Is anyone moving now?
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The property that we are moving into is vacant and unfurnished as the old dear moved into a nursing home in October. My wife is scrubbing all surfaces, kids will be locked away on the friday and bundled into the back of the car. Everything else will be scrubbed when we move in again.
Removers will have to wash hands every 30 minutes or so, not too sure what else I can do.
Removers will have to wash hands every 30 minutes or so, not too sure what else I can do.
I'm in the process too. Offer accepted on one and on mine. I'm progressing and so is the seller as they are moving into an empty house. I'm really worried ahoy my buyers (first timers) as they have been nothing but slow. Been 3 weeks with radio silence and the EA not wanting to pressure them because of the situation but I'm wanting to move still and so do you Sellers of our new house just clueless first timers worrying me massively!
Need to see if my removal company will move us still though. Gotta be in before end of June as mortgage is up then!
Need to see if my removal company will move us still though. Gotta be in before end of June as mortgage is up then!
richatnort said:
I'm in the process too. Offer accepted on one and on mine. I'm progressing and so is the seller as they are moving into an empty house. I'm really worried ahoy my buyers (first timers) as they have been nothing but slow. Been 3 weeks with radio silence and the EA not wanting to pressure them because of the situation but I'm wanting to move still and so do you Sellers of our new house just clueless first timers worrying me massively!
Need to see if my removal company will move us still though. Gotta be in before end of June as mortgage is up then!
Clueless or clued up? Who would want to exchange in present climate. I wouldn't (sadly already have!).Need to see if my removal company will move us still though. Gotta be in before end of June as mortgage is up then!
I’m supposed to be moving on Friday into a vacant property. As far as I know it is going ahead but communication with my solicitor these past couple of days hasn’t been great.
My main problem is my removal guy is, understandably, ready to call it off. Think he’s being polite and waiting for me to tell him it’s ok for him to not do the job considering everything that’s going on. I’ll let him off the hook tomorrow and be left to shift everything myself. I’ll be ok with everything apart from a large dining room cabinet and two double mattresses.
I have a friend with a van who has offered to help me but there’s no way I’m taking him up on his offer because he has asthma and I’m a key worker exposed to all sorts every day. Worst that can happen is I have to come to an agreement with the buyers and see if they’ll store the bits I can’t move until the lockdown is lifted.
Stress levels are through the roof but these are still trivial worries compared to what a lot of people are going through right now.
My main problem is my removal guy is, understandably, ready to call it off. Think he’s being polite and waiting for me to tell him it’s ok for him to not do the job considering everything that’s going on. I’ll let him off the hook tomorrow and be left to shift everything myself. I’ll be ok with everything apart from a large dining room cabinet and two double mattresses.
I have a friend with a van who has offered to help me but there’s no way I’m taking him up on his offer because he has asthma and I’m a key worker exposed to all sorts every day. Worst that can happen is I have to come to an agreement with the buyers and see if they’ll store the bits I can’t move until the lockdown is lifted.
Stress levels are through the roof but these are still trivial worries compared to what a lot of people are going through right now.
https://www.lawsociety.org.uk/support-services/adv...
Updated guidance.
In short - if you have exchanged and not completed, you are in a tricky situation ...
Updated guidance.
In short - if you have exchanged and not completed, you are in a tricky situation ...
SkemJazzer said:
I’m supposed to be moving on Friday into a vacant property. As far as I know it is going ahead but communication with my solicitor these past couple of days hasn’t been great.
My main problem is my removal guy is, understandably, ready to call it off. Think he’s being polite and waiting for me to tell him it’s ok for him to not do the job considering everything that’s going on. I’ll let him off the hook tomorrow and be left to shift everything myself. I’ll be ok with everything apart from a large dining room cabinet and two double mattresses.
I have a friend with a van who has offered to help me but there’s no way I’m taking him up on his offer because he has asthma and I’m a key worker exposed to all sorts every day. Worst that can happen is I have to come to an agreement with the buyers and see if they’ll store the bits I can’t move until the lockdown is lifted.
Stress levels are through the roof but these are still trivial worries compared to what a lot of people are going through right now.
Have you tried Anyvan.com, they are still taking bookings.My main problem is my removal guy is, understandably, ready to call it off. Think he’s being polite and waiting for me to tell him it’s ok for him to not do the job considering everything that’s going on. I’ll let him off the hook tomorrow and be left to shift everything myself. I’ll be ok with everything apart from a large dining room cabinet and two double mattresses.
I have a friend with a van who has offered to help me but there’s no way I’m taking him up on his offer because he has asthma and I’m a key worker exposed to all sorts every day. Worst that can happen is I have to come to an agreement with the buyers and see if they’ll store the bits I can’t move until the lockdown is lifted.
