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C70R said:
Flooble said:
leef44 said:
In Surrey, Zoopla may give a more comprehensive search than Rightmove.
I always assumed every agent used both as a matter of course!Can anyone disprove this?
https://gordanoproperty.co.uk/
SunsetZed said:
C70R said:
Flooble said:
leef44 said:
In Surrey, Zoopla may give a more comprehensive search than Rightmove.
I always assumed every agent used both as a matter of course!Can anyone disprove this?
https://gordanoproperty.co.uk/
davidc1 said:
Signed with an estate agent on tuesday of last week. They wanted to do the photos and 3d tour next wed. So 8 day hence. I cant do this date and we settled on this coming fri. So 10 days to get a photographer round.
Thia all seems v tardy and slow ? What do you guys think.
Idont want to piss my vendor off who is with the same estate agent.- this is the reason i went with them so were invested in2 sale and would push things along better.....
how did you manage to get an offer accepted on a house to buy if yours wasn't even on the market, but seems to need to be sold in order to complete the purchase? Thia all seems v tardy and slow ? What do you guys think.
Idont want to piss my vendor off who is with the same estate agent.- this is the reason i went with them so were invested in2 sale and would push things along better.....
Blown2CV said:
davidc1 said:
Signed with an estate agent on tuesday of last week. They wanted to do the photos and 3d tour next wed. So 8 day hence. I cant do this date and we settled on this coming fri. So 10 days to get a photographer round.
Thia all seems v tardy and slow ? What do you guys think.
Idont want to piss my vendor off who is with the same estate agent.- this is the reason i went with them so were invested in2 sale and would push things along better.....
how did you manage to get an offer accepted on a house to buy if yours wasn't even on the market, but seems to need to be sold in order to complete the purchase? Thia all seems v tardy and slow ? What do you guys think.
Idont want to piss my vendor off who is with the same estate agent.- this is the reason i went with them so were invested in2 sale and would push things along better.....
I did the deal without his estste agent. Simply knocked on his door looked him in the eye and shook hands!
I then conviced him i am in a v good position to buy and offered him the asking price. No quibble.
So yep i appreciate his trust in me . I should be able to sell my house easily. That is the big tick i need to get in the box.
Then we go from there!
davidc1 said:
Blown2CV said:
davidc1 said:
Signed with an estate agent on tuesday of last week. They wanted to do the photos and 3d tour next wed. So 8 day hence. I cant do this date and we settled on this coming fri. So 10 days to get a photographer round.
Thia all seems v tardy and slow ? What do you guys think.
Idont want to piss my vendor off who is with the same estate agent.- this is the reason i went with them so were invested in2 sale and would push things along better.....
how did you manage to get an offer accepted on a house to buy if yours wasn't even on the market, but seems to need to be sold in order to complete the purchase? Thia all seems v tardy and slow ? What do you guys think.
Idont want to piss my vendor off who is with the same estate agent.- this is the reason i went with them so were invested in2 sale and would push things along better.....
I did the deal without his estste agent. Simply knocked on his door looked him in the eye and shook hands!
I then conviced him i am in a v good position to buy and offered him the asking price. No quibble.
So yep i appreciate his trust in me . I should be able to sell my house easily. That is the big tick i need to get in the box.
Then we go from there!
fesuvious said:
25 years ago,
You'd know you hoped you had (and likely did have) a professional in the Estate Agent.
You knew you were instructing a highly educated professional in the form of a solicitor.
Then, the iffy bit might be the blokes that'd turn up to move you.
Now,
EA's broadly haven't changed.
Movers have become way more professional.
Solicitors, and now 'conveyancers' are woeful. The service level is through the floor. Even if you do find a good one. You'll be stuffed by the others in the chain.
There's absolutely no method of holding them to account.
For example… [rant edited down to save on quote!] .
