year I’ve realised I can risk it further.... and move to Wales. Only time will tell - but I’m looking forwards to it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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C70R said:
Thanks for that ramble.

I know the area well. It's dull as dishwater.

And that's from a Londoner who's actively trying to buy a property in the countryside.
You’re welcome, but it was for Kingston12 in answer to his question, you aren’t the centre of everything you realise?

Anyone I’m off to relax in the countryside, can still feel the smog from the weekend in Kensington.


C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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Lord.Vader said:
C70R said:
Thanks for that ramble.

I know the area well. It's dull as dishwater.

And that's from a Londoner who's actively trying to buy a property in the countryside.
You’re welcome, but it was for Kingston12 in answer to his question, you aren’t the centre of everything you realise?

Anyone I’m off to relax in the countryside, can still feel the smog from the weekend in Kensington.
You quoted and replied to me...

Frik

13,542 posts

244 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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C70R said:
Really?

That's two-bed flat territory in my nice bit of SW London.
Then your bit is nicer than my bit. The smaller 3 bed terraces are around that here. We just sold a two bed for slightly less.

mrbikerdood

66 posts

91 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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Today we exchanged @ 5.10pm - keys @ 11.30pm - journey started January- sellers conveyancing solicitor incompetent which caused £14k stamp duty - spelling mistakes in the sell of the house etc and if it wasn't for my wife being a finance director of a solicitors company we would have pulled out,sellers are going to sue thier conveyancing solicitor, we are the 4th buyer over 3 yrs,rest pulled out as she was so rude etc - luckily we factered in stamp duty,after 3 false completion dates we finally made it ..... stress levels higher than normal,alcohol drunk more than usual!!

Petrus1983

8,759 posts

163 months

Thursday 8th July 2021
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mrbikerdood said:
Today we exchanged @ 5.10pm - keys @ 11.30pm - journey started January- sellers conveyancing solicitor incompetent which caused £14k stamp duty - spelling mistakes in the sell of the house etc and if it wasn't for my wife being a finance director of a solicitors company we would have pulled out,sellers are going to sue thier conveyancing solicitor, we are the 4th buyer over 3 yrs,rest pulled out as she was so rude etc - luckily we factered in stamp duty,after 3 false completion dates we finally made it ..... stress levels higher than normal,alcohol drunk more than usual!!
Wow - congrats on finally moving!

Mr Whippy

29,064 posts

242 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Petrus1983 said:
A large majority of my work is London based - I took a risk moving as far as Bath but found it quite acceptable - now after last year I’ve realised I can risk it further.... and move to Wales. Only time will tell - but I’m looking forwards to it.
Bath is pretty lovely.

I’ll admit there are some nice places in Wales... but nothing with that bath vibe in my experience.

Good luck with the next hop out into the countryside.



I grew up on rural farms but always within 15 min of an airport and 25-30 mins of large town/cities.
Those idyllic villages located like that cost a fortune though... from the late 80s and 90s exodus of well paid professionals from cities to rural areas.

I currently live in a small town (feels like a village) and it feels like the frontier to the Yorkshire Dales National Park, and it’s still only 25 mins to the local popular large town (Harrogate)... and it can get painful with needing anything beyond the local basics.

Definitely think long and hard about getting too far out into nowhere *and* paying a high price now... as classically these places were cheap because they’re nowhere.
If you change your mind and the market turns...

Sycamore

1,796 posts

119 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Lord.Vader said:
C70R said:
Thanks for that ramble.

I know the area well. It's dull as dishwater.

And that's from a Londoner who's actively trying to buy a property in the countryside.
You’re welcome, but it was for Kingston12 in answer to his question, you aren’t the centre of everything you realise?

Anyone I’m off to relax in the countryside, can still feel the smog from the weekend in Kensington.
What a weird post hehe

Petrus1983

8,759 posts

163 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Mr Whippy said:
Bath is pretty lovely.