Stress levels are through the roof but these are still trivial worries compared to what a lot of people are going through right now.
Im moving today, just had confirmation, they are on their way from Birmingham down to me in Bristol.
156651 said:
I suggest you do some more reading. The principal method of transmission is droplets in the air. It may transmit through surfaces, but exactly how commonly is unknown, and how long it stays in the surface and remains viable is unknown. It is lower risk hence why, for example, non-essential package deliveries are not banned. I never said it was no risk, but it is not something to be terrified of in a home that only had one family in it.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/...
Person-to-person spread
The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.
* Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
* Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
* These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.
Spread from contact with contaminated surfaces or objects
It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.
Emphasis my own.
\https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prepare/...
Person-to-person spread
The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.
* Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
* Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
* These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.
Spread from contact with contaminated surfaces or objects
It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes, but this is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads.
Emphasis my own.
Correct. So this is the thing. It may be spread through the virus being on surfaces.
It's up to everyone to balance the risk. Touch a surface that could be infected, then touch your mouth / nose / eyes and you ould then be infected.
This is one of the reasons removal companies are not able to carry out their work.
We're buying a new build and were due to hopefully move in end of May. Our buyer was initially happy to wait until our house was ready (ours is complete but we can't move in until next door is complete and that is only at foundation stage last time we went up for a look.
Buyer now wants a fixed completion date which is difficult because we have no idea if things are going to be delayed with the virus. By all accounts I hear redrow are still building which I was shocked at but who knows. If we agree a date and they're not ready we are a bit stuffed as we would have moved into in laws temporarily but they're on 12 week isolation due to mother in law's asthma.
Buyer now wants a fixed completion date which is difficult because we have no idea if things are going to be delayed with the virus. By all accounts I hear redrow are still building which I was shocked at but who knows. If we agree a date and they're not ready we are a bit stuffed as we would have moved into in laws temporarily but they're on 12 week isolation due to mother in law's asthma.
I am due to complete on the 30th. I have sent the final stamp duty, fees and the lot to the solicitor and they are saying it's "business as usual" for them.
However, we are moving into a new build and I haven't been able to get a hold of the developer for 3 days now. There are a number of questions arising such as how I physically collect the keys, how will snagging work given I can't move in now (removal services cancelled as are flooring company).
I have also been told that apparently the land registry in Scotland has closed to new entries. This is what i've been told:
Scotland shut down 2 days ago. No sales or purchases can be made in Scotland. They have closed the land register. Law Society has instructed all solicitors they cannot conveyance anything until further notice...
England hasn't gone that far yet but they are saying any day I am hearing. So good luck...
They are trying to put a digital system in place but the speed they go at will be months away no doubt
Seems to be backed up by statement here:
https://www.ros.gov.uk/coronavirus-covid-19/update...
There seems to be an "emergency" system in place for those that need to complete, but I don't fully understand what it means.
However, we are moving into a new build and I haven't been able to get a hold of the developer for 3 days now. There are a number of questions arising such as how I physically collect the keys, how will snagging work given I can't move in now (removal services cancelled as are flooring company).
I have also been told that apparently the land registry in Scotland has closed to new entries. This is what i've been told:
Scotland shut down 2 days ago. No sales or purchases can be made in Scotland. They have closed the land register. Law Society has instructed all solicitors they cannot conveyance anything until further notice...
England hasn't gone that far yet but they are saying any day I am hearing. So good luck...
They are trying to put a digital system in place but the speed they go at will be months away no doubt
Seems to be backed up by statement here:
https://www.ros.gov.uk/coronavirus-covid-19/update...
There seems to be an "emergency" system in place for those that need to complete, but I don't fully understand what it means.
Worth noting that the government has just updated their list of 'permitted reasons for leaving home' to include moving house:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/regul...
I would imagine that where exchange is yet to take place then there will be more incentive to delay completion - but where exchange had taken place previously, completion is a legal requirement - so there is a double acceptance of it...
and it is possible to minimise risk - as long as risk is lower than e.g. going to the supermarket (who last held that basket / pushed that trolley / picked that item off the shelf / etc.) then it should be fine...
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/regul...
GOV said:
Restrictions on movement
6.—(1) During the emergency period, no person may leave the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.
(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1), a reasonable excuse includes the need—
...
(h)to fulfil a legal obligation, including attending court or satisfying bail conditions, or to participate in legal proceedings;
...
(l)to move house where reasonably necessary;
so the basis of 'where reasonably necessary' - a recognition that for some it is necessary...6.—(1) During the emergency period, no person may leave the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.
(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1), a reasonable excuse includes the need—
...