I think the issue is that the conveyancing service has been commoditised. Solicitors are usually on a fixed fee and don’t want to spend time on potentially abortive pursuits. It’s therefore difficult to hurry them along until they see that everything is in place and unlikely to fall through, and work tends to get delegated to less experienced or less qualified people. It’s also not exactly cutting edge stuff so doesn’t tend to attract the best of the profession. Not saying it’s right, but to some extent you’re probably getting the standard of service you paid for.. if you engaged them on an hourly fee basis you might get improved responsiveness!You'd know you hoped you had (and likely did have) a professional in the Estate Agent.
You knew you were instructing a highly educated professional in the form of a solicitor.
Then, the iffy bit might be the blokes that'd turn up to move you.
Now,
EA's broadly haven't changed.
Movers have become way more professional.
Solicitors, and now 'conveyancers' are woeful. The service level is through the floor. Even if you do find a good one. You'll be stuffed by the others in the chain.
There's absolutely no method of holding them to account.
For example… [rant edited down to save on quote!] .
Edited by johnnyBv8 on Monday 23 August 08:37
fesuvious said:
25 years ago,
You'd know you hoped you had (and likely did have) a professional in the Estate Agent.
You knew you were instructing a highly educated professional in the form of a solicitor.
Then, the iffy bit might be the blokes that'd turn up to move you.
Now,
EA's broadly haven't changed.
Movers have become way more professional.
Solicitors, and now 'conveyancers' are woeful. The service level is through the floor. Even if you do find a good one. You'll be stuffed by the others in the chain.
There's absolutely no method of holding them to account.
For example,
If your buyers solicitor doesn't send you funds until 4:30pm and as a result you can't complete that day. You cannot make any sort of official complaint against them. You're not their client.
If you do want to complain about your own then you have to travel through their internal complaints procedure first. Only then can the SRA get involved.
But, see above. The really big stuff you'll want to complain about likely will be in part or all down to not your solicitor.
And this is if you're actually using a solicitor!
If it's a conveyancer....then what then? Maybe they'll be a member of the SLC, or CA or BLG but these are just 'associations'. They have no real clout.
Again, it's an internal complaints procedure you have to travel through. Slowly.
And they all know that after months of stress, angst and frustration you'll be too worn down to it.
If a f
king free for all of st service, lack of care, lack of empathy and cheap lowly educated numpties.
Yet Gov takes its advice from the top bods at the association's and Law Society. All of whom either have vested interests to keep it as it is or just dislike each other and won't help with change that sees them work closely.
It's a gross travesty for the public.
Totally agree with this. Also the English method of house purchasing is retarded. The Scottish method is much better.You'd know you hoped you had (and likely did have) a professional in the Estate Agent.
You knew you were instructing a highly educated professional in the form of a solicitor.
Then, the iffy bit might be the blokes that'd turn up to move you.
Now,
EA's broadly haven't changed.
Movers have become way more professional.
Solicitors, and now 'conveyancers' are woeful. The service level is through the floor. Even if you do find a good one. You'll be stuffed by the others in the chain.
There's absolutely no method of holding them to account.
For example,
If your buyers solicitor doesn't send you funds until 4:30pm and as a result you can't complete that day. You cannot make any sort of official complaint against them. You're not their client.
If you do want to complain about your own then you have to travel through their internal complaints procedure first. Only then can the SRA get involved.
But, see above. The really big stuff you'll want to complain about likely will be in part or all down to not your solicitor.
And this is if you're actually using a solicitor!
If it's a conveyancer....then what then? Maybe they'll be a member of the SLC, or CA or BLG but these are just 'associations'. They have no real clout.
Again, it's an internal complaints procedure you have to travel through. Slowly.
And they all know that after months of stress, angst and frustration you'll be too worn down to it.
If a f
king free for all of st service, lack of care, lack of empathy and cheap lowly educated numpties.Yet Gov takes its advice from the top bods at the association's and Law Society. All of whom either have vested interests to keep it as it is or just dislike each other and won't help with change that sees them work closely.