I’ll admit there are some nice places in Wales... but nothing with that bath vibe in my experience.
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The move would occur if some quite strict criteria was met (good seaview, off road parking and garage) - and in budget.

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Petrus1983 said:
Mr Whippy said:
Bath is pretty lovely.

I’ll admit there are some nice places in Wales... but nothing with that bath vibe in my experience.
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The move would occur if some quite strict criteria was met (good seaview, off road parking and garage) - and in budget.
Agree with Whippy here.

As someone who grew up in Wales, I think you'll struggle to find anywhere that has a similar vibe to Bath.

Welsh large towns and cities are, by and large, somewhere between terrible and bang average.

Parts of Cardiff are OK, but it's really not close to Bath. Heading West out of Swansea might get you something with the things you're looking for (if not the people/vibe), but Swansea is a pretty rubbish city and you'd be a long way from anything that isn't in Wales.

I'd think long and hard about that one.

Petrus1983

8,759 posts

163 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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I’m looking in Mumbles - any opinions on the place (good and bad) are welcome.

LooneyTunes

6,868 posts

159 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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Mr Whippy said:
Definitely think long and hard about getting too far out into nowhere *and* paying a high price now... as classically these places were cheap because they’re nowhere.
If you change your mind and the market turns...
...or if you have kids. People often like to talk about living in places that are nice for children to grow up in. Often the same places that have quite limited opportunities for them once they have grown up and need to find work.

Petrus1983

8,759 posts

163 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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LooneyTunes said:
...or if you have kids. People often like to talk about living in places that are nice for children to grow up in. Often the same places that have quite limited opportunities for them once they have grown up and need to find work.
This is a really good point. My father grew up in a tiny village and hated it - I grew up within striking distance of Winchester and it was totally fine. My situation allows me to not worry about such things so can be selfish in that regard.

ClaphamGT3

11,305 posts

244 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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LooneyTunes said:
Mr Whippy said:
Definitely think long and hard about getting too far out into nowhere *and* paying a high price now... as classically these places were cheap because they’re nowhere.
If you change your mind and the market turns...
...or if you have kids. People often like to talk about living in places that are nice for children to grow up in. Often the same places that have quite limited opportunities for them once they have grown up and need to find work.
This is very true - if you really want the best quality of life for your children, bring them up in a large city

SweptVolume

1,091 posts

94 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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ClaphamGT3 said:
LooneyTunes said:
Mr Whippy said:
Definitely think long and hard about getting too far out into nowhere *and* paying a high price now... as classically these places were cheap because they’re nowhere.
If you change your mind and the market turns...
...or if you have kids. People often like to talk about living in places that are nice for children to grow up in. Often the same places that have quite limited opportunities for them once they have grown up and need to find work.
This is very true - if you really want the best quality of life for your children, bring them up in a large city
laugh

Teenagers will hate you if you live too far from their mates but as long as they have people to hang out with, they won't care. It's not like they can really sneak into clubs anymore like the old days. Expect to give them lifts everywhere, though.

But it's absolutely the normal course for children to go to university and then move to a big city in search of work. The alternative is the 30 year old who still lives with mummy because she's a soft touch with a large house in Zone 4 and they don't want to live in a flat. Those people are the worst.

ClaphamGT3

11,305 posts

244 months

Friday 9th July 2021
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SweptVolume said:
laugh

Teenagers will hate you if you live too far from their mates but as long as they have people to hang out with, they won't care. It's not like they can really sneak into clubs anymore like the old days. Expect to give them lifts everywhere, though.

But it's absolutely the normal course for children to go to university and then move to a big city in search of work. The alternative is the 30 year old who still lives with mummy because she's a soft touch with a large house in Zone 4 and they don't want to live in a flat. Those people are the worst.
Zone 4 is the countryside...

Having been brought up partly in rural Norfolk and partly in London, or other capital cities, the city was much preferable as a child