(h)to fulfil a legal obligation, including attending court or satisfying bail conditions, or to participate in legal proceedings;
...
(l)to move house where reasonably necessary;
I would imagine that where exchange is yet to take place then there will be more incentive to delay completion - but where exchange had taken place previously, completion is a legal requirement - so there is a double acceptance of it...
and it is possible to minimise risk - as long as risk is lower than e.g. going to the supermarket (who last held that basket / pushed that trolley / picked that item off the shelf / etc.) then it should be fine...
akirk said:
so the basis of 'where reasonably necessary' - a recognition that for some it is necessary...
I would imagine that where exchange is yet to take place then there will be more incentive to delay completion - but where exchange had taken place previously, completion is a legal requirement - so there is a double acceptance of it...
and it is possible to minimise risk - as long as risk is lower than e.g. going to the supermarket (who last held that basket / pushed that trolley / picked that item off the shelf / etc.) then it should be fine...
Thanks for the heads up.I would imagine that where exchange is yet to take place then there will be more incentive to delay completion - but where exchange had taken place previously, completion is a legal requirement - so there is a double acceptance of it...
and it is possible to minimise risk - as long as risk is lower than e.g. going to the supermarket (who last held that basket / pushed that trolley / picked that item off the shelf / etc.) then it should be fine...
akirk said:
so the basis of 'where reasonably necessary' - a recognition that for some it is necessary...
I would imagine that where exchange is yet to take place then there will be more incentive to delay completion - but where exchange had taken place previously, completion is a legal requirement - so there is a double acceptance of it...
and it is possible to minimise risk - as long as risk is lower than e.g. going to the supermarket (who last held that basket / pushed that trolley / picked that item off the shelf / etc.) then it should be fine...
Thank you for that - very interesting and something we might exercise down the line.I would imagine that where exchange is yet to take place then there will be more incentive to delay completion - but where exchange had taken place previously, completion is a legal requirement - so there is a double acceptance of it...
and it is possible to minimise risk - as long as risk is lower than e.g. going to the supermarket (who last held that basket / pushed that trolley / picked that item off the shelf / etc.) then it should be fine...
akirk said:
Worth noting that the government has just updated their list of 'permitted reasons for leaving home' to include moving house:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/regul...
I would imagine that where exchange is yet to take place then there will be more incentive to delay completion - but where exchange had taken place previously, completion is a legal requirement - so there is a double acceptance of it...
and it is possible to minimise risk - as long as risk is lower than e.g. going to the supermarket (who last held that basket / pushed that trolley / picked that item off the shelf / etc.) then it should be fine...
I assume that means removal businesses or rental firms offering vans should also be open to facilitate moving? Kinda makes you wonder where to draw they draw the line?https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/regul...
GOV said:
Restrictions on movement
6.—(1) During the emergency period, no person may leave the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.
(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1), a reasonable excuse includes the need—
...
(h)to fulfil a legal obligation, including attending court or satisfying bail conditions, or to participate in legal proceedings;
...
(l)to move house where reasonably necessary;
so the basis of 'where reasonably necessary' - a recognition that for some it is necessary...6.—(1) During the emergency period, no person may leave the place where they are living without reasonable excuse.
(2) For the purposes of paragraph (1), a reasonable excuse includes the need—
...
(h)to fulfil a legal obligation, including attending court or satisfying bail conditions, or to participate in legal proceedings;
...
(l)to move house where reasonably necessary;
I would imagine that where exchange is yet to take place then there will be more incentive to delay completion - but where exchange had taken place previously, completion is a legal requirement - so there is a double acceptance of it...
and it is possible to minimise risk - as long as risk is lower than e.g. going to the supermarket (who last held that basket / pushed that trolley / picked that item off the shelf / etc.) then it should be fine...
My issue is that I had a flooring company to do the house at the start of April and they've been closed temporarily. Haven't paid them anything yet, but all the materials had been ordered. Without this, can't really move in with a 2 month old.
Glad that it’s not forbidden to move. I’ve started my move today, doing it on my own which has been tricky but from a virus spreading perspective it’s been very safe compared to going to the supermarket. Not been within 2m of anyone apart from my son and ex who I see on a daily basis.
Solicitor said that they have another three clients moving tomorrow but then it’s quiet. The house I’m moving into has been empty for a couple of months so no worries there. I’ll disinfect my old house before I leave and hopefully it will be as low risk a move as possible. As for whether prices drop...!
Solicitor said that they have another three clients moving tomorrow but then it’s quiet. The house I’m moving into has been empty for a couple of months so no worries there. I’ll disinfect my old house before I leave and hopefully it will be as low risk a move as possible. As for whether prices drop...!
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