It's a gross travesty for the public.
I accepted an offer on my house in May, absolutely zero chain. I am still twiddling my thumbs. Went over there last week to find the boiler was borked. Thankfully a £90 refurbed PCB fixed the issue, but owning/maintaining two properties is rather annoying!
Rob_125 said:
fesuvious said:
25 years ago,
You'd know you hoped you had (and likely did have) a professional in the Estate Agent.
You knew you were instructing a highly educated professional in the form of a solicitor.
Then, the iffy bit might be the blokes that'd turn up to move you.
Now,
EA's broadly haven't changed.
Movers have become way more professional.
Solicitors, and now 'conveyancers' are woeful. The service level is through the floor. Even if you do find a good one. You'll be stuffed by the others in the chain.
There's absolutely no method of holding them to account.
For example,
If your buyers solicitor doesn't send you funds until 4:30pm and as a result you can't complete that day. You cannot make any sort of official complaint against them. You're not their client.
If you do want to complain about your own then you have to travel through their internal complaints procedure first. Only then can the SRA get involved.
But, see above. The really big stuff you'll want to complain about likely will be in part or all down to not your solicitor.
And this is if you're actually using a solicitor!
If it's a conveyancer....then what then? Maybe they'll be a member of the SLC, or CA or BLG but these are just 'associations'. They have no real clout.
Again, it's an internal complaints procedure you have to travel through. Slowly.
And they all know that after months of stress, angst and frustration you'll be too worn down to it.
If a fking free for all of st service, lack of care, lack of empathy and cheap lowly educated numpties.
Yet Gov takes its advice from the top bods at the association's and Law Society. All of whom either have vested interests to keep it as it is or just dislike each other and won't help with change that sees them work closely.
It's a gross travesty for the public.
Totally agree with this. Also the English method of house purchasing is retarded. The Scottish method is much better.You'd know you hoped you had (and likely did have) a professional in the Estate Agent.
You knew you were instructing a highly educated professional in the form of a solicitor.
Then, the iffy bit might be the blokes that'd turn up to move you.
Now,
EA's broadly haven't changed.
Movers have become way more professional.
Solicitors, and now 'conveyancers' are woeful. The service level is through the floor. Even if you do find a good one. You'll be stuffed by the others in the chain.
There's absolutely no method of holding them to account.
For example,
If your buyers solicitor doesn't send you funds until 4:30pm and as a result you can't complete that day. You cannot make any sort of official complaint against them. You're not their client.
If you do want to complain about your own then you have to travel through their internal complaints procedure first. Only then can the SRA get involved.
But, see above. The really big stuff you'll want to complain about likely will be in part or all down to not your solicitor.
And this is if you're actually using a solicitor!
If it's a conveyancer....then what then? Maybe they'll be a member of the SLC, or CA or BLG but these are just 'associations'. They have no real clout.
Again, it's an internal complaints procedure you have to travel through. Slowly.
And they all know that after months of stress, angst and frustration you'll be too worn down to it.
If a f
king free for all of st service, lack of care, lack of empathy and cheap lowly educated numpties.Yet Gov takes its advice from the top bods at the association's and Law Society. All of whom either have vested interests to keep it as it is or just dislike each other and won't help with change that sees them work closely.
It's a gross travesty for the public.
I accepted an offer on my house in May, absolutely zero chain. I am still twiddling my thumbs. Went over there last week to find the boiler was borked. Thankfully a £90 refurbed PCB fixed the issue, but owning/maintaining two properties is rather annoying!
Rob_125 said:
Totally agree with this. Also the English method of house purchasing is retarded. The Scottish method is much better
I’m not sure there’s that much between the two systems now. The main difference is that gazumping is very rare in Scotland - it’s not actually prohibited, but offers need to be submitted via a solicitor, and there’s an expectation between solicitors (but nothing more than this) that gazumping isn’t entertained. There’s nothing legally binding between offer acceptance and the contracts being concluded (missives), and contracts can run to the wire. I’m not aware of any other significant differences. As an example, we sold a property in Scotland earlier in the year where the contract was only concluded the afternoon before completion. We also had a buyer that pulled out after 7 weeks, as they couldn’t get their mortgage. We had another property sale fall through in Scotland due to a break in the chain - the people purchasing our buyer’s house pulled out….sounds like chains are a bigger problem in England, but it does happen in Scotland too.
The buying process in Scotland whereby “sealed bids” are submitted at a closing date is a difficult system for buyers and perpetuates price rises (e.g. someone pays way over the odds to make sure they get a house at closing date, and this in turn drives expectations of nearby valuations). Sounds like this is increasingly common elsewhere in the UK too.
Edited by johnnyBv8 on Monday 23 August 10:07
TCruise said:
Well ours is going a bit wrong at the moment.
Today is completion day.
Our Seller is a hoarder. The we are buying is house is full of rubbish, I. E. Her belongings.
We pushed and pushed for completion earlier than Stamp Duty Deadline Day, the Seller refused.
Now, unsurprisingly, the Seller is struggling to get out in time. The Seller is saying hopefully 4pm
We currently have two massive lorries full of stuff and 6 removal men sat waiting. We'll soon start paying for this additional wait time.
We are still expecting to complete today.
We are asking for a certain amount of cash to be held back to deal with removal of the Seller's stuff.
This is yet to be agreed.
We do not know if the house will be empty enough for us to actually get our stuff in.
Its quite a mess. It's a little stressful. It shouldn't be how this day should go.
But, currently, we are sat on our hands, money is going out the window and
- we don't know what time we'll get keys
- we don't know how much stuff will be left I the hiuse
- we don't know if so much stuff will be left that we won't be able to move in our own stuff.
- we have an army of cleaners tomorrow ready to clean the renovation hole we are moving in to, we don't know if that will be money down the drain as there will be too much stuff to clean.
A lot of uncertainty
Today is completion day.
Our Seller is a hoarder. The we are buying is house is full of rubbish, I. E. Her belongings.
We pushed and pushed for completion earlier than Stamp Duty Deadline Day, the Seller refused.
Now, unsurprisingly, the Seller is struggling to get out in time. The Seller is saying hopefully 4pm
We currently have two massive lorries full of stuff and 6 removal men sat waiting. We'll soon start paying for this additional wait time.
We are still expecting to complete today.
We are asking for a certain amount of cash to be held back to deal with removal of the Seller's stuff.
This is yet to be agreed.
We do not know if the house will be empty enough for us to actually get our stuff in.
Its quite a mess. It's a little stressful. It shouldn't be how this day should go.
But, currently, we are sat on our hands, money is going out the window and
- we don't know what time we'll get keys
- we don't know how much stuff will be left I the hiuse
- we don't know if so much stuff will be left that we won't be able to move in our own stuff.
- we have an army of cleaners tomorrow ready to clean the renovation hole we are moving in to, we don't know if that will be money down the drain as there will be too much stuff to clean.
A lot of uncertainty
Petrus1983 said:
dirtbiker said:
TCruise said:
Well ours is going a bit wrong at the moment.
Argh, this is the stuff of nightmares! Hope that it all comes good for you without any additional stress!Blown2CV said:
you'll have clauses in the contract surrounding missed deadlines and so on
Thought I'd finish this story off. I had not before as we only today resolved things legally. It got worse once we finally got the keys and entered the house. The house was left as if it was a Squat. Stuff strewn everywhere. Odd shoes. Rubbish. Items they just didn't want. On the floor, stairs, everywhere.
Also, kitchen cupboards full of gone off and rotten food.
To add to it, fixtures had been removed that were present on Exchange. Further damage had been caused in removing them.
The place was also filthy, we knew it wouldn't be clean, but I honestly doubt if it had been cleaned in 5+ years. Seriously.
It's taken a long time to sort out and recover our losses caused by the Seller's poor behaviour and abysmal actions. We presented a lot of evidence. We probably should have gone to court, we could have maybe got a little bit more money, but mainly to watch the Seller drain their bank account on Legal fees and to teach them a lesson.
But, I honestly could not stand dealing with a person who lies as if its normal and who thinks everyone else is wrong. Even the Seller's own lawyers were tired of representing them.
We therefore settled out of court for a reasonable figure.
The Seller really was an awful person to buy a house from and an awful person in general.
In case you are thinking this is a horrid home in a rundown area, it is not. The house is well into seven figures. The area is affluent and upmarket. It is amazing how some people live and behave.
I sincerely hope that the Seller is out of our lives, forever.
Now starts the refurb and building work!
fesuvious said:
25 years ago,
You'd know you hoped you had (and likely did have) a professional in the Estate Agent.
You knew you were instructing a highly educated professional in the form of a solicitor.
Then, the iffy bit might be the blokes that'd turn up to move you.
Now,
EA's broadly haven't changed.
Movers have become way more professional.
Solicitors, and now 'conveyancers' are woeful. The service level is through the floor. Even if you do find a good one. You'll be stuffed by the others in the chain.
There's absolutely no method of holding them to account.
For example,
If your buyers solicitor doesn't send you funds until 4:30pm and as a result you can't complete that day. You cannot make any sort of official complaint against them. You're not their client.
If you do want to complain about your own then you have to travel through their internal complaints procedure first. Only then can the SRA get involved.
But, see above. The really big stuff you'll want to complain about likely will be in part or all down to not your solicitor.
And this is if you're actually using a solicitor!
If it's a conveyancer....then what then? Maybe they'll be a member of the SLC, or CA or BLG but these are just 'associations'. They have no real clout.
Again, it's an internal complaints procedure you have to travel through. Slowly.
And they all know that after months of stress, angst and frustration you'll be too worn down to it.
If a fking free for all of st service, lack of care, lack of empathy and cheap lowly educated numpties.
Yet Gov takes its advice from the top bods at the association's and Law Society. All of whom either have vested interests to keep it as it is or just dislike each other and won't help with change that sees them work closely.
It's a gross travesty for the public.
Does seem to be. The service we are getting is frankly appalling, but they know that the upheaval involved in changing conveyancer is too big for anyone to bother with.You'd know you hoped you had (and likely did have) a professional in the Estate Agent.
You knew you were instructing a highly educated professional in the form of a solicitor.
Then, the iffy bit might be the blokes that'd turn up to move you.
Now,
EA's broadly haven't changed.
Movers have become way more professional.
Solicitors, and now 'conveyancers' are woeful. The service level is through the floor. Even if you do find a good one. You'll be stuffed by the others in the chain.
There's absolutely no method of holding them to account.
For example,
If your buyers solicitor doesn't send you funds until 4:30pm and as a result you can't complete that day. You cannot make any sort of official complaint against them. You're not their client.
If you do want to complain about your own then you have to travel through their internal complaints procedure first. Only then can the SRA get involved.
But, see above. The really big stuff you'll want to complain about likely will be in part or all down to not your solicitor.
And this is if you're actually using a solicitor!
If it's a conveyancer....then what then? Maybe they'll be a member of the SLC, or CA or BLG but these are just 'associations'. They have no real clout.
Again, it's an internal complaints procedure you have to travel through. Slowly.
And they all know that after months of stress, angst and frustration you'll be too worn down to it.
If a f
king free for all of st service, lack of care, lack of empathy and cheap lowly educated numpties.Yet Gov takes its advice from the top bods at the association's and Law Society. All of whom either have vested interests to keep it as it is or just dislike each other and won't help with change that sees them work closely.
It's a gross travesty for the public.